For those that haven't seen the bonuses - http://bethblog.com/index.php/2010/08/17/brink-pre-order-bonuses-announced/

While there are lots of cool choices for customization, The real question I had was deciding between the Caesar Revolver, and the Hockler Machine Pistol.

The Caesar looks to have a cylinder with 6 chambers, which would be typical. It also seems to have a really large caliber barrel. It also appears to just be modeled really thick and chunky, which makes me assume it is going to be a big, powerful sidearm, but possibly slow and definately lots of kick. The addition of exclusive silencers which are most likely available for use on all weapons, makes this an easy one to choose. Having a big silenced revolver should immediately appeal to Operatives. If this weapon is strong enough to take out an opponent with under 6 shots, it would be a very quick and stealthy way to take out opponents for light body type players.

Next up is the Hockler. This is clearly based off of the real world "Heckler and Koch Machine Pistol 7" more commonly known as simply the MP7. In real life, the MP7 is a modern sub-machine gun (its actually classified as a "personal defense weapon" which you could think of as a sub-sub-machine gun). It is designed for maximum portability and penetration foremost, with a very fast rate of fire. It is a very powerful weapon despite its size that can put holes through body armor, bulletproof windows, and even light plating. In games though, it tends to get the short end of the stick; often made into weak weapon with only its fire rate and lack of recoil to fall back on. The fact that it is actually spelled out "Machine pistol", as well as the fact that the Caesar is a sidearm, makes me curious if this will be in the game as a light weapon or a sidearm. It is a similar size to the revolver, and looks to be smaller than the Kross SMG in all of the clips, and Horse's compilation says that there are automatic pistols, so i am actually leaning towards the Hockler as a sidearm. The Greeneye Sight also comes with this bonus, which might be an interesting change of pace, but will most likely be fairly unremarkable when compared to all of the other scopes in the game.

Personally, the choice between the two weapons was a difficult one, so I ended up making the choice based on looks, and I really am not a fan of the psycho hood or tattoo. Besides, I plan on playing Security anyway. Depending on the strength of the Caesar though, it could very easily be the better choice.

As far as my opinions on the other two, purely cosmetic, bonuses - I'm not a fan. While I am a big follower of the Fallout franchise, I don't think the style meshes very well with Brink. The fallout art just won't look right when placed in a serious setting. The doom pack is just as unappealing to me. At first, I thought that security was able to wear UAC armor which would have been really cool, but upon closer inspection i realized they only get a t-shirt that is printed to look like UAC armor. Either way, a bunch of t-shirts and beanies don't compare to the prospect of new weapons.

That was the choice I had to make too. I don't care overly much about the clothes, but the guns look rather nice. I ended up going for the Spec-Ops pack, despite my love for revolvers, because 1. It's much easier for me to preorder through Wal*Mart than Amazon, and 2. I'd rather have a neat scope than a neat silencer. And I don't exactly hate that machine pistol either. :wink_smile:

Well, if it comes out as a paid DLC later, I'm pretty sure that I will go ahead and pay for the revolver if I hear its good. But then again, I'm not sure if I want them to be DLCs, because then my weapon and tattoo wouldn't be as rare

Since when does silenced, powerful revolver mean that it's most appealing to a light operative?

Because an operative is ideally a sneaky player who goes behind enemy lines to backstab people. If someone located you, the ability to quickly and silently kill that person before you attract more enemies would be quite nice. And Light body players are restricted to one light weapon and one pistol, where bigger body types are able to have a bigger secondary weapon.

I couldn't pre-order from Direct2Drive OR walmart, even though they're pre-order pack is the one I wanted, because I'm in Ireland. I had to pre-order from Steam instead. :cryvaultboy:

i`m going to wait with pre-ordering, first i want to see the EU pre-order packs they said they will release soon.

the pre-order guns are just cosmetic differences, no rof or damage change from existing ingame weapons, essentially a skin

i don't think they are just cosmetic...

If they were just skins, why wouldn't they be listed as skins, like the SMG skins in the DOOM and Fallout packs?

@ xShadowcat

No. You see, a silenced revolver would be useful for anybody who doesn't want to be found, not just operatives. And it doesn't mean that just a light bodytype would considering using this weapon. Just because you can you can use bigger weapons doesn't mean you will opt for them. The point is that you can't just say "this is a light operative weapon" because some people may want it and some people may not, regardless of their class or bodytype.

Just for fun, I thought I'd show you guys the real-life inspirations for the two.

The Caesar looks like a stumpy http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/MP-412_REX.
The Hockler is a near copy of a http://www.imfdb.org/index.php/Heckler_%26_Koch_MP7.

I never said that it would be limited to light operatives, I said that it is bluntly obvious that it would be useful for them. Without playing the game, you cant say that a heavy operative with a Gatling wouldn't be useful, but its not an intuitive combination. Similarly, a light operative with a silent powerful pistol was just my first impression.



Good eye on the revolver, I wasn't sure what to compare it to in real life

And this is exactly what I will be doing. I'll wait till the very last moment till I pre-order. I've seem other games in the past post up pre-order special with only a week till release to get more people to order.
This of course ticked off everybody that had already ordered. The company just collected more cash if somebody wanted more. You can always try to cancel a pre-order though.

But I'll just save myself the heart ache and wait.

And the way in-game stores are now adays, these items will most likely be had for a price soon enough to everybody.

Just my .02.

~Ironback

Ha, in Australia the only pack is the Doom one, for at least $80. I'm getting Spec-Ops over Steam for sure.

Will defo pre-order this. but as hellracer said, im waiting to see what the eu/uk gets and what store as what before i do

so very clever of going with HOCKLER when the real gun is made by HeCKLER and kOch, lol anyway im going with the gamestop one because i always do gamestop, but i like the others better
(gamestop is right near my house, so its the easiest) hoping these become DLC later

definately getting the walmart pack, not for everything in it, mostly for the sight\scope in the pack, but maybe the gun is good too?

I'm torn between spec ops and psycho. Someone talk me into one of them!

Well, the poll to end all polls says that there are a lot more people getting spec-ops instead of psycho. So if you care about having the rarer of the two a year down the road, psycho would be the better choice. But really it just comes down to preference. Do you want the resistance mask or the security mask? silencers or scopes? High power, low fire rate or high fire rate, low power?

as I said in the start of the thread, I personally would prefer the revolver and silencer, but wouldn't be caught dead in the psycho mask. The MP7 will probably be just as good and I actually like the spec ops mask.

I hope they dont turn this into a TF2 store system, where u need to buy certain games and stuff to have those specific hats or stuff, hope they make all stuff including tattoos and stuff from doom and fall out and etc all avaible with xp points or whatever.

not this discussion again... i'm getting flamed each time because i say:
if the pre-orders are to be discerned from the mass years after release, like SD intended, then it would not work if those things are unlockable.

and yes that means it won't be for sale afterwards except perhaps on ebay or the like. wich i wouldn't trust.

Anyone know the UK/EU pre-order content?

I, recently, had a thought on the subject of pre-orders. When the pre-order bonuses for Brink say 'exclusive' do they really mean exclusive? The question popped into my head while thinking about other pre-order bonuses for some of the other games I play, where the developers unlocked and or sold the pre-orders at a later date. If the pre-order bonuses are just going to be released some time after the game is, then I wouldn't have much desire in them.

Yea, I was curious about that too, and I'd be interested in it happening either way. Either i get a cool excusive gun that i can show off a year or more down the road, or I will be able to get that Caesar Revolver later on, in addition to the MP7 from Spec Ops.