Of Princes and Power - OOC Thread #10

Post » Sun May 05, 2013 12:27 pm

It was my misunderstanding. I wasn't aware, until your lorefluff was posted, that Kambria was a vassal of Wayrest until the rebellion.

How about this: Sometime during the Oblivion Crisis, the minor marriage alliance between Camlorn and Kambria took place as the ever-more-desperate Kambria tried to secure help from Camlorn against the Daedra, mostly in getting access to food and weapons. After the Crisis finished, the ruler of Bhoriane was dead, so Count Moorcroft slid in and took over, giving it to his son as his own fief because Marcel had gained the trust and respect of the people of Bhoriane in his skirmishes with the Daedra on the Bhoriane-Kambria border.

Despite the marriage alliance (albeit a fairly weak alliance based on the minor family members involved in the marriage), Kambria was still the vassal of Wayrest, until the Revolt in 4E18 (due to reasons I'll fluff out later in my CS history section and the County synopsis). In the desperate times of the Revolt, Count Moorcroft turned to the weak allaince with Camlorn, something he did not want to do as he knew it would likely mean bending the knee to a new lord, but it was either that or having his county actively taken over by Elysana, whereas he managed to work out a deal with Camlorn that Kambria would be more or less independent except for the regular duties and obligations as a vassal which were kept of medium harshness (if that's cool with you ASAP; sort of works out as Camlorn gains a vassal regardless and weaken Wayrests power hold in the area).

Kambria is saved, Bhoriane starts getting rebuilt by its glorious Baron Marcel, and the County of Kambria (which includes the city of Bhoriane, sorry if this is getting convoluted) is now a vassal of Camlorn, with that earlier minor marriage being the glue for the alliance.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:56 am

That was pretty much the same thing I had in mind. :)

Works for me!

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 11:57 am

Here is my CS, I will read the wiki before posting but since i am typing on a ps3 browser I will probably mess up big time and the CS is a little vague.

That is because I still need to get a feel for the RP.

Name: Anders Agravail

Title: Free Knight

Age: 28

Gender: Male

Race: Breton

Appearance: around 5'11'', athletic build, 175 lbs, unruly dark-brown hair, blue eyes.

Skills: 1-H Blades, Polearms, Shields, Mounted Combat, Medium and Light Armor, Speech, Athletics.

Equipment (Weapons, Armor, Misc.) : Fine Steel Longsword, Light Lance, Steel Shortsword, Light Steel Shield, Travel clothes, Studded Leather Armor, Steel briastplate, Greaves, & Guantlets.

2 horses: 1 for riding and 1 for war. Filled Waterskin, 2 days of travel food, Bedroll, Mess kit, Soap, Razor, Whetstone, Saddles, Feed for horses.

Background: A son to a family of upper-class merchants from Shalgora, Anders always had an interest in military pursuits and his parents saw it as an opportunity for further advancement and wrangled him a position as a squire. His master was a tough but fair teacher and a very moral man. Under his tutelage, Anders gained not only skill at arms, but strong sense of honor & duty.

He was knighted recently, and is still considered untried by other knights. He has traveled to Evermore in hopes of enlisting with a lord who is short on knights as that would make him

a little more likely to be hired.

Character Summary (A brief description of your character) : A skilled but untested knight. His main goal is proving himself worthy of his title and serving his lord honorably.

He is somewhat out of depth when it comes to politics, but he hopes he won't have to worry to much about it. He believes the world is more simple than people think, and

is honest to the core, even truthful evasions make him uneasy. He has a hard time coming to terms with the fact that in political circles, honesty could be a handicap.

His temper has a long fuse, but a powerful kick when he finally snaps, fortunately it takes effort to push him that far.

He is a person with an utter devotion to his honor code, is suprisingly philosophical on honor and the heart of a knight.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:58 pm

Here is something I was writing that is more or less the description of Eagle`s Brook. Please note that it is hugely biased since it was written as propaganda for the new regime.

