Power Armour Rules And Restrictions : Fallout: New Vegas

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 7:53 pm

How do you think we should be able to obtain PA. Should it be rare. Should we be able to repair it. should we be able to loot it? What do you think?

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:17 pm

It should be harder than just looting it off a corpse. You should have to be tasked with a big quest to obtain it. I'd prefer they not let you loot it.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:15 am

It should be rare, and we should not be able to repair it, not without the knowledge to do so. PA is supposed to be so complicated BoS scribes spend their whole lives learning how to repair it. Only a small number of really smart people should have the know-how to fix it and it should cost alot. A wasteland junk dealer should not know how or have the tools to fix it.

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:30 pm

I like how they did it in FO3 but replace DR with DT (which is what they are doing and is great) also make it harder to get

of course im probably the only guy who thinks this

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 11:27 pm

I think we should be able to loot it but it be very rare. We shouldnt be able to repair it with out high repair and intelligence.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:27 am

How do you think we should be able to obtain PA. Should it be rare. Should we be able to repair it. What do you think?

No random vendor should be able to repair it besides, BOS or some eggheads with the NCR, (unsure about CL). You can only get their services once full pro reputation has been met with this faction. Also PA should be only on the elite of the elite of factions, and when you do loot it it is fairly damaged.

Also add a perk to learn it. companions can only wear armor after you also have this perk.

Also to keep players from hording the armor early in the game, make it weigh a ton when not worn but when worn it gives great carry weight bonus.

If the damage threshold works like it should, AP ammo should damage the conditon of anything the enemy your firing at is wearing.

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 5:57 pm

People die of what should be non-fatal blows to the head for all kinds of reasons, and sometimes while wearing helmets that should prevent it. No reason to destroy the helmet beyond function. I've never said that we should be getting the stuff at 100% quality. It's the easiest thing in the world for the guys wearing the armor to have full damage reduction and drop a lower-quality item on death.

For once, im actually not disagreeing with you. I dont have a problem with PA dropping under certain circumstance, but under standard circumstance the only way to kill an individual within PA is to get through the PA, and you can pretty much only get through PA by damaging it irrepairably. ~ unless you are extremely lucky.

I like how they did it in FO3 but replace DR with DT (which is what they are doing and is great) also make it harder to get

of course im probably the only guy who thinks this

So, you like it how it was in F3 but you want it to not be like in Fallout 3? You might have to elaborate a little bit on that

Harder to get? as in you cant buy it anywhere? No one gives it to you for free? You cant loot it off every other body in the wasteland?

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:21 am

They should give it to the Elite of a certain faction, so it would be not only hard to find but also suicidal trying to obtain it at the begining of the game, It should only be able to be repaired by a select few and then it should cost materials/lots of money to fix. I don't care if its lootable as long as its hard to come by. I'm kind of partial to only certain companions haveing the ability and knowhow to wear PA.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:20 am

It should be harder than just looting it off a corpse. You should have to be tasked with a big quest to obtain it. I'd prefer they not let you loot it.

We better be able to loot it. What do you expect if you eliminate someone wearing it of course they will let you loot it.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 6:39 am

Add a perk to learn it. companions can only wear armor after you also have this perk.

I like this idea but i think you should have to tak it twice for compnions to use it.

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:42 pm

I wouldnt mind it being sold by vendors. The Shi sold it in decent quantities, But It would be unusual if they had almost 500000000 like they did in F3. I like how F3 added the restriction to training being required. I think To repair it to 100%, it should have a manual, Im not sure if you guys recall, but I remember the Shi having Power Armor Repair Manuals.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:17 am

I like this idea but i think you should have to tak it twice for compnions to use it.

Some companions may know how to use PA already.

I think a better method for getting companions to be PA trained would be to take them somewhere to actually get training, at a large expense of course

~Unless your characters stats made them a capable teacher.

Irreparable has no meaning in a game where you can loot bodies. That is not going away. You all need to accept this and shut the hell up about a fantasy of power armor being ruined beyond use because a hole has been punched in it that magically fried all of its circuits, destroyed all of its servo motors, made the fusion engine on the back explode and take out all intelligent life within a 2 mile radius, caused the physical structure of the armor to crumble into dust when you tried to take it off the body, and does not exist at all except being worn by invincible supermen who will utterly annihilate you if you even look at them funny.

Awh, there you go again. Throwing any indication of being reasonable back out of the window. Im actually just trying to have a discussion about it, just a nice conversation to pass the time. If you're not capable of that then maybe you are the one who needs to "shut the hell up".
How is it back under there by the way?

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:40 pm

I do agree it should be rare. I would love to have unique types like the t51b in F3. I think you can loot it off a corpse only bcs it is rare to find. A perk would be nice or you could receive training in the NCR or BOS. I also think you should be able to repair it with other PAs of the same model or with a high repair skill. I also think there should be parts you can find out in the wasteland that you can use to repair the PA.

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:58 pm

We better be able to loot it. What do you expect if you eliminate someone wearing it of course they will let you loot it.

Because people could just turn on very easy to get it.

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:55 pm

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The Shi did sell it yes but it costs an insain amount of money, even with high barter it would cost many thousands.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 7:54 am

I like this idea but i think you should have to tak it twice for compnions to use it.

Oh I meant how they did it in FO3 where you just learn the perk from part of the quest line.
But my thinking is that once you got down the training required to wear it , you would be able to teach them how it works. If i remember correctly you could only tag level perks and not quest perks because they were just given to you after the quest.

Also think that only certain companions can wear it is a good idea.

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 6:19 pm

Because people could just turn on very easy to get it.

That's there choice. If we eliminate someone wearing power armor of course it can be looted. Do you want it to disappear or something? And wow these power armor threads blow up quick this is like the third one I've seen today and the other two are already at page 5!

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:35 am

So, you like it how it was in F3 but you want it to not be like in Fallout 3? You might have to elaborate a little bit on that

Harder to get? as in you cant buy it anywhere? No one gives it to you for free? You cant loot it off every other body in the wasteland?

um let me see if i can.
I think the BoS should and/or very high ranking members of factions should be the only ones to have it
i thought not being able to use it until you had training was a good idea
i should be able to repair normally if i have another piece of PA
i should be able to loot it (no matter what)
if you want to pay someone to repair it instead, only BoS members or very experienced mechanics can do so
the high DT rating of course along with some DR
...i think that about sums it up

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:27 pm

We better be able to loot it. What do you expect if you eliminate someone wearing it of course they will let you loot it.

i expect it to be blown to hell.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 12:34 am

um let me see if i can.
I think the BoS should and/or very high ranking members of factions should be the only ones to have it
i thought not being able to use it until you had training was a good idea
i should be able to repair normally if i have another piece of PA
i should be able to loot it (no matter what)
if you want to pay someone to repair it instead, only BoS members or very experienced mechanics can do so
the high DT rating of course along with some DR
...i think that about sums it up

I like it.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 4:03 am

The Shi did sell it yes but it costs an insain amount of money, even with high barter it would cost many thousands.

Which is logical. Unless your completely batcrap insane or very generous, I cant see someone selling it for 500 bucks xD.

Withh my usual barter skill being 70 or so, it costs like...10k

@dogmeat- and if thats what they want to do, it's their right, It wont inhibit you in the least if they did it.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 5:17 am

Do you want it to disappear or something?

Not disappear, simply make it the only armor you can not loot.

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:57 am

It should be lootable, it shouldn't need training, repairing it should require 100 repair skill+8 intelligence.

To get it at a level lower than 10 would simply be suicide, under 20 it should be extremely difficult, at 30, it should still require a lot of time, patience, and some difficulty.

» Tue Oct 26, 2010 10:52 pm

Not disappear, simply make it the only armor you can not loot.

Or you find "Power Armour Parts" instead of a full suit, which you can then sell to interested parties, and eventually even have made into a full working suit

» Wed Oct 27, 2010 11:02 am

Not disappear, simply make it the only armor you can not loot.

Immersion breaker ftl.