this is possibly the one and only problem i've faced with OBSE

i just switched TODAY from v0017b to v0018, and AS SOON AS I PUT V0018 INTO THE CORRECT FOLDER...everything went to hell...

now the gmae refuses to run, and i mean REFUSES!!! it gets to NOTHING, NOT EVEN THE FIRST BETHESDA LOGO...then boom ctd, sometimes there is a (check solution or close program), sometimes it doesnt, the thing is, if i take out the v0018 stuff, the game STILL refuses to run, BUT!!! if i uninstall oblivion, and don't put v0018 stuff in EVER, it will open, of course the game wouldn't work well because 1) i was in a mod plce 2) that mod required obse...


someone PPPPLLLLEEEEAAASSSSSEEEEE help me ;_: it stops me form playing

and i can't even get back v0017b, i guess thats what you get when you move to folder, and not copy... >.>...then your brother empties the recycle bin...

HALP!!!! :banghead: :flame: :swear:

on the upside the obse 17b was helpful...v18 will be... if i get it to work that it

This sounds like the problem is not actually with OBSE. If you run Oblivion.exe directly, instead of obse_loader.exe, does it work?

Make sure you install the http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=A5C84275-3B97-4AB7-A40D-3802B2AF5FC2&displaylang=en. The error message should have indicated a runtime issue if installing that fixes this particular problem, however. Please, http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/troubleshooting/postlo. You may need to update a mod or two.

Edit: Are you saying installing v18 of OBSE on a fresh installation of Oblivion with nothing else crashes? Install that update, make sure you have the game http://www.elderscrolls.com/downloads/updates_patches.htm (if you do not already have the latest version with using the GOTY version) and launch the game through the obse launcher. If that does not work, I will be surprised to say the least...

what i'm saying is before i put v0018 in, it worked fine, but after, it doesn't, it might be my runtime, damn, thats what screwed up my old game and i do not know how to upload my load order, i can't find it. but i will try thr runtime, thanks, could yhou post a link to it?

I linked everything I mentioned, the runtime update and how to post your load order are all linked in that post (that you quoted.) Make sure the game is patched to the latest version as well because that is required for OBSE to function properly.

Then it's not an OBSE problem, as Wyzard256 was getting at. It seems like you're missing a master, but it depends on what the

error is.


Now for the diagnostic step - install v18, use the OBSE_Loader.exe, and see if it opens.

haama, the thing is, the game WILL WORK if i never put v0018 in, but if i do EVEN ONCE it refuses to run, once i get home i will post my load order and such, and the game never ran once i put v0018 in, not once, but if i uninstall and reinstall, it will work until i try to put it in, then i take it out it stills doesnt, that may be mod problems on that part, i downloaded a couple, here are the ones i remember i downloaded right before installing new OBSE:

madoggs fantasy mod (maddoggs?)

deadly reflex

servent of the dawn

also, when the error shows up, it says oblivion has stopped working, check online for a solution or close program, thats all

Make sure you have http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=2DA43D38-DB71-4C1B-BC6A-9B6652CD92A3&displaylang=en installed as well.

Pretty sure its not the fault of obse. I updated just yesterday to version 18, and have no issues. Perhaps the download was corrupted. If you do reinstall oblivion make sure you delete everything, it creates some files in um my documents (I think) that are not deleted on uninstall.

Don't panic. Just don't.

Look for a file called "obse.log" in your Oblivion>Data folder.

Also, look for a file called "obse_loader.log".

What do those files say? Some error messages in there?

Did you install OBSE correctly (all the 3 files - check if you don't have the steam version do you? - and in the right location?) Read the readme for OBSE v018 and see if you have fulfilled all the requirements.

Do you use Wrye Bash or OBMM? How about BOSS?

i USED obmm for like 3 mods, and i never got the hang of it, and the only thing the obse text document says after the normal stuf is oblivion :deinitialized or something like that

What version of Oblivion do you have? DVD? Direct2Drive download? Steam download? Game of the Year?

Did you install the patch if you don't have the GOTY edition?

