Problem loading oblivion *sigh* : IV

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:55 pm

As the title inducates I'm having troublem loading oblivion after installing mods. I recently reinstalled oblivion and decided to install FCOM plus optionals, I sorted through the mods using BOSS and then merged all the mods and associated (except one marked as unmergable) into a bash patch. I can get to the main menu in the game and hit "new game" but when it finished loading it CTD's. I cannot work out why and wondered if any of you lovely people might have some insight

I have included my load order below:

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]02  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.72]04  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]05  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]06  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]07  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]08  Artifacts.esm09  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]0A  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0B  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.2]**  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]0C  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp0D  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.08a]**  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB3]**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]++  OOO-Water_Weeds.esp  [Version 1.33]++  OOO-Container_Trap_Instant_Effects.esp  [Version 1.33]**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]**  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]**  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]++  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]0E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]0F  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]10  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]11  Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]12  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]13  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]14  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]++  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.69]++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]15  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]16  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]17  P1DcandlesForKleptos.esp++  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]**  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]18  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:11 pm

You are missing some of the Francesco's esp's:
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies
FCOM_Francesco'sNamedBosses <--- This one is in the FCOM download.
You should use the second link in my signature to see if I have given you any bad information, and to get the 1.09 version of Oblivion War Cry, and the matching esp FCOM_WarCry.esp (version 0.9.9mb5}
You need the FCOM_BobsArmory.esp <--- This one is in the FCOM download
You do not want to use the MMM Gems & Gemdust plugin with FCOM, and you should switch the MMM Diverse Runeskulls Loot to the OOO version as well.
Use one Gaurd Unity Plugin <--- I read this in a post by CorePC, and removed one from my Load Order.
Use the MMM-Cobl version 1.73, It is found in the third topic of the MMM release thread, and you might think about updating your Cobl to version 1.73, the links are in the FCOM release thread for the optional updates.
You want to make sure you are using the 3.01 version of Harvest Flora, and you want to use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25078 by TheNiceOne to fix some issues with Living Economy <--- Living Economy is bundled with OOO.
EDIT be careful when building your Bashed Patch, do not check the Mayu's Animation Skeleton Tweaker in the Tweak Actors section of the Bashed Patch-doing this will cause a CTD.

» Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:31 pm

You are missing some of the Francesco's esp's:
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies
Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies
FCOM_Francesco'sNamedBosses <--- This one is in the FCOM download.
You should use the second link in my signature to see if I have given you any bad information, and to get the 1.09 version of Oblivion War Cry, and the matching esp FCOM_WarCry.esp (version 0.9.9mb5}
You need the FCOM_BobsArmory.esp <--- This one is in the FCOM download
You do not want to use the MMM Gems & Gemdust plugin with FCOM, and you should switch the MMM Diverse Runeskulls Loot to the OOO version as well.
Use one Gaurd Unity Plugin <--- I read this in a post by CorePC, and removed one from my Load Order.
Use the MMM-Cobl version 1.73, It is found in the third topic of the MMM release thread, and you might think about updating your Cobl to version 1.73, the links are in the FCOM release thread for the optional updates.
You want to make sure you are using the 3.01 version of Harvest Flora, and you want to use http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=25078 by TheNiceOne to fix some issues with Living Economy <--- Living Economy is bundled with OOO.
EDIT be careful when building your Bashed Patch, do not check the Mayu's Animation Skeleton Tweaker in the Tweak Actors section of the Bashed Patch-doing this will cause a CTD.

Thanks for your help. I followed all your advice (except the 0.9.9 for warcry, the download appears broken) and followed the advice on the FCOM thread for creating the bash patch but it still does not work. However I'm not sure its a mod anymore, I started oblivion with no mods and no OBSE and it still CTD as soon as it had loaded when starting a new game. Interestingly windows event viewer does not show a crash event, its as if the game is just shutting itself down as soon as it loads. I'm at a loss here and and insight would be greatly appreciated.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:44 am

Delete and regenrate ini, followed by reinstalling DarkDarnUI if you are using it?

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 12:39 am

You'll hate this advice, but....

I suggest that you completely uninstall and delete your Oblivion folder.
Troubleshooting and repairing a faulty installation of the mod will probably take more time trying to fix than seemingly going the long haul.
.
Precise instructions and current download links are detailed in the opening post of it's thread.
WarCry is linked at the very top - in red.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:04 am

Thanks for all the help everyone, after a clean install of oblivion it seems to work now (I can create a new game at least, we'll see if it crashes after the sewers)

One thing I'm looking for now is a better face mod since the default faces look very low res and abit ridiculous, can anyone reccomend a good one (I did a quick search of the forum but didn't find anything)

Thanks

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:09 pm

Try COBL.
It adds new races and cosmetics plus revamps npc's through TNR.

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:42 am

I have tried every face texture enhancer on "texnexus" and "planetelderscrolls".
In my opinion, you can make a pretty good looking character without texture replacing, but...

If you just want increased resolution with a less "blotchy" look, I recommend http://planetelderscrolls.gamespy.com/View.php?view=oblivionmods.detail&id=1507 by Shady Tradesman. If you want custom face textures, Enayla's http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14805 takes the cake, IMO. (Some people prefer the older "http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9534" variant.)

Other popular texture replacement projects include:
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=14839 by Enayla
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=1965 by MaboroshiDaikon (Cleaned up, slightly modified faces.)
http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=7343 (I personally do not recommend this one, it makes all the lips look awful. No offense to the creator or anyone who enjoys this mod. Although, it does includes some enhanced meshes that can be used in combination with IFT.)

