Started a new game with a lot (for me) of mods. My character is at the tavern in Pelagiad wanting to rent a room for the night. The dialogue with the innkeeper looks right and she says the room is mine, but no gold is removed from my inventory. I go upstairs and the room is locked. The warnings.txt file says:
One of the files that "shrinetext.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "RealSignposts.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "Sound Enhancements.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "GOTYSTMPPPatch.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One of the files that "VGreetings-Thief.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save.
This may result in errors. Saving again will clear this message
but not necessarily fix any errors.
One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.
Script variable "murderedAlvisTeri" not found for dialogue type Topic
Info "EMPTY"
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_exquisite_1_f.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_03.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_5.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_4.
Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_extrav_1_f.
Script Pub_Pelagiad_Halfway
Syntax Error Line 2.
Could not find variable "rent".
==>CompileAndRun problem was found in Topic "Beds"
"Head right up the stairs, and you'll find a clean, inviting bed awaits you."

Texture "Textures\_land_default.tga" count 3.
Texture "Textures\menu_thick_border_bottom_right_corner.dds" count 2.

The mods I've installed for this game are:
_001_ Morrowind.esm
_002_ Tribunal.esm
_003_ Bloodmoon.esm
_004_ GOTYFullTidyZeroMpp.esm
_005_ Morrowind Patch v1.6.4.esm
_006_ Better Heads.esm
_007_ Better Heads Bloodmoon addon.esm
_008_ Better Heads Tribunal addon.esm
_009_ Book Rotate.esm
_010_ Lgnpc_SN.esp
_011_ shrinetext.esp
_012_ Beds4Rent.esp
_013_ dh_furn.esp
_014_ dh_furn_stores.esp
_015_ P.R.E. v4.0.esp
_016_ RealSignposts.esp
_017_ entertainers.esp
_018_ DB_Attack_Mod.esp
_019_ AreaEffectArrows.esp
_020_ Book Rotate - Tribunal v5.3.esp
_021_ Book Rotate - Bloodmoon v5.3.esp
_022_ adamantiumarmor.esp
_023_ Galsiahs Character Development.esp
_024_ GCD StartScript for Trib or Bloodmoon.esp
_025_ GCD better balanced birthsigns.esp
_026_ GCD Restore Potions Fix.esp
_027_ EBQ_Artifact.esp
_028_ Wyr Jeweler v1.01 c.120.esp
_029_ abotWhereAreAllBirdsGoing.esp
_030_ Book Jackets - Morrowind - BookRotate.esp
_031_ Book Jackets - Tribunal - BookRotate.esp
_032_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon - BookRotate.esp
_033_ AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
_034_ Sound Enhancements.esp
_035_ Wilderness Sounds T & B.esp
_036_ WholeStorm's RobePack.esp
_037_ Unique Banners and Signs.esp
_038_ Better Bodies.esp
_039_ LGNPC_GnaarMok_v1_10.esp
_040_ LGNPC_MaarGan_v1_20.esp
_041_ LGNPC_AldVelothi_v1_20.esp
_042_ DXM_masterindex_journalfix.esp
_043_ Clerical Robes.esp
_044_ Eyren_Robes.esp
_045_ LGNPC_HlaOad_v1_32.esp
_046_ Knock Knock Mod 1.2.esp
_047_ Camonna Tong's violence 1.2.esp
_048_ k_weather.esp
_049_ Master Trainers.esp
_050_ LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20.esp
_051_ LGNPC_Aldruhn_v1_20_suppl.esp
_052_ LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_22.esp
_053_ LGNPC_TelMora_v1_20.esp
_054_ LGNPC_Khuul_v2_10.esp
_055_ LGNPC_VivecFQ_v2_10.esp
_056_ LGNPC_TelUvirith_v1_20.esp
_057_ LGNPC_IndarysManor_v1_51.esp
_058_ LGNPC_VivecRedoran_v1_50.esp
_059_ LGNPC_PaxRedoran_v1_20.esp
_060_ LGNPC_SoulSicknessPatch_v1_00.esp
_061_ GOTYSTMPPPatch.esp
_062_ Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
_063_ Bloated Caves.esp
_064_ Graphic Herbalism.esp
_065_ Graphic Herbalism Extra.esp
_066_ VGreetings.esp
_067_ VGreetings-Flee.esp
_068_ New Argonian Bodies - Mature.esp
_069_ Starfires NPC Additions ver-1.11.esp
_070_ New Khajiit Bodies - Mature.esp
_071_ NX9_Guards_Complete.ESP
_072_ VGreetings-Idle.esp
_073_ NX9_Guard_LGTrib_patch.ESP
_074_ NX9_Guard_LGRedoran_Patch.ESP
_075_ VGreetings-Thief.esp
_076_ SkillUpLedger.esp
_077_ Rich_Creeper.esp
_078_ Homes To Let v2pt0.esp

Too early in my game to know if I'm going to have this problem at other taverns, and I can't tell from the warnings which mod is causing the problem.

Help appreciated.

Thanks,

John

Well, something has messed-up your Pub_Pelagiad_Halfway script.
My first thought is that it might be this: Beds4Rent.esp

Although you do have some mods here I don't recognize at all.

Have you run your Load Order through http://code.google.com/p/mlox/wiki/Mlox yet?
(I would also strongly suggest creating a Mashed List.esp with Wrye Mash, and a Merged Object.esp with TESTool or SmartMerger)

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Warnings like this: "One of the files that "shrinetext.esp" is dependent on has changed since the last save......" usually won't be too problematic, but updating your Save with Wrye Mash will ensure no problems arise.

