A problem caused this program to stop interacting with windo : IV

» Mon May 07, 2012 7:01 pm

I'm experiencing an odd issue. In addition to the typical 40minute CTD, I've began to get additional crashes every so often. The odd thing is, this type of crash never happens in exterior cells. I always get this type of crash when I'm trying to get out of a dungeon. I havn't experienced this crash while I'm trying to go deeper in a dungeon, it's always when I'm trying to find my way out. These crashes also started after I fixed my files from save game bloating. (using wrye bash)
The error report says:
Description
A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Problem signature
Problem Event Name: AppHangB1
Application Name: Oblivion.exe
Application Version: 1.2.0.416
Application Timestamp: 462392c7
Hang Signature: 2083
Hang Type: 2048
OS Version: 6.0.6002.2.2.0.768.3
Locale ID: 4105
Additional Hang Signature 1: ad26965b2ef62e55b169a0f1996393a6
Additional Hang Signature 2: dc1b
Additional Hang Signature 3: 1497d8cbde8f2364a5fec2b7893f03da
Additional Hang Signature 4: 2083
Additional Hang Signature 5: ad26965b2ef62e55b169a0f1996393a6
Additional Hang Signature 6: dc1b
Additional Hang Signature 7: 1497d8cbde8f2364a5fec2b7893f03da

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:08 pm

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1215524-application-error/page__p__18217566__fromsearch__1#entry18217566

The display properties utility in Windows, on the "Settings" tab, will tell you the graphics driver you are using, and the Device Manager will tell you the audio processor's name and give you its driver information. I shouldn't have to tell you that your graphics card is very old and very slow, being designed for business use, not for games, so you will be out of luck with any game newer than Oblivion (and will only be able to run it with low resolution and low quality settings, even as old as this old game is), until you upgrade the card.

http://www.gpureview.com/show_cards.php?card1=585&card2=321

I'm experiencing an odd issue. In addition to the typical 40minute CTD, I've began to get additional crashes every so often. The odd thing is, this type of crash never happens in exterior cells. I always get this type of crash when I'm trying to get out of a dungeon. I havn't experienced this crash while I'm trying to go deeper in a dungeon, it's always when I'm trying to find my way out. These crashes also started after I fixed my files from save game bloating. (using wrye bash)
The error report says:
Description
A problem caused this program to stop interacting with Windows.

Since your system may *NOT* be doing anything at all unusual when its old and slow little video card overheats and stops running, your comment about any "typical 40 minute CTD" must be flagged here. You never did finish describing your system, and never included any DxDiag (although I never ask for those, myself).

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:48 pm

I'm quite certain it's something wrong with the game itself. Whenever I load a save file that's near the end of a dungeon and try to play from that point, I get a few steps before it freezes and I have to close the program. I can try loading that file 10+ times and it will always crash. But if I load an earlier file near the start of the dungeon, I can get through the dungeon no problem. It's happened more than once and it always seems to be due to loading a save from deep inside a dungeon, (I don't understand why it's like that either) so I believe the problem lies with either my mods (wrye bash and BOSS are used) or my save files. As for the graphics card, I've never had problems with the card, the game runs smoothly at 1200x720 with 20+FPS nearly everywhere.

» Mon May 07, 2012 3:14 pm

Gorath being useless as usual...

Unforunately, that Application Hang error isn't going to help us. Unless you debug it on a computer specfic level its simply a generic memory error. This is not saying your RAM is defective (although it could be), its just a error during memory allocation. Most likely the application ran out of usable memory, failed to access a memory address or ran into a application bug (ie infinite loop) and timed out.

I strongly suggest that you post a dxdiag report, because there could be options to tweak Oblivion's memory management / confliguration options to minimize CTDs. 1280x720 isn't that high of resolution (less than one million pixels), so if you are only getting 20+ fps your GPU may be only mid grade at best (depending on your options). For comparison my native resoluton: 1920 x 1200 is over 2.3 million pixels.

I doubt its the GPU overheating as that would cause screen corruption, BSoDs, and/or a system restart... Maybe a VPU recovery error with AMD/ATI chipsets.

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During a inside to outside transition, your computer will be stressed especially your VRAM and system memory. Older saves may increase the likelihood of transition crashes because of all the saves information it needs to keep track of. Even with utilities to repair Oblivion saves eventually the save files may get corrupted or overloaded.

Again please post a dxdiag so that I can try to get to the root of the issue.