The preferred order of installation:

Danis13 BEAUTY FACES (optional)IFT (Improved Facial Textures) by Shady TradesmanNew Face Textures by EnaylaDremora Face Texture by Enayla

Lastly, there are plenty of beauty mods out, but they are not all compatible (sadly). "Race Balancing Project" and "COBL Races" do an excellent job at combining beautification projects, but make sure to only choose one. If you do not desire either of these, browse the endless supply of beauty projects on your favorite modding website. I find that the "Race Balancing Project" combines quite nicely with "Tamriel NPCs Revamped"

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:32 am

Hi again guys, thanks for all your previous help. I finally got oblivon modded and running, however I seem to get a random crash in the wilderness and I'm not sure why. I'm wondering if anyone here has any insight, error log and mod list printed below:

Faulting application name: Oblivion.exe, version: 1.2.0.416, time stamp: 0x462392c7
Faulting module name: D3D9.DLL, version: 6.1.7600.16385, time stamp: 0x4a5bd9a9
Exception code: 0xc0000005
Fault offset: 0x00023c23
Faulting process id: 0xf74
Faulting application start time: 0x01cc189495d0b055
Faulting application path: C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Oblivion.exe
Faulting module path: C:\Windows\system32\D3D9.DLL
Report Id: 4ff4fe0d-8488-11e0-99af-00241dc23eeb

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Active Mod Files:00  Oblivion.esm01  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.3]02  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]03  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 4.5bSI]04  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.73]05  Qarls_Harvest.esm06  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.34]07  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.7b3p3]08  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB3]09  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]0A  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]0B  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.3.5]0C  DLCShiveringIsles.esp0D  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.4.2]0E  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0F  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp10  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp11  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp12  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9]13  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9]14  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9]15  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.3]16  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.3]17  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]18  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.3]19  Qarls_Harvest.esp1A  Enhanced Economy.esp  [Version 5.2.2]1B  MMM_Runeskull_Rebalance_BETA2.esp  [Version Beta]1C  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]1D  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]1E  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp1F  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9]20  Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp21  FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp  [Version 0.9.9]22  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]23  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB5]24  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.34]25  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]26  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]27  OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.72]28  FCOM_Cobl.esp  [Version 0.9.9]29  Mart's Monster Mod - Additional Enemy NPC Vars.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2A  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]2B  FCOM_EntropicOrderRebalance.esp  [Version 0.9.9beta2]2C  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2D  FCOM_DurabilityAndDamage.esp  [Version 0.9.9]2E  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]2F  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]30  Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]31  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]32  Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]33  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]34  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]35  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3f]36  Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]37  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]38  FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp  [Version 0.9.9]39  FCOM_HungersUnitySI.esp  [Version 0.9.9]3A  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]3B  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]3C  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]3D  MMM-Cobl.esp  [Version 1.73]3E  Artifacts.esp  [Version 1.1]3F  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]40  Extended Imperial City Version 1.0.esp41  za_bankmod.esp42  Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp  [Version 3.7b3p3]43  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]44  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]45  Oblivion XP.esp  [Version 4.1.5]**  Dark Dungeons.esp  [Version 1.0]**  Dark Dungeons -  SI.esp  [Version 1.0]46  Cobl Races.esp  [Version 1.52]47  Cobl Races - Balanced.esp  [Version 1.52]48  FCOM_Archery.esp  [Version 0.9.9]49  Cobl Silent Equip Misc.esp  [Version 01]4A  Bashed Patch, 0.esp

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:47 am

A random crash is a tough one...The original (Vanilla) game will crash on occasion. I still have a random crash. I can play my FCOM install for 8 hours but once in a great while I crash. If it is not constant/repeatable then I will say ...live with it...lol

Only thing I haven't done to my 2 year old install is ...PyFFI my mods..

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 11:36 am

A random crash is a tough one...The original (Vanilla) game will crash on occasion. I still have a random crash. I can play my FCOM install for 8 hours but once in a great while I crash. If it is not constant/repeatable then I will say ...live with it...lol

Only thing I haven't done to my 2 year old install is ...PyFFI my mods..

It seems to not occur too often and I have oblivion crash preventer now so hopefully I won't get so many

One problem I'm now having though is after I installed the "really AEVWD" mod im getting like 20 fps while looking over the landscape outside, is this normal bearing in mind my PC is a ATI 5870 GPU and i7 CPU and oblivion is at max settings in 1920x1200? (I also have streamline, oblivion crash preventer and oblivion stutter remover installed)

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 2:49 am

For random crashes (are you sure it's random? you can't recreate it?), I recommend using a PCB mod (like http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=9139), and http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=23208. It has done wonders for me (I had A LOT of random crashes).

» Wed Mar 30, 2011 3:53 am

Streamline incudes Streampurge for the PCB. You can activate StreamSmooth and adjust the FPS settings to work with the FPS settings of OSR, but you will lose some part of the scenery to get the performance boost, but you get to choose what is lost and how much it is reduced. My biggest issue is with RAM usage on higher level characters - I only have 4Gb of RAM and my game will take almost 3 Gb to run a level thirty plus saved game after an hour or two, and I avoid higher resolution textures. I try and keep my Load Order under 200 active mods and avoid script heavy mods. My game is your Load Order and Integration, Unique Landscapes, and OCR, with a few armor and weapon mods. If I have to, UL is easy to remove and does not cause any major issues for my "hard" saved games. I intentionally make my "hard" saves in a player owned home.