I'm just glad that Bethesda is not a slave to it's fanbase. It'll take ideas and suggestions, look at how certain mods do things and what makes them so popular. However it won't refuse to evolve a franchise and try new things because a hardcoe puritan fanbase will send death threats to the developer, as happend with HoMM.

Which just results in a stale franchise that feels dated and hardly, if at all, innovates. Once given in there are no new players and the only one's who keep buying your product are the people who claim they won't if you change. So just crank out the exact same thing.

That there are people who hate change in "their" beloved franchise is just innevitable. It is this weird duality where people say they want new and innovative games, but at the same time don't buy them and hate on franchises that do try a new approach.

The general consensus I've seen is that people loved medieval 2.

I can't understand why. The only thing I really appreciate is the fact that you can recruit more than one unit a turn. Rome 1 made you get units one by one, meaning building an army without 7 settlements took forever.

And I had no idea that existed with HoMM, but it doesn't surprise me; an older, niche game and fanatic fans go hand in hand. Kinda like FO1/2 and the hilarity that goes on at NMA.

Those are the same type of people who mail boxes of crowbars to valve.

ow yah it was disgusting, or so i heard. They planned on adding a new race to HoMM that was more technologically driven and apparently the devs got death threats. They pulled that race.

People trying to complain about people complaining by generalizing them.

Uh...

Sure, though if NMA was so ban-happy then any time someone comes in to defend Bethesda or whatever then they'd get banned. But they aren't. :/ And that's what that guy is making NMA sound like, to which I object. Most people here that are banned aren't because they oppose Bethesda, they're banned because they don't adhere to the rules and mess up too much. Only time I've seen NMA ban anything is when someone just trolls repeatedly (and using l33t-5p3ak while doing it) and bots. They don't ban because of a really strict rule-set.

So painting NMA as ban-happy is just flat out misinformation.

Even if we stabilized the ratio of users between the two NMA would be banning less.

I've seen Beth fans come in and start up arguments and they ain't banned. They just leave because they pretty much get dogpiled. That's why I want what that guy said about invading NMA to happen. At least then the number of people on either side will be more balanced and maybe we could have more fruitful discussions.

As much as I dislike the NMA forums, I respect that they reside within their own community - and some of the members are very tempered. I very much enjoyed Brother None's review of Lonesome road.

/r/Fallout is more toxic than NMA.

Never happens to me, the closer the release date, the more impatient i feel.