Having a few small issues with vampire mods and wanted to see if anyone knew of any known criteria that would cause it.

Vamp mods are Vampire Werewolf, Vampire Embrace and it's patches, and Vampiric Hunger and it's addons.

First is a minor thing where vampires give a "Glad there are no vampires here." response to the Embrace topic. May not even be an issue there and may just be sarcasm?

Second is that when H2Hing other vamps with Bite Mode on (named vanilla and mod added) I get the "Mortal" menu and I can proceed to embrace, enslave, etc. other vamps. I assume this isn't supposed to happen as I can't find any reference to it anywhere. I just embraced the Quarra leader which was a bit strange. When an embraced vampire wakes up three days later they act like any other embraced NPC. They do end up with a different head though. It's still a vampire head and still right for their race, but different than the one they had before the embrace. I use Vardenfell Visages as a head replacer and the pre-embrace heads are correct for that. No clue where the changed ones are coming from.

Third, my head keeps randomly vanishing. Putting a helmet on for a second fixes it, but just kinda weird.

My load list.

_001_ Morrowind.esm
_002_ Tribunal.esm
_003_ Bloodmoon.esm
_004_ Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
_005_ Morrowind Advanced.esm
_006_ GDR_MasterFile.esm
_007_ H.E.L.L.U.V.A._Merchant_Containers.esm
_008_ Hilgya the Seamstress.esm
_009_ Rise of House Telvanni.esm
_010_ MCA.esp
_011_ HELLUVA Complete Weapons.esp
_012_ Creatures.esp
_013_ Infernal SummoningV1.1.esp
_014_ Pegasus Estate BETA.esp
_015_ Faction tweaks.esp
_016_ Illuminated Order v1.0.esp
_017_ Illuminated Order v1.0 - Bloodmoon Compatibility Extras.esp
_018_ Bob's Armory 2.esp
_019_ MW_Adv_Required.esp
_020_ Better Bodies.esp
_021_ Werewolf_Evolution.esp
_022_ Vampire_Werewolf.esp
_023_ Teleportation Spells.esp
_024_ Amulet of Scrye.esp
_025_ NG_New_Carnithus'_Armamentarium.esp
_026_ dej_plain_paper_fix.esp
_027_ GCD_WE_patch.esp
_028_ Clean Death's Doorstep.esp
_029_ XACC.esp
_030_ ASH 2.0.esp
_031_ Pegas Horse Ranch v3.1.esp
_032_ Nightmare.esp
_033_ Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
_034_ Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
_035_ Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
_036_ BB_Clothiers_of_Vvardenfell_v1.1.esp
_037_ Louis_BeautyShop_v1.5.esp
_038_ Visceral Discernment.esp
_039_ Soul Gems For Sale.esp
_040_ Fortify Skill.esp
_041_ GAC_ replacer.esp
_042_ Enhanced Summoning.esp
_043_ Spect Sorcery pt 1.esp
_044_ Corean_Hair_in_Morrowind.esp
_045_ ProjectileStoreAndSpeed.esp
_046_ Better Telekinesis.esp
_047_ H.E.L.L.U.V.A._A.A._MEDIUM 1.0.esp
_048_ H.E.L.L.U.V.A._A.A._LIGHT 1.0.esp
_049_ H.E.L.L.U.V.A._A.A._Heavy 1.0.esp
_050_ H.E.L.L.U.V.A._A.A._Recolors_1.0.esp
_051_ Hilgya the Seamstress Expansion 1.esp
_052_ Building Up Uvirith's Legacy1.1.ESP
_053_ mel_teleportPlugin_1_3.esp
_054_ MCA - COV Addon.esp
_055_ Fliggerty's Artifacts.esp
_056_ Elemental Magicka 1.0.esp
_057_ Better Clothes_v1.1_nac.esp
_058_ More Better Clothes.ESP
_059_ CliffRacersV1.esp
_060_ MCA 6 - H.E.L.L.U.V.A. Wicked Weapons.esp
_061_ Suran_Underworld_v3.ESP
_062_ Hostile Attackers Low Density 5.0.esp
_063_ Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp
_064_ UFR_v3dot2_noRobe.esp
_065_ IceNioLivRobeReplacerALL.esp
_066_ Syc_AtHomeAlchemy.esp
_067_ MTT_IV_Master.esp
_068_ MTT4 Necro Tweaks.esp
_069_ less annoying bonewalkers.esp
_070_ mage friendly daedra.esp
_071_ PCL Mage Friendly Creatures.esp
_072_ Mage Friendly Tribunal.esp
_073_ Mage Friendly Bloodmoon.esp
_074_ Atronach Expansion X.ESP
_075_ GCD v1.08 with Startscript, fixed [Galsiah].esp
_076_ Scripted_Spells.esp
_077_ GCD_SS_patch.esp
_078_ Vampire_Embrace.esp
_079_ Vampire_Embrace-jms_combat_bite_patch.esp
_080_ ve_comp_control.esp
_081_ Vampiric Hunger Base.esp
_082_ Vampiric Hunger Extended.esp
_083_ Vampiric Hunger - SU.esp
_084_ VH_Bloodreport.esp
_085_ True_Lights_And_Darkness_1.0-NoDaylight.esp
_086_ Uvirith's Legacy_Final_2.0.esp
_087_ UL_MWSE_patch.esp
_088_ UL v2.0 RoHT v1.52 Compatibility.esp
_089_ Uvirith's Legacy Book Jackets Add-on.esp
_090_ DN-GDRv1.esp
_091_ Syc_HerbalismforPurists (Pearl Bug Edit).esp
_092_ Syc_HerbalismforPurists_BM.esp
_093_ Syc_HerbalismforPurists_TB.esp
_094_ Mashed Lists.esp


Thanks for any help anyone can give. Very minor issues, but I feel they may be clues to a bigger problem.

I'd first recommend running your mod list through http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1167004-relz-mlox-a-tool-for-anolyzing-and-sorting-your-load-order/. It highlighted some issues (running patch plugins without the mods the patch patches etc) and made some alterations to your load order.

Give that a whirl and see if it helps. Otherwise please re-post your amended mod list and the contents of your warnings.txt (if any).

Thanks Dragon32. I ran it through mlox earlier and it doesn't find any real problems. The patch issues are from running an alternate GCD, MCA being converted to an ESP and a file size difference from editing, and SU being newer than the VH SU patch. The load order that mlox proposes doesn't really work for me. VH and the SS patch need to Override GCD as far as I know for instance.

Also ran through the conflict detector with no conflicts other than what's done by design and a few creature sound conflicts between Pegas HR, Pegasus Estate, Creatures, and VE that shouldn't bother anything.

Gonna just go through every plugin and see if I can track anything down. No issues are a big deal though, so if I can't figure it out I'll just refrain from turning vamps into vamps and keep a helmet handy.

After going through every plugin to no avail, I just started a new game and it seems to be working correctly now. Save must've got strangely corrupted somewhere along the line I guess. Weird.

Yes, odd. Glad you got it working though. My mistake too for not properly reading your modlist and just running it through mlox. I should've picked up on the MCA.esm --> MCA.esp thing, etc.