I've been cathcing up on all the threads here . . . and I must say that I am amazed at the amount of problems people are having on the PS3. My first playthrough and I just hit level 25. The game has crashed on me only 4 times so far . . . no areas that I can't access, no lost companions. The game runs great!

Sure, there are some minor things here and there - an enemy gets stuck in a wall or tent, Rex has attacked "friendlies" out of nowhere sometimes (maybe he just doesn't like their hats) and even when I remove the explosive from the monorail, the thing blows up anyway . . .

So, I am wondering how much is Bethesda and how much is the individual PS3. Me? I decided to buy a brand new PS3 (my first) just to play Fallout: New Vegas. Nothing else installed on it ever. Game saves? I have about 20 - I tend to save every 15-20 minutes of real time. I am bewildered at how many have stated they lost 12 hours of game time!

So, my bugs are minor and to be expected . . . crashes few and far between and no gamebreakers so far . . . Anyone else?

for me PC runs beautifully I completed the game twice and just like you only 4 crashes and minor bugs, a few that made me laugh

I got a LOT of freezes and various performances issues, but nothing like the worst I heard. I don't think I ever had quest issues, or I was never locked
out of someplace or some quest. So yeah, I got pissed off often and I had to reload a lot, but I still managed to finish my 80 hour game.
Now I'm just waiting for a patch to start another playtrough and, hopefully, the major problem I had will be fixed.

So I guess I got it worst than some people, but my issues were only performance and fluidity related. I still won't replay untile
FNV runs like my copy of F3.

I felt just like you until my game decided it will not load my save at all any more. I only had probably 2 crashes in about 30 hours and the game didn't even crash right before the problem. Usually a crash will mess up your save causing it not to load. Mine wasn't due to crashing so I don't know what the problem was. Now I don't even feel like starting over.

Hmm. Just one save? That's rough, but why not create a bank of 10 or 20 saves. Save every 15 to 30 minutes and cycle through so you aren't always overwriting the same save. You want to be in a situation where the absolute worst is you loose an hour of playtime (even that is excessive).

I save on a different save file every time I save. When I'm done playing, I delete all the saves but one or two. It keeps my data clean
and I never had any save problem with either FNV or F3.

Only?

Let me see. On my PS3 I've played:

Bioshock 1 and 2

Deadspace

Dante's Inferno

Red Dead Redemption

Bayonetta

Uncharted 2

Assassin's Creed 2

Dragon Age Origins and Awakenings

Devil May Cry 4

GTA 4

The Force Unleashed

FFXIII

Batman Arkham Asylum

Infamous


And you know what? I don't recall one black screen, or one lock up in any one of those games. Not one. Nada - none, zilch. Certainly I never had to visit any of their gaming forums to find out what was going on because I was having such problems playing my game.

But you've had "only" 4 crashes ? WOW! That's AWESOME!

FONV is the first game I've encountered on a *console* that locks up/freezes/black screens (and I am not including the other quest/companion bugs the game has) - not only 4 times, but over and over and over and over (in fact it just happened to me again in the Mire Lurk King cave.)

Still - only 4 crashes on your console - that's pretty good!

You are not alone OP. I am having a great time with my PS3 and yes I have had my share of lockups. Nothing horrible but they are there. I just don't get people bashing on the PS3 all the time. It has the most stable and high-end hardware available in any console on the market. The issues with FO3 and FO:NV are just software issues. Some of them can be patched and some can't. FO3 had/has some lock up issues but NV is quite a bit worse, that says to me that NV has specific problems that can be patched. It will never be perfect that is true but, seriously people, stop the hate.

This forum is for Playstation 3 hardware/software issues, so I'm not sure what the purpose of this thread is...

But I will engage your topic. Your good fortune of being able to play this game without incident so far does not excuse the horrible experience many of us are having. In my particular case, The Strip won't load unless I equip the Old Cowboy Hat; I have to fire my companion before I enter a casino, or their weapons will be transferred to me upon exiting - even if they're waiting outside; And most recently, the game freezes if I so much as look at Gomorrah, so I can longer progress in the story.

Now I've also been lucky in some cases. I was able to complete the Oh My Papa quest with very little incident, but I understand that many folks simply can't - halting their own progress in the story. And my good fortune doesn't mean I don't care whether Bethesda decides to fix the Oh My Papa quest.

So if you aren't having hardware or software issues with this game and don't care if the rest of us are having the same experience, I see no reason for you to be on this forum. And hozrhayt, we're not "hating" on Bethesda. We're trying to get them to deliver a $60 experience which we've paid for yet haven't received. If you're having a $60 experience with this game, I'm happy for you, but you have no business telling us to stop demanding honest solutions to our legitimate grievances.

Also, for your information, I already started a thread with a poll asking if anyone has been able to fully complete one of the story-arcs.

25 said yes.
4 said they were working on it.
28 said that glitches and bugs had utterly halted their progress.

Additionally, many who reported that they had been able to beat the game qualified that by saying that it took a maddening level of dedication due to the myriad bugs in their way. So although some were able to see the whole story, and some were even able to get the Platinum Trophy, a very significant number of us cannot even finish this game once. Again, enjoy your good luck without attempting to delegitimize our complaints.