Warnings like this: "One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on...." are harmless, but updating any Yellow esps in Wrye Mash will remove the error.

Warnings of the following type are harmless and can be ignored:
"Not able to find Foot part in BC_shoes_common_1"
Texture "Textures\_land_default.tga" count 3

The line of dialog is from LGNPC Pelagiad. That entry writes to the local variable 'rent' declared in the official script Pub_Pelagiad_Halfway. LGNPC Pelagiad does not alter that script or Drelasa Ramothran, but perhaps another mod does. You can open the console by pressing the tithe '~' key and type: TFH . After closing the console mouse over Drelasa Ramothran and you will learn what (if any) script is attached to her. If she has been altered in any way this might give a clue as to what mod is responsible.

@Pluto, thanks. I checked it out with mlox. mlox recoomends some load order changes, but some of its suggestions seem to contradict what the mod's readme says, so I'm leery of changing things. And I'm afraid your suggestions of a Mashed List.esp with Wrye Mash, and a Merged Object.esp with TESTool or SmartMerger) are greek to me. I'll see what I can learn, but what will probably happen is that I'll try a kludge fix (for example, in Pelagiad, I chose to wait for the dawn and then left to sleep elsewhere) and in the future will make sure that I don't need to rest there.

What I can say is that in Wrye Mash most of the mods have green check boxes to the left and the three that are pink are not checked off for installation now. I returned to play Morrowind after say a four years hiatus, which would account for some of the mods being unfamiliar. The older ones were ones that worked fine for me AFAICT and that I enjoyed then. It's been a very long time since I had to think about and remember things such as load order, GMSTs, merged lists, etc. I've forgotten nearly all of it in fact and am starting over from scratch.

@Cyran0, thanks for the steps I need to follow. I suspect I'll run into the same issue as I mentioned above, too little experience yet to understand the messages I get. I follow your point that a change by one mod may actually be masking the real cause of the problem. With as many mods as I loaded up this time, there's certainly no end of suspects. My guess is that it will be something to do with the LGNPC mod, homes to let or maybe the trainers mod. LGNPC certainly adds and changes dialogue; I hope that it's not the cause because I enjoyed what I've encountered so far although I discovered that one of the mods has changed the Imperial Cult behavior in Peagiad as well.

Thanks. If I can figure things out, I'll keep you'all posted.

John

Cyran0,

I started a new game after doing a restore of my backup and then re-installing the various mods, including the LGNPC mods. My new character is in Pelagiad and encounters the same problem as originally reported. The mod in question is LGNPC_Pelagiad_v1_22.esp.

There is also what I consider a seriously major bug with respect to Ygfa and to the Imperial Cult dialogues. When I went to talk with Ygfa, she does not refernce the Imperial Cult nor does she ooes she talk about her trade and ISTR that in the previous game with the LGNPC mods installed, she is still referenced as person to learn about the healing arts and also as one of the Imperial Cult's persons to talk with about joining.

I followed your instructions to use TFH to look for scripts as well as testing what happens with and without the mod installed.

With the mod installed

When I talk with the Halfway barkeep and click on "beds", an error message popped up:
Script Pub_Pelagiad_Halfway Syntax Error Line 2
Could not find variable 'rent'

She offers the room but doesn't take the money and of course the door to the room remains locked.using TFH, it provided the barkeep's name and said script Pub_Pelagiad_Halfway

WRT Ygfa, TFH said script max_lgnpc_ygfa_sc_01 - (I'm not certain I wrote it down correctly)

Here's a screenshot of Ygfa's dialog options with the mod:[img]http://i53.tinypic.com/iymovt.jpg[/img]


After I removed the mod from the Data Files loader, the problem with renting the room went away, and Ygfa's conversation options seemed to be back to what I expected.

screenshot without the mod: [img]http://i55.tinypic.com/xmppc2.jpg[/img]

Perhaps this will help. I liked the offbeat responses but this bug and the changes to Ygfa and to Imperial Cult dialogue pretty much ruins playing it in my games because my characters look to Ygfa for mentoring about the healing arts and for initial details about the Imperial Cult. This seems to negate both avenues. And ISTR that I ran into similar disconnects in conversations with NPCs in other parts of Morrowind. Can you give a bit more info about that aspect?

Thanks,

John

AND next time don't trash the room all hopped up on sujamma and moonsugar partying with Crassius Curio.

ST

@John: I have been unable to reproduce your results. With LGNPC Pelagiad loaded alone or with the rest of our mods, Drelasa Ramothran offers me a bed, takes my ten drakes, unlocks the door to the rental room, turns down the covers and places a mint on the pillow (so to speak).

When I met Ygfa she saw something special in me and suggested that I join the Imperial Cult. I inquired further but in the end I declined. Ygfa seemed a little disappointed so the smooth things over with her I inquired about her trade and made other small talk to feign interest in her life. I must say I was very impressed with her encyclopedic knowledge of potions, but when Ygfa began telling me about the variety of diseases to be had on the island I offered some pretense to excuse myself.

In fairness, Ygfa did not always greet me by extolling the virtues of the Imperial Cult. I checking the construction set and it appears that her new greetings have a fifty percent chance of being used - the rest of the time she uses her official greeting. I suspect that you were just unlucky. You might test Ygfa again to see if repeated greetings do not eventually yield the familiar official greeting you have been anticipating.

As for your inability to rent a room in the Halfway Tavern you might consider downloading LGNPC Pelagiad again in case your copy has become corrupted. If that does not solve the problem you should look elsewhere for your lodgings or remove that mod from your load list.

@ST: :mohawk: