Pre war Fallout anyone?

Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:27 am

I was thinking they need to make a falllout that take place before,during and after the great war it could be a whole game or maybe a add on like operation achronage. Am i the only one who thinks that would be a good idea???
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Alessandra Botham
 
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 11:25 pm

I was thinking they need to make a falllout that take place before,during and after the great war it could be a whole game or maybe a add on like operation achronage. Am i the only one who thinks that would be a good idea???


Any game before the war would not be Fallout. During the Sino-American War (2066-2077) would not be fallout. I don't want it not because "It's not fallout" but because I don't want to know the details that lead up to the great war of October 23,2077 "The details are trivial and pointless, the reasons, as always, purely human ones." Any game taking place before the great war would fill in those details and I don't want that.

The Great war lasted Two hours so it would not be much of a game. After the great war is what the fallout games are. Now a fallout game talking place a few years after would be good, like the founding of the BoS. I just don't see that happening.

Operation Anchorage was just a simulation and any info in it can't be trusted 100% and having simulation after simulation in fallout would get old fast.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:49 am

I think that Fallout is more mysterious and spooky ("It was a spoooky ghost!") when you don't know a lot about Pre-War America.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:57 am

It wouldn't be "Fallout" if it took place before the nukes and second it would just be like 1950's GTA.
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Any game before the war would not be Fallout. During the Sino-American War (2066-2077) would not be fallout. I don't want it not because "It's not fallout" but because I don't want to know the details that lead up to the great war of October 23,2077 "The details are trivial and pointless, the reasons, as always, purely human ones." Any game taking place before the great war would fill in those details and I don't want that.

The Great war lasted Two hours so it would not be much of a game. After the great war is what the fallout games are. Now a fallout game talking place a few years after would be good, like the founding of the BoS. I just don't see that happening.

Operation Anchorage was just a simulation and any info in it can't be trusted 100% and having simulation after simulation in fallout would get old fast.



I agree Completely. I meen if it was before the Great war it would be like a Call Of duty. it wouldnt be the Survival/Spooky Game that Fallout is. But Finding out how the Bos Got Started would be pretty Cool. And Also if it was Pre-War Why would it be Called fallout? haha..Any ways. that is what i think.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:05 am

You all are right that wouldnt be fallout but i just thought it would be fun to see the pre war world and trying to survive the great war and to see how everything got started in the wastes.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:01 am

You all are right that wouldnt be fallout but i just thought it would be fun to see the pre war world and trying to survive the great war and to see how everything got started in the wastes.


Any game set in pre-Great War setting would just be a military shooter with a some sci-fi elements, also you really don't want a game set during the Great War, it only lasted 2 hours and featured no combat only nuclear strikes. Now immediately after the Great War might be interesting, depending on where its set and how the story is told.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 7:37 pm

It wouldn't be "Fallout" if it took place before the nukes and second it would just be like 1950's GTA.


I would have to agree there.

Fallout is a post apocalyptic role-playing game. In other words, it's an RPG in a post apocalyptic setting, while obviously, there's quite a bit more background to the Fallout setting than "It's the future and there was a nuclear war." the post apocalyptic setting is one of the defining traits that makes Fallout what it is. A game set before the war would lack what makes Fallout, well, Fallout. I would not want such a game because it fails to capture the most basic thing that defines Fallout as what it is. A prewar Fallout would be kind of like making a Star Wars movie without a war in it.

Now, I did not object so much to how Operation Anchorage handled it, while as far as design and gameplay goes, that particular DLC may not have been what I would consider an ideal addon for Fallout 3 because it lacked the free roaming and role-playing aspects and instead tried to be a military shooter in a game that really doesn't do as good a job at being a first person shooter as a pure FPS should (Note that this is not meant as a criticism, combat is not the only thing Fallout offers, so it doesn't necessarily need to be as well designed as in a game where it's the main focus for the game to hold up.) it did give us a look at an aspect of Fallout's prewar America through a relatively short simulation, rather than giving us a full game in a prewar setting. In this case, the rest of the game was still post apocalyptic, we just got to see a bit of the prewar world in the duration of the quest, that was sort of alright I guess, mostly though, Fallout games should focus on the world after the war, it's not like details like who launched the nukes first or why matters when everyone has been hit just as bad anyway, so we don't need to know every single detail of the war.

As for a game set during the war, as has been said, I don't think a two hour long nuclear war would offer many interesting oportunities for an RPG.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:12 am

I've always wanted to make a Pre-War sim Mod in Fallout 3 (IE 'The American Life')

But I think the mystery of what was 'Paradise' and how it seems like heaven apart from the war scare. But in the end, I think its best the Pre-War days are left to the individual players perception of what the world was like.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:44 am

yall are all right but to clarify things i was thinking this to be all one add on really like a simulation but that wouldnt really be fallout.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:33 pm

yall are all right but to clarify things i was thinking this to be all one add on really like a simulation but that wouldnt really be fallout.

Not at all man, I've extentively thought about how to make a Tranquility Lane style oasis. But it'd be a straight lined street. A downtownish style district and such.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:36 am

Actually, this would make an interesting DLC.