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:52 pm

Spoiler

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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/6/2011, 21:21:59
Machine name: MARGARET-PC
Operating System: Windows Vista? Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.vistasp2_gdr.101014-0432)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Inspiron 545
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel® Core™2 Quad CPU Q8200 @ 2.33GHz (4 CPUs)
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 4818MB used, 3578MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 7.00.6002.18107 32bit Unicode
DxDiag Previously: Crashed in system information (stage 1) & Direct3D (stage 2)

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DxDiag Notes
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Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Manufacturer:
Chip type:
DAC type:
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_954F&SUBSYS_904E1028&REV_00
Display Memory:
Dedicated Memory: n/a
Shared Memory: n/a
Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name:
Driver Version: ()
DDI Version:
BGRA Supported: No
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: , 0 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier:
Vendor ID:
Device ID:
SubSys ID:
Revision ID:
Revision ID:
Video Accel:
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
DDraw Status: Disabled
D3D Status: Not Available
AGP Status: Not Available

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Sound Devices
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Description: Speakers (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: HDAUDIO\FUNC_01&VEN_10EC&DEV_0888&SUBSYS_102802E0&REV_1000
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: RTKVHD64.sys
Driver Version: 6.00.0001.5731 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
Date and Size: 1/13/2009 03:33:14, 1556128 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
HW Accel Level: Basic
Cap Flags: 0xF1F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 100, 200000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX™ 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2™ Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura™ ZoomFX™: No

load order

Spoiler

00 Oblivion.esm
01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5bSI]
03 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]
04 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]
05 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9MB3]
06 Toaster Says Share v3.esm
07 HorseCombatMaster.esm
08 FastTravelDoubleFaceFix.esp
09 Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp [Version 3.2.0]
0A DLCShiveringIsles.esp
0B Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp [Version 1.4.0]
0C Oblivion.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
0D Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
0E Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
0F Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp
10 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]
11 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]
12 DLCHorseArmor.esp
13 DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.5]
14 DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
15 DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
16 DLCSpellTomes.esp
++ DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.1]
17 Chapel Shop.esp
18 Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
19 FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]
1A Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08a]
1B FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
1C Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]
1D FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
1E FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesSlightlyReduced.esp [Version 0.9.9MB3]
++ FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Blood.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - No Slimes.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]
1F OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]
20 Hentai Mania.esp
21 Zira's Clydesdale Horses.esp
22 DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
23 DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.4]
24 DLCFrostcrag.esp
25 Knights.esp
26 Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp [Version 1.0.9]
++ FCOM_Knights.esp [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
++ FCOM_SlofsHorses.esp
27 HentaiMania2.esp
28 MidasSpells.esp
29 Deadly Reflex 5 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp
2A DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp
2B Oblivion XP.esp [Version 4.1.5]
2C Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp
2D _Ren_BeautyPack_full.esp
2E TSS Custom Companion Template.esp
2F Toaster Says Share Faction Recruitment.esp
30 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 3.0]
31 Custom NPCs for CSR.esp
32 Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Mon May 07, 2012 8:40 pm

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4300/4500 Series
Manufacturer:
Chip type:
DAC type:
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_954F&SUBSYS_904E1028&REV_00
Display Memory:
Dedicated Memory: n/a
Shared Memory: n/a
Current Mode: 1600 x 900 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: Generic PnP Monitor
Driver Name:
Driver Version: ()
DDI Version:
BGRA Supported: No
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: , 0 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier:
Vendor ID:
Device ID:
SubSys ID:
Revision ID:
Revision ID:
Video Accel:
Deinterlace Caps: n/a
DDraw Status: Disabled
D3D Status: Not Available
AGP Status: Not Available

Based on that information plus the PCI IDs its a Radeon 4350 (512MB VRAM, I believe). Take this with a grain of salt: this is a not really a gaming graphics card. Its something you would put in a HTPC. Its better than most integrated cards, but not by a whole lot.

First thing it looks like the drivers aren't loaded correctly as AGP and D3D statuses aren't available. This is puzzling as if this were the case, Oblivion shouldn't load at all. Anyway, try reloading the graphics driver. You may download it here (assuming 32-bit O/S): http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-32.aspx , select the Catalyst Control Suite (59.1MB) this is the only file you need to download.

Download and install the driver and post an update dxdiag report.

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Now the Radeon 4350 is not going to run Oblivion on high settings on anything. You may be able to get low or medium-low. Minimize shadows and view distance as these with overwhelm the chipset. I cannot verify if your load order is causing any conflicts as I focus on hardware issues.