A short resume of the Barony of Eagle`s Brook under the rule of the Noble House of Gaistimir:

By Court-Wizard Vanus Angelus.

Among the sharp cliffs and small streams of Northern High Rock is a tall tower nestled on the peak of Eagle`s Nest or Chw`athalla as our ancestors used to call it. It is from the stream that runs from the cliff that the tower receives its name of Eagle`s Brook and it has been home to wise Mages and Old Kings over the years. Beneath the watchful eye of the Lord of Eagle`s Brook Keep lies the sleeping village of Fairbrook, that is where your humble author was born and as the latest census tells us home to 2. 132 People mostly of Breton descendance. In the year of 4E25 the bloody conflict between the realms of Shornhelm (Which Eagle`s Brook is part of) and Northpoint came to an end, with the defeat of King now Archduke Allard. In that year a new family came to control of Eagle`s Brook and wrestled it from the hands of the local Mage Lord, these conquerors from Northpoint are called the Gaistimir and are as of the year of 4E27 the rulers of Eagle`s Brook.

The First Gaistimir to rule this land was Baron Acklen The Swift, and that name might be from his speed in combat as well as from his short reign. Previously a part of the armed Nobility he first showed his combat prowess at the First War Shornhelm and Northpoint fought,. At the Second War however was where his military genius was shown when he Single handily cut through the previous Baron of Eagle′s Brook guard and killed him in a deadly duel. For his merit in battle Acklen was granted the Barony of Eagle`s Brook and rose to power under the title of Baron of Eagle`s Brook and all its lands, Lord of Eagle′s Brook Keep, Protector of Eagle`s Vale and sole Mayor of Fairbrook. His rule was however short and consisted of only 5 weeks and 3 days in which he spent mostly organizing his new Barony and crushing any resistance that might be left. Alas the will of the gods took him soon and during a hunt through the fair forests that dot these valleys, it is believed that his illustrious grace heart stopped beating during the hunt. Which is quite unusual for a strong man his age but alas the Gods are unpredictable and sometimes unfair in mortal affairs. Baron Acklen was succeeded by his only son Farlon.

The Second Baron of the Gaistimir dynasty as stated before was Baron of Eagle`s Brook and all its lands, Lord of Eagle`s Brook Keep, Mayor of Fairbrook and protector of Eagle`s Vale. His grace name is Farlon and he is the current ruler of this fair land, in the beginning of his reign his honorable grace destroyed once and for all the resistance to this new and fair rule. He also made certain that his father was buried with all the honors that a lord of this land might receive. His second political act was to create a new knightly order to protect the Barony, it is called "The Knights of the Eagle" and its members are composed mostly of Northpointians liberators and redeemed knights of Shornhelm, in the same time he graciously extended a pardon to any enemy combatants still in captivity in return they had to help with the building of his summer residence, expansion of the palace and public buildings in Eagle`s Brook so they could make up for the community and atone for their past crimes. During this time many peasants started complaining about the disappearance of other citizens and blame it on a sinister Daedric cult. Baron Farlorn ordered his new knights to eradicate this profanity and led the investigations himself, it was in the end discovered that the prisoners he had so gracefully liberated became part of this Daedric cult as revenge for their fair punishments. They were dealt with severely. Some people still complain about disappearances on the hills and the wilds but it is to be believed that it is either wolves or some escapees from justice and our most merciful Baron assures that he and his man are doing all possible to bring these men to justice.

The Baron Farlorn rules the land fairly and graciously and me and all others gone that his reign is long and peaceful. His heir at this year, 4E27, is Acklen Gaistimir in homage to his father and is to assume the barony upon his death.

The times we live are strange indeed but with all assurance the new rulers of Eagle` s Brook shall lead us through it fairly.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 1:41 pm

I do indeed. The Count is currently dancing with Aliele Pierrel, and the Countess is off doing... Countess things I guess?

