If your unfamiliar with this power armor model, here is the head of the power armor

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/fallout/images/5/5e/X-01_Mk.II_Power_Armor.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150616215806

Now, to the point. in the customization game play, we were presented with a new model of power armor, X-01 MK ll power armor. According to fan speculation, this is enclave armor, unfortunately this is the only piece of evidence that the enclave are in Boston. There are tons of lore friendly suggestions saying that armor has been taken up north by a trader or something. but that helmet is strong proof that enclave are very much alive.

Im sorry i have to put this in to 2 parts, i dont have much time right now, i will explain the theory next title but for now i can only explain the boring part

part 2

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1528814-x-01-mk-ll-power-armor-theory-part-2/

Well considering I have recently uncovered possible evidence of three separate BoS chapters being included, I don't think it would be outside the realm of possibility to also see the Enclave making a surprise appearance

EDIT: before the Great War, the Enclave were actually the Shadow Government, and I believe that they were connected to the founding of the Institute. From this perspective, it would actually make sense if some of them had survived.

You possibly have evidence of three BoS chapters?! Please, go on!

umm where did you figure this out from?

anyway, I'd suspect the institute has connections to the enclave in one way or another. Even the BOS would've probably been part of the enclave if things had gone differently.

The BoS was start by just regular soldiers, who huddled together in a bunker with their families. They have no connection to the Enclave.

i know what they are. What I'm implying is that should the bos had not been put on F.E.V. watch duty and all pretty much said screw the U.S. they would've probably had been standing by for orders like regular soldiers and eventually been pulled into the enclave as another outpost.

I got the strong impression that the Enclave is the remnants of the Secrets Service, not regular army.

It may be considered a long-shot, but it's the first tangible link we have. If you read my OP in http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1528530-revolution-216 thread, but make sure you read the part after about Fallout Shelter!

no they aren't just secret service. From what I understand the main body of the enclave is pretty much all the important politicians, military officers and vault tec, west tek and Poseidon energy personnel . Then you have people like frank horrigan who are secret service(at this point there doesn't seem to be a huge distinction besides being a bodyguard to the president himself), the rest seemed to be based around the military personal. I'm guessing the most royal were assigned to the oil rig. Now from what I understand the military unit that would become the BOS was assigned to guard important personnel of west tek who were preforming research on the F.E.V virus. They found out about the experiments, the senior officer killed himself rather than deal with it, maxson took command executed all west tek personel at Mariposa and then called out on radio that they were seceding form the US. 3 days later everything got Nuked. So what I'm trying to say here is that the scientists at Mariposa were likely part of the enclave so if the B.O.S. had stayed loyal either through ignoring it, or just not caring they would've likely ended up in the enclave. I think it likely that the institute also had connections to the enclave prewar as well since it is likely that some of the more important scientists were working there at the time. Now that's not saying the institute is enclave, but that they have connections and could possibly had some of there tech they were working on. I'd also guess that even if the institute was completely clean they likely would've taken in enclave personnel from D.C. looking for aslyum so long as they could provide their organization with something in exchange.

One more interesting thing to consider is that joining the enclave was not possible in previous games due to our characters not being "clean enough", as in even if we could join we would be killed by the modified F.E.V. which would make joining them silly. The main protagonist of this game would have no such problem as he/she is a survivor of the prewar. I don't think the enclave will be a major faction, but this is one of the few times joining them as a side faction would make sense.=

Part of my own theory is that the Enclave, or at least the shadow government that represented a high percentage of their original numbers, actual started the Institute as a classified research division. The idea is that they ordered the construction of a top-secret facility beneath what was then MIT, which would probably have been funded by none other than Robert House. I even suggested that these scientists, the first members of the Institute, could have been behind the release of Limit 115 (the new plague).

Also, I like your idea about the MC being a viable candidate to join the Enclave due to having zero exposure to the FEV. This is also the reason why I think Shaun was taken out of Vault 111, due to having 'pure' DNA that would be unaffected by either FEV or nuclear fallout (due to going into the vault before any of the fallout had a chance to settle).

Just putting it out there, OP, you could have just posted your second threads contents herein later on if pressed for time.

As for Enclave...well, good good...I need some worthless Nazi wannabes who's only valuable commodity is their armor to slaughter wholesale.

I dunno so much about the enclave having a hand in founding the institute, because that name is slang for MIT, which was founded in the 1800's. But, MIT in our own timeline has always helped advance Gov't tech.
If anything, MIT was a breeding ground for a portion of those who would become enclave and not the other way.
I expect the Institute to be mostly decedents of students and professors who were on campus when the bombs fell, not alumni.

