Wooooaahhh read my other post alright? Geez :shakehead:

Hmm, i suppose so, but maybe they have started from the ground up on a simple kind of power armor, after examing captured Brotherhood suits, or maybe even Enclave power armor. I mean the Enclave had a way of making Power Armor, and the NCR coul've copied/caputered the things that make it?

yeah sorry man I edited it out. My Bad.

theyre called jimmy hats in the future

I dont think it is either, he probably just used the nme to strike fear into his enemies, (but i dont think many people would no who he is on about, since education doesnt really exist to some degree), but i dont know if his 'legion' were Roman Empired oriented from the start, or if they adopted the style over time

I doubt the BoS can put up a decent fight against me....



But didn't the Enclave have their own versions of Power Armor in Fallout 3, contrary to your statement?

Even if they try to copy it they don't have the right resources to make an exact copy of it.
At most they could very probably create a replica, but it wouldn't be able to use that fusion stuff it has and... To simplify: real power armor gives + in strength, a replica would give - in strength.

So sure, they could copy it, but it would be far inferior to the real deal.

Greatest Alive
Yes, they did, but we have no idea how big the Enclave really is/were. We have no idea how many bunkers of just different materials they have. But I believe they don't know how to produce more materials, so once they've looted all their structures they'd be empty handed.
Oh and Enclave were part of united states government, I'm sure they had the blueprints for power armor.

Yeah, the fusion packs on the Power Armor like T-45d and T-51b last for hundreds of years, but if the NCR had their own version, maybe the batteries have to be replaced after a say month of continuous usage.

first of all, all the stuff we get from asia and south america and the middle east, is here in the USA we just dont bother to use them, so anyone with drills presses and schemetics could definatly make whatever they wanted.... just not with wood....

Well I sure hope that none of us will stand a chance againts them at the beginning because that would prove, once again, that power armour aint powerful.

What are you basing that on? By the time this game takes place, CALIFORNIA IS NO LONGER A WASTELAND. They've got access to every kind of pre-war technology imaginable, lots of educated people with experience using it, and the facilities to make all of it

what i didnt get was the hit to agility with power armour, its sposed to feel like an extension of your body but it slowed you down fallout3, they didnt give hits to agility in the old fallouts

Maybe. We'll have to wait and see how far NCR is in their scientific department in New Vegas, as it stands we can only speculate on how advanced they were in fallout 2.

Mugglelover
Got any proof that they have a crapload of different factories?
That they got and I quote "They've got access to every kind of pre-war technology imaginable" ?

As I said, I speculate on what I know from what they were in fallout 2.
They might have advanced A LOT further by the time of New Vegas, but we don't know how far until New Vegas is released.

To what degree that is true remains to be seen. It's certainly not the same as it was in Fallout 1, but unless you can back that statement up it's speculation.

Edit: Bother, I didn't read Gabriel's post before I posted.

i think they tried to give you the idea that it might restrict your movement in some way
or the hydralics were'nt maintained and now you have to use more muscle.............maybe to give an idea that the batteries in the suits are starting to die

just a guess though

lol power armor made out of nothing but wood

Maybe the Dev's in Fallout 3 figured it isn't exactly easy to move freely while wearing a large powered suit with metal plates everywhere, even if it does make you stronger, it does somewhat restrict movement.

Everything in the first two games was in territory they've seized by this time, including the brotherhood facilities, vault city, all Enclave positions, 13 vaults with detailed files on every pre-war thing imaginable and whatever industry existed on the west coast at all.

Not everything was seized.
We don't know if they've seized any valuable brotherhood facilities.
We don't know if they made Vault City join them.
We don't know if any Enclave remnants joined them.
We don't know if they got a hold of more than Vault 15.
We don't know wether or not they decided to make every industrial building functional again, many of them may very well stand there as skeletons of the past.
Until New Vegas comes out we don't know how much of the Core Area they took over.

Possible endings for Fallout 2 make everything I've said possible. All you have is staunch, unreasonable, opposition.

They certainly had a hard time finding vaults. Aradesh and Seth searched for Vault 13 for years and years. Tandi thought the vault dweller made it up.

Keyword is possible.

I kind of agree with both of you.

I think it all could logically have taken place as Mugglelover said...

But being at war with the BoS they likely didn't manage to capture most of their facilities or if they did they'd already been stripped clean.
Vault City wasn't all that impressive really.
The only known Enclave position was Navarro and they wouldn't have just given up, much as with the BoS they would strip their facilities clean and try to make off with the tech...and what was taken would only be taken after being all shot up.
I don't know why you say 13 vaults...but even if they did take them over it's not really evidenced in the series that they'd have "detailed files on every prewar thing imaginable."
There didn't seem to be all that much industry on the West Coast, and what industry there was would require raw materials.

Every major faction could have PA, just depends on the numbers they have. BoS have PA because they make it their mission to find it. NCR because they would raid and loot BoS bunkers when at war. Bases like they had in the Den. Ceaser's Legion is the unknown. Fallout has not been to Arizona, who knows what military weapons cache they could have come across. It would svck if every major faction had large numbers of PA wearing soldiers but they could have elite memebers like others have already said.

I'm hoping for a minimal amount of PA.

If the higher ups in NCR and CL both have PA along with the BoS...that's adding up to a good deal of PA....of course that doesn't mean they wont all have PA...I just sure hope they don't.

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I think we should not be able to loot armor of dead bodies.
Only find it or buy it.