Ah that's it, yes. Okay, how's this for a very rough draft:

Markwasten was traditionally ruled by a Ducal family, vassals to the Kingdom of Shornhelm. Some years ago, however, they broke away, perhaps under the cover of Shornhelm's decline (was there a decline, or was it all going strong until the war with Northpoint?) During the Orsinium Wars, it was overrun by orcs, leaving it conveniently ready to be re-overrun by Wayrest's armies. Queen Elysana installed her trusted spymaster, Dunistair's father (may have to be Dunistair himself, given the timeframe) as Count as a reward for a considerable number of murders, rescues and other such things. This status as new nobility (although not new money,The Berardes would traditionally have been a knightly family in Her Majesty's Secret Service, elevated somewhat rapidly to the County seat), would perhaps explain Dunistair's delicate handling of his people's perceptions.

Also, the name Markwasten sounds rather Nordic (-wasten appearing "Karthwasten" and "mark" sounding distinctly harsh). Perhaps something could be done with that? Established in the First Empire of the Nords perhaps. If I were to go with that, do you think it would be too late to change from Count to Earl? I like that title, and it would be similar to it's real-world etymology if it descended from the Nordic "Jarl".

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 9:04 pm

This is something else I wrote that is more or less the other size of the story. But it is a diary of a Madman and should not be regarded as full truth, "HE" refers to my character.


Diary of a Madman

Author Unknown

Entry One:

THEY WILL NEVER FIND ME HERE! NEVER! This is my cave..... my lonely beautiful cave...... SAFE! ITS SAFE! SAFE FROM THEM! safe from the hooded people, although you might not known the hooded people. They come during the night and take people from their homes. Lead them to cave, not my cave of course different cave where everything is dark. HE SAYS HE RULES FAIRLY! HA! he is one of them, one of the hooded ones.......

Entry Two:

GOBLINS! CURSES AND CURSES! My cave is a den to goblins, nasty, dirty goblins. I killed two of them near the entrance today. Something must be done..... Yes it must.

Entry Three:

HA! How they shrieked in pain... SWEET PAIN! The pain of my enemies yes... they are HIS spies. I took one captive. He refuses to talk. Refuses to say names and places. But he will. O YES he will......

Entry Four:

His death was a shame... Before he said anything, best spy I ever seen. Maybe he was a thrall no, no, no thralls feel no pain he felt pain but didn`t talk. Well at least he is gone down. Hhmmm never knew burned goblin could smell so..... TASTY!

Entry Five:

I have found a new companion today in the last tunnel, Jon he says he is named, well he doesn`t say anything like most skeevers. I have tried to teach him to talk but it hasn`t worked.... YET! Below is a register of my experiments for the future generations:

The rest of this entry is made only of mad ramblings

Entry Six:

Jon found something very interesting today yes very interesting. It seems someone was here before me..... A skeletons he is and refuses to talk. Maybe he is after I reanimate him...... Well enough of that, I have finally gained courage to leave the cave. Only during the night when I`m invisible of course, went as far as the village today.

Entry Seven:

I write this entry with haste in case I don`t come back. I have spotted one of them near here. Disguised as a fishermen. I will ambush him now with rock and sword, Divines give me strength.

Entry Eight:

HA NO MATCH AT ALL! fool of a cultist..... Kept yelling he was a fishermen. True to the disguise to the last. Anyway I left Jon to dispose of the body and I gained a pretty new hat.

Entry Nine:

HUNGER! HUNGER! HUNGER! HUNGER!

The rest of this entry is composed only of the word "Hunger"

Entry Ten:

Well my problems with food are done, raided the enemy food supplies. Another hooded one was also slain, yes she was. Disguised as a milkmaid. She was bathing and unarmed. I made quick work of her. The river is now red. I left a note to fake suicide.... Jon`s idea.

Entry Eleven:

THEY ARE COMING! DOZEN OF THEM CLAD IN BLACK! found cave yesterday attacked today with fire and ice, I sealed the entrance. THEY WILL NEVER GET TROUGHT!!!