Please cut and paste the contents of the obse.log and obse_loader.log here.

load order:
Armamentarium.esm
Oblivion.esm
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
Knights.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Wayshrines in the University.esp
Fantasy Mod.esp
AncientTowers.esp
Advanced Magecraft.esp
RealisticForceHigh.esp
Apachii_Heroes_Store.esp
Castle_Seaview.esp
FormID Finder4.esp
Infinite Charge.esp
ArmamentariumLL.esp
ArmamentariumLLMagic.esp
ArmamentariumLLArmaVendor.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
Barbada_Island.esp
CapesandCloaks.esp
ActorsInEmotions.esp
Amajor7 Imperial Furniture.esp
actors_in_charge.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
FastTravelAllowed.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Gloves.esp
No Quest Items.esp
Arch_Mages_Robe_Enchanted_--_Master_Level-2205.esp
Bigger_Soul_for_Soul_Gems-4479.esp
Enchantment-and-Spellmaking-Unlocker-Unbalanced.esp
P1DrobesOver.esp
P1DshieldNoGlow.esp
Active_Inventory_Spell_1.2.esp
sr_super_hotkeys.esp
Akatosh Mount By Saiden Storm.esp
Servant of the Dawn.esp
DeadlyReflex 5 - Combat Moves.esp

though i swear i had more... but anyways, i tried runtime install, i already had it, so i repaired, it did absolutely nothing, also, here are the 3 files i dragged in, just to tell you guys:
obse_loader.exe (runner file)
obse_editor_1_2.dll
obse_1_2_416.dll

i removed the files that came with v0017b

this is REALLY starting to piss me off, i need serious fixes, so i'm going to provide all the detail i can:

here is what the obse text document said (i think it's obse.log)
OBSE: initialize (version = 17.4 010201A0)
oblivion root = C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\
plugin directory = C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\Data\OBSE\Plugins\
patched
OBSE: deinitialize

WOAH WOAH i noticed it said version - 17.4... it should be 18... O.o

okay i fixed the obse.log saying version 17.4, i remember i decided to re-try v17b, no works, obviously, now it says version = 18.6

here is what obse_loader.log says

crc = 7934C86C
dll = C:\Program Files (x86)\Bethesda Softworks\Oblivion\obse_1_2_416.dll
hookBase = 001D0000
loadLibraryAAddr = 758A4BC6
hook thread complete
launching oblivion

also, i am using the disk copy of the collectors edition

in reality i have given all information i possible can...so i don't know what to do

well i'm leaning towards deadly reflex as the f***er-upper, i unchecked all mods, and it WORKED (i know hey!) so i'm going through checkign on mods, and if one crashes, i know which one to never ever use

I know it has been asked but don't see the answer.....

When you installed the Game again Did you Patch it with the Official patch bringing the Game up to .....1.2.416

The Game not the OBSE. the OBSE dll is for version 1.2.416

You have the Collector version ..that is an earlier version...Get the Official patch .

Edit never mind..lol..I type slow in the editor..

Edit 2: Heck ya Deadly Reflex is going to give you problems your Missing The ESM!!!!

Edit 3: FormID Finder4.esp with that so high in your LO says to me this needs http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20516
Edit 4 From the readme of Deadly Reflex...
Edit 5 ..lol Damn....Oblivion HAS to be the first mod in the load order no exception!!
Edit 6 So since the install of Deadly this has been a Missing master Crash!!

uhhh nice editing spree but regardless i just say screw deadly reflex i dont want to do any .esm...ing? i'll just never evar use deadly reflex plus it tells me to change the load order so i'm like "WOAH how do i do this"... but off topic- how do i change load orders?

The Link in the Above Mess IS BOSS (Better Oblivion Sorting Software) Run it and it will do the Magic!

Nothing special with the ESM your just missing a file. Check the Readme and the Download ..its there..

so what you're saying is i need the horse combat .esm? i thought i didn't, d@mn i'm an idiot

If you are using OBMM, use the up and down button beneath the plugins list pane. You need to sort the list by load order first, however.

i refuse to use obmm because i work well without it and not good with...i guess times changed since 2008, i guess i gotta...BOOO

oh i understand what you meant tom, armamentiruem (spelling?) is above oblivion.esm...so stuff goes down and screws it up! i just move oblivion to the top of the load order and deadly reflex will run fine?

Nope ..lol We all miss things from time to time..there is even a thread here on the forums that you can add your blunders with the rest of US... yes I have a post in there also!!...lol

You could use Wrye Bash instead, but I think that that would be even more complicated. Excuse me if I linked this already, but this page has instructions for how to install OBMM as well as a link to the download: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep. There is also an introductory page for OBMM on the site: http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/prep/obmm. See the "Related Pages" for more introductory information (i.e., how to create OMODs, intro to the interface, etc.)

hmm well it worked now that everything isn't messed up (thanks you to everyone) btw i mean the game loads, i have to re-install my UI change before i start, i'll tell oyu guys if it works after