I do suspect that the X-01 armor is, in fact, from the Institute. I was under the impression that the East Coast Enclave no longer had the materials to mass produce that type of armor. The Institute, however, likely would. The only thing I'm trying to figure out is how they got a hold of this armor when it was produced entirely post-war.

Consider you could get enclave armour in NV yet the enclave had no organized presence I don't find this any real proof they are in 4, doesn't prove they aren't either of course so who knows.

I honestly believe the armor is the only reason people would want the Enclave to be there unles there's those among us who want to find them and join in on the genocide and ethnic cleansing.

Have a look at http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1524886-the-institute thread. I don't think the Institute were actually MIT. I think they were a separate classified organisation, using a massive network of labs, built underneath MIT. This would actually explain how they survived the Great War. They would have used MIT as a cover so that they were able to bring highly sensitive 'tech' and materials into the facility without ever raising an eyebrow.

I don't think the X-01 Power Armor is new at all, personally. I think it's just the Advanced Power Armor MK II from Fallout 2 and New Vegas given a proper designation. Advanced Power Armor title was an informal name for the armor, similar to how the T-51b was just Power Armor in FO 1 and 2.

As for the Enclave, I'm sure they'll be present in some capacity - especially since their power armor is in the game. I think it's more of a question as to what the said capacity will be. I'm hoping for something closer to New Vegas.

Well it is refered to as Advanced Powered Combat Armour by Sergeant Dornan I believe. The X is for experimental in US military jargon and considering the mass deployment of the suit by the Enclave I can't see that it's still in the experimental phase. It also lacks Enclave insignia. I think it may be from a pre-war lab or taken from the corpse of an Enclave soldier. Considering, stat wise, it's still stronger than any of the other known power-armours in the game it may have to be assembled piece-meal from collections or the a quest reward. Considering the rather formal designation system that all power armour has I guess that Bethesda probably just wanted one for Advanced Power Armour to fit with the others rather than having: T-45, T-51, T-60 and then Advanced Power Armour. That seems to be the case to me.

I think that the Enclave will make an appearance somewhere in the game if just to give some closure. Hopefully like New Vegas but with some actual spine and less pvssyfooting around/

This but my take is the enclave pre war was like some super Illuminati shadow organization, (with really america first, ideals, MMM heh maybe more Enclave vision for america First Ideals is a better statement) So they indeed in the fallout world, would have puppets in or downright run the institute) * all the real world, sort of counterparts I can think off, are not nearly clandestine enough, a bit distasteful, and certain to start a flame but nearly every place in the world has/ or has had a good example.*

My very first thought when we learned the Sole S was giving a Speech at the Vets Hall to be honest was "Well thats a twist could be we are playing the Enclave (actual pre war to boot) this time out, Might by Sole.s and family were members. (Gkk7z sorta burst my bubble, with a what the speech was about posting , but I forgive him.)

Now on the power armor I really don't know squat (2-caps has a see power armor run motto cause of where he lives go MLA) You guys that can look at at helmet and name the style Amaze me, really. But I bet the institute has all kinds gadgets that will make us all drool,if there enclave friendly or not.

It really isn't. No more than the Remnants armor found on a corpse in New Vegas was. The only thing this is proof of is that their armor still exists.

Personally, I hope the Enclave are gone for good this time, and that we never see them again.

This. I will never understand how people can automatically jump to the conclusion that the armor confirms the Enclave's presence when NV did the exact same thing and the Enclave did not appear at all, save for a few remnants that had all abandoned the faction. The armor appearing in Fallout 4, like NV, is likely an old relict of a dead faction.

There really isn't any valid proof here at all.

I wouldn't mind seeing eye bots again (and I think we've seen them in a few clips) but as the game takes place during or just after the events of FO3 the Enclave should of been rushing men there to combat the EL-BoS+LW so little should be left. Maybe part way through some broken forces could show up but they shouldn't play a key role.

Or as I've suggested before, we can raid some of their old bunkers that just have robots and turrets left, all the personel have died or left the area.

I'm still trying to figure out how it even got to the East Coast. As far as I know, it was exclusively on the West Coast. Or maybe that'll end up as a retcon?

Since the enclave was some kind of shadow government project its not impossible many enclave "cells" where set up before the bombs fell.

Everything on the West Coast was local to the region; including FEV, and bottle cap use. Bethesda has tossed it all, and it's now whatever they wish.
They paid for the assets. Unlike Black Isle, who made them, and could easily discard them and make something else, (the way an artist feels okay with crumpling their own sketches and drawing up new ones).

Bethesda bought this stuff, and is surely loathe to just shelve it. I would expect it all to show up in every title they make for as long as they make them.)

*I do think it's like a secret sauce for them; where they bought the jar of it, but don't have the recipe. Everything in the jar is undeniably Fallouty.
(They will spread it thick on every title they make for the series.)