Last Entry:

My defenses are broken, the rock was smashed an hour ago. I killed two of them there before I retreated her, my last solace. Jon covered my retreat. He was a good skeever but I fear he did not survive. This probably my last entry. I hear their voices..... I can only hope someone discovers this warning and rids the land of them:

"When midnight reaches the sky the black horse rides. They reach the caves where they sing till morning, innocents scream and are never seen again"

I hear footsteps. Farewell reader and heed my warn....

The rest of the page is tainted with blood and reading is not possible.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:10 pm

Earls are awesome. If Asap doesn't disapprove, I say go for it. The only problem is Counts have Countesses and Earls have..Earlesses? My spellcheck says: YES. Not as nice a name though. RE: the etymology, "Mark" means "March", as in, boundary land. "Wasten" just has to be from the same route as waste, IE the Old English Nedic/Aldmeris "westen". Meaning wasteland. So Markwasten was originally either a wasteland on the edge of some realm, or was where the edge of the realm MET what was seen as a wasteland. Keep in mind though when it comes to names, Tamrielic actually comes from Aldmeris, and the names of places in the Summerset Isle are places like Firsthold and Skywatch, IE, super English sounding. In other words, languages make no sense in TES. I like your nordy sounding theory though, go for it.

The backstory sounds great. I don't know if you read my lorefluff history on the previous page, but that more or less explains what set the current status quo, the Northpoint/Shornhelm war notwithstanding. Markwasten was probably added after or during those events ten years ago (before then it may have even been owned by the Orcs, and left in a power vacuum after their defeat, just throwing ideas out). One thing, Markwasten is actually (to a hilarious extent) the least valuable and the least important of all of Elysana's holdings. The rest of them all border the incredibly profitable Iliac Bay, whereas Markwasten is a landlocked moor high up on the steps of the Wrothgarians, surrounded on all sides by other states, difficult to defend and no way near as financially important as any where else in Wayrest. Still, land is land, and troops are troops. This might go some more way as to explaining why the Berardes are particularly wont to serve Elysana, as their standing in court would be somewhat lesser than the Countes of Koegria or Alcaire.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 6:59 am

Been fluffing out the Moorcroft dynasty. Got most of the products of Edwore's first marriage all written out on the Wiki. ASAP, if you glance at the 2nd to last person on Edwore's dynasty page so far, you'll see that I made her the person that ties Camlorn and Kambria together. Seemed as good a person as any :P

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:10 pm

Wait so is Wrothmark (used to be White Haven) still seperate from Auvergne (now White Haven)?

Never mind, I see it updated on the OP.

Also, Broken Scale, do you want to get together with my Count? It would seem only sensible that our characters go ahead and get things together (since we've had no interaction thus far).

Also, Sir_Ravd (CS was ignored so I'm guessing it is still pending acceptance), if you want I can employ you as a protector of Wrothmark. (Does your character accept gold or honor for payment?)

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:54 pm

I believe the wife of an Earl is traditionally a Countess, so I guess I'd go with that. Maybe Earl of Markwasten is a gender-neutral title like "Jarl", although not for the hereditary Earl's spouse (so it could be an Earl and his Countess or an Earl and her Count). Maybe that's over-complicated.

I think it's fitting that the spies would be given only a low-value acquisition. It's somewhat unseemly to give a valuable county to someone who isn't a glorious battle-winning baron or somesuch, and the title would be mostly to give the Berarde's more power to conduct their business.

I did read the Moonguard Revolt stuff, am I right in assuming that the attack on Orsinium following this was what is known as the Orsinium Wars? I'm thinking now Shornhelm (long ago) -> Orsinium (until Moonguard issue) -> Wayrest (revives title of Earl, bestows cheapy-cheap province on spymaster).

