So I've been reading a little bit from the Principia Discordia, I found it interesting to apply its message to TES lore seeing as the book is almost too surreal for me to take it too seriously in regards to my own universal beliefs.

Yes, I realize the book is a half-joke or Zen Buddhism for dummies, but it is still half serious and applying these principals to TES makes for interesting discussion.

Basically what it says is that order and disorder are just human constructs made to rationalize the universe and that existence itself is in reality in a form of sublime chaos. If Discordianism is real in the TES universe, then Anu and Padomay are not real and were only constructed so that that mortals (and the gods) could cling to some sort of false order. Could it not be said that the Gray maybe is the only universal force? If this is the case, then what was the point of Mundus? Shezarr created it to transcend the dualism of the universe and go back to the gray maybe, but what if that primal existence was there all along and he (and the other gods) had just set up to many rigid structures to notice?

It has already been said that the border separating Oblivion and Mundus is thin. If Aetherius is not any more orderly then Oblivion which is not any more disorderly then Aetherius then what makes these places any different at all? If everything still just gray maybe and Mundus is supposed to be a manifestation of that primal chaos, then what makes Mundus truly any different then the other realms?

I submit that: Anu and Padomay don't exist, Aetherius, Oblivion and Mundus are all really the same place and the final subgradient was there all along right in front of Shezarr.

The Grey Maybe may be all, maybe? I don't know. Consult your pineal gland?

I'm actually a card-carrying Discordian Pope. No [censored].

You're excommunicated, by the way. For being ugly. Also for taking the fun out of surreal and satirical jokes.

Yes, but everyone gets those cards that say they're Discordian Popes. They think pope and person are synonyms.

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Oh wait, we were talking about Discordianism? I'm sorry, I thought we were at a disco.

HO HO HO I'm such a twit.

EDIT: Also, the fact that tw@t is censored should be a mark of shame upon the moderators.

Shame, I say.

fnord

What?

Nothings gets by you, you clever, clever man!

Five tons of flax.

I'll be even more dedicated to Erisian principles by giving a sensible answer on a thread that's clearly marked 'Spam-Bait'.

Hah, no I won't.

At any rate, it's quite possible that Anu and Padome are simply abstracts for the convenience of mortal minds. Elves and humans seem to have different takes on them. I wouldn't equate that with saying there's 'just' the Grey Maybe though. Still, if you're gonna put out-universe stuff in TES, Discordianism beats out TIE-Fighters and Halo guns.

In human mind, order and disorder do exist. In the outside world, they do not. However, the world of TES is a mind. It is Godhead's mind. If he belives in order and disorder, they do exist.

Order and Chaos are just mortal interpretations of phenomena, but can you doubt the power (and presence) of opposites? Duality isn't a philosophical or spiritual concept- it's hard science.



The DNA of the universe.

Walter:

So does that mean Sheogorath = Eris?

If so, I think I might need brain bleach.

Thanks, I was tryin' to justify yer spam.