Imagine, if you will, if the DLC for New Vegas can be played independantly of the main game (though still accessed from the same title screen), like "The Ballad of Gay Tony" for Grand Theft Auto 4, or "Leilana's Song" for Dragon Age: Origins.
One such title could have you playing as a ghoul, who while sitting around a campfire with other travelers way out in the wasteland somewhere, recounts the hours leading up to the Great War. Or, perhaps you encounter him in the main New Vegas game, in a quest like Tranquility Lane or Operation: Anchorage and you simply play through the flashback.

Playing as a ghoul would probably be tackled the same way as playing as a child in Tranquility Lane or the Lone Wanderer's early years in Vault 101, and could have a plot similar to the Van Buren tech demo, where the bombs are falling, and you make a mad rush to get to your Vault, fighting Communist Insurgents along the way. And perhaps, for whatever reason, you don't get to the Vault in time, and are forced to find shelter as your skin and hair starts falling off and your voice becomes suddenly raspy.
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:13 pm

Actually, this would make an interesting DLC.

Imagine, if you will, if the DLC for New Vegas can be played independantly of the main game (though still accessed from the same title screen), like "The Ballad of Gay Tony" for Grand Theft Auto 4, or "Leilana's Song" for Dragon Age: Origins.
One such title could have you playing as a ghoul, who while sitting around a campfire with other travelers way out in the wasteland somewhere, recounts the hours leading up to the Great War. Or, perhaps you encounter him in the main New Vegas game, in a quest like Tranquility Lane or Operation: Anchorage and you simply play through the flashback.

Playing as a ghoul would probably be tackled the same way as playing as a child in Tranquility Lane or the Lone Wanderer's early years in Vault 101, and could have a plot similar to the Van Buren tech demo, where the bombs are falling, and you make a mad rush to get to your Vault, fighting Communist Insurgents along the way. And perhaps, for whatever reason, you don't get to the Vault in time, and are forced to find shelter as your skin and hair starts falling off and your voice becomes suddenly raspy.



Ya something like that it would be fun trying to survive the war having to find shelter will everything gets destroyed.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:02 am

Beth should make Fallout movies. The first should be before the war. A-lot is missing from the Fallout storyline.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:03 am

I wouldn't mind seeing a Fallout game taking place in China. American troops were landing there when the bombs fell. I would like to maybe see a platoon of soldiers who survived the chaos, cut off from the world, started their own society that is still lasting, and you play a decedent from them.

They say the war is over, but its not over until the American Flag is flying high above the ruins of Beijing!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:33 am

I was thinking they need to make a falllout that take place before,during and after the great war it could be a whole game or maybe a add on like operation achronage. Am i the only one who thinks that would be a good idea???



After? Yes.

Before? No.

It would be cool to experience things right after the bombs fell, not what led up to them being dropped.

Nuclear disaster = Fallout
Politics = A boring sim
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 8:12 pm

Beth should make Fallout movies. The first should be before the war. A-lot is missing from the Fallout storyline.



Ive always wanted to see a fallout movie that would be epic!!!
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:59 am

Definitely some sort of game that builds on the original fallout would be great. But then again, instead of thinking of ways to build on the past, just think of the world to come in the fallout future. I can't friggin wait...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:52 am

i wouldn't mind a intro level where you play as a per-war guy/girl , learn the controls and how to use vats then the bombs go of and you rush to a shelter it then skips x amount of years where you would play as the son or grandson of the per-war person in the year xxxx
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:09 am

1950's GTA.


Not a big fan of the GTA series, but why does that sound like so much fun?

Anyway, I don't think a pre-war Fallout game would work. They devs wouldn't really be able to do much unless they completely took out the RPG aspect and made it a FPS through the eyes of a soldier during one of those smaller wars. But then it just wouldn't be Fallout.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:11 am

Not a big fan of the GTA series, but why does that sound like so much fun?

Anyway, I don't think a pre-war Fallout game would work. They devs wouldn't really be able to do much unless they completely took out the RPG aspect and made it a FPS through the eyes of a soldier during one of those smaller wars. But then it just wouldn't be Fallout.


If you think that would be fun, try looking up Mafia 2.

On Topic: Maybe just as the bombs fell, but I don't want the entire game to take place during that.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:34 am

Ive always wanted to see a fallout movie that would be epic!!!

Food for thought. Honestly, with all the ripoffs and sppofs of the last decade who would you trust to do it right?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:59 am

It would be interesting to play from a chinese or russian point of view. "If I remember correctly russia launched their nukes also" I'm sure most coutries that could afford it built vaults of some sort at least for the goverment officials and their families.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:24 am

And ow would the game end? We would get nuked?, or become a ghoul after hiding in an fridge?
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Post » Fri May 27, 2011 10:48 pm

I was thinking they need to make a falllout that take place before,during and after the great war it could be a whole game or maybe a add on like operation achronage. Am i the only one who thinks that would be a good idea???


Well it would no longer be Fallout, instead you would simply have an alternate history game with retro-futuristic themes.
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