EDIT: also, I put Dunistair and Irienya on the wiki.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:29 pm

Great stuff, I love it. The history read like an old dusty and official chronicle. The madmen's note was fun as well, personally I blame Jon for everything. I like how macabre the whole thing is, very much suits how damn depressing and gothic my vision for Shornhelm as a whole is. Keep up the good work.

I'd like to see a bit more of a history and more exploration of your character's personality before I can accept this. This is a diplomacy based RP, not really a combat one, and the level of writing is generally quite high. You are welcome to join if you work on your character a little bit more first. We have quite a few unattached knights at the moment, and there is nothing in your CS yet to differentiate yours at all.

I assume Asap has not accepted your CS either, in which case you really shouldn't have posted yet, and your post isn't taken as part of the RP until you fix up your CS a bit more. Not posting before having your CS accepted is pretty explicitly in the rules.

That sounds really good. I like the term Earl, so I say go for it. You can never have too many Earls.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 8:50 pm

Only problem I see here is "Your Grace, His Grace, etc." is only used in referring to a Duke or Archduke. Barons and counts are normally referred to as "His Lordship, Your Lordship, etc."

I like it! Different is good. :)

That would be my fault.

He PM'd me the sheet and I accepted it. Was going to mention that it should be fleshed out more but forgot to. :shrug:

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 4:31 pm

Thanks!

Sleeper, as of your last post I think I might have figured something. Since your character is a little bit off I believe he would not be considered a threat and allowed to have a tower (As long as its small and someones pays the proper taxes and bribes)


Edit: Yeah, I didn`t know what to call it and "His Baronship" sounded quite bad in my head.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 11:14 am

Also, Broken Scale. I promise I'll have a post tonight.

I feel so bad for leaving you high and dry for so long. :(

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 12:42 pm

I feel kinda bad about not having such long and elaborate posts as the rest of you :P

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 7:11 pm

Sorry, not posting tonight.

[censored] RL [censored] has pissed me off too much. Going to blow off some steam and see if I can come up with something tomorrow.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 7:50 am


Um, sure, we can interact at some point. What ideas do you have in mind?


It's all good, man. I've been busy lately, and will continue to be busy over this next week or two, so I get it.
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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 7:00 pm

Sorry for the vague sheet, and the post I thought was approved again sorry. I would appreciate any further criticism so I can catch up. Thank you.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 7:07 pm

Well, since I'm a faithful Count and all I could go visit the Capital maybe. Discuss politlcal climate and how all the other Kingdoms are rubbish and are uncivilized mmyes.

Edit: Would anyone mind providing a brief synopsis on the latest political climate? I'm not sure where countries stand with one another. (I mean, I read the backstory about the Orcs but that's the extent of my knowledge in this timeline.)

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:56 pm

So I created a wiki page for my character (It was very complicated) and I plan to create one for the other soon, one question, is there anymore information required for the wiki beside the char sheet?

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 3:08 pm

Read the OP of the IC thread? Seems obvious but thought I'd suggest it anyways.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 6:19 pm

-_- Yeah, well, I didn't know how updated the OP was. Usually the OP sets the background but doesn't necessarily keep track of what's going on after the RP has begun.

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 10:51 am

Really nothing has happened politically so far. In that, anything that has happened in 9 pages, is basically character-oriented. As far as wider politics, nothing has changed from the OP except maybe some little tidbits in the regional lore that people have made up that effect small things (like my dynasty marrying into ASAP's, to explain why they are allied).

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 9:54 pm

That's all I needed. :thanks:

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Post » Sun May 05, 2013 5:11 pm

Nope, no laws on the wiki at all. Put whatever you like on there, the more information the better! Always link over here though so we know to read it :)

Sorry for the mix up, normally when me or Asap accept someone we post here. Those improvements to the CS look good, I officially allow you on the RP now, too :P. one word of warning, there really isn't much going on war-wise atm, so you will really have to pick a noble and follow them and try and weave your way into the plot on your own. Good luck with that though, just ask around here if you need any help and we will do our best.

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