Relax. I am not teling anyone that they don't have legitimate grievances. But . . . "lack" of the same software issues is relevant, don't you think? If there is a bug, then it should affect everyone. Serious lockup issues, black screens, regular crashes . . . a forum like this naturally will bring the out the stories of those who are having the worst experience . . . but I have read many posts here and have done exactly what others have and I am not getting the same negative results.

Is it system specific? Like I said, I have a brand new, never before used PS3. The chance of hard drive corruption is pretty much not existent . . . generation of PS3 is the most recent. These kinds of things might contribute. PS3 is not a PC, so why would it affect some to great detriment and others to only a few minor inconveniences? I think that is at least worthy of a topic.

. . . And I do sympathize with the negative experience others are having. These days, I have almost no time for gaming . . . in the past few years, the only game I have made time for is Fallout 3 and now Fallout New Vegas. I'd be pissed off if I had the number of lockouts others are having! I would probably just pack the game away and not bother anymore out of frustration and anger.

First, I'm very glad that you've been able get as much enjoyment as you have with as few problems as you have. As I'm sure you've noticed from some of the replies above, not all of us have been quite as lucky. I, myself, bought the game on release day (19 October) and pouredhttp://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i181/rainmagick/DSCF2978.jpg before I started seeing any problems what-so-ever. Then, my game started freezing.

The problem worsened until the game was completely unplayable ... by that, I mean that my PS3 would lock-up/freeze/crash. The intervals were random - anywhere from 10 minutes to an hour. The locations were random - out in the Wasteland, on the Strip, at a Ranger Station, you name it.

Now, I tried everything.
I mean every single thing I could think of and http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1131463-bugs-glitches-and-other-mishaps-can-go-here/page__p__16576395__fromsearch__1&#entry16576395. I basically reached the point to where I was more than ready to pitch the game disc out the window and forget it ever existed. I'm joking, of course, but I was seriously going to sell NV to Gamestop and just cut my losses. My b/f convinced me to wait and he ended up buying us new PS3 (160GB Slim) since we had been planning on it (so we can play against each other on-line) anyway.

We've been very fortunate in that we have both now been able to play through to completion. I'm now 50+ hours in to my second character (on this system) and he's about 15 or so hours in to his second. On our new system, we have both experienced lock-ups and crashes but nothing on the order of what was happening on my old 60GB Fat system. Neither of us have experienced any quest-breaking bugs but that's only because the people in these forums have been good enough to document them and we know to either avoid the problem areas or how to approach the quest without triggering the bugs.

My point in telling you all of this is to stress that I have seen this issue from both perspectives. To this day, I have no idea why FO:NV won't run on my 60GB, even after reformatting. I have no idea why it runs as well as it does on our 160GB, though I'm with Seena in that even one or two ... let alone dozens ... lock-ups is too much for a console game.

Again, I applaud the fact that you've had so few problems. I also feel that you have every right (not that you need my permission or anything, lol!) to post your experiences in the forums. I think Bethesda and Obsidian need this type of feedback just as much as they need the negative. However, seeing as you mentioned that you took the time to catch up on the threads in this sub-forum, I hope you realize that tensions are running very high and I hope you won't take some of the replies too personally.

A lot of us are tired of the borderline silence and what seems to be a complete lack of regard for PS3 players on the part of Beth/Obsidian. I'm sure it only seems that way to us but between always being listed last among the systems, having a patch released soley for the PC and the DLC being X-Box exclusive (for now) ... well, it comes across to many of us as the PS3 being the red-headed step-child.

Anyway, best of luck.

I hardly see the point when the problem is most likely due to something within the game other than the problem being caused by my game crashing (much like the whole McCafferty's hat problem). What I mean is, if my problem isn't due to a corrupted save file, which i don't see how it could be due to auto save being disabled and the last crash being a week before the problem, then every save on that playthrough is likely to have the same fate.

No, bugs don't affect everyone.

I don't get why people are claiming that the PS3 version of the game is the worst. I've been reading on the PC and XBOX forums and
I can tell you it's exactly the same problems, maybe even worse in some case. So blaming the PS3, or saying these problems only occur on
it is a load of crap. I'd still like to know why some people have a perfect painless experience while others can't play.

I'm glad you've been able to play Fallout:NV without too many issues.

Not OP, but I see this a lot: I really hate when members of this board claim that these bugs do not exist, or are exaggerated. This is not the case, and to claim so completely invalidates their credibility. Any other purchased good could be returned if the buyer experienced this level of basic functionality failures. Unfortunately at this point in time, you cannot do this with software on a disc.

These are the bugs I have experienced in 30 hours of gameplay.

- Had at least 25 PS3 full-locks and 1 crash to PS3 XMB.
- Constant drops in framerate and second-long hangups
- Unresponsive controls (I can't count how many times I've tried to shoot or open up VATS and nothing happens until I mash the buttons for several seconds)
- Damage does not register with a direct hit (not the too-close-to-hit issue)
- Flashing textures
- Visual artifacts appearing out of nowhere and disappearing
- Widespread clipping issues with entities throughout the entire game (I love how when I touch things, everything around it slowly floats up a few inches)
- NPC's spawning halfway or sometimes completely in the ground
- Unresponsive NPC's (Not being able to talk to them when I should be able to, enemies wandering blindly with no reaction to me being near or shooting at them)

I have only had 2 other games give my PS3 any issues. RDR had a single in game freeze (could still quit), which was patched within a few days.
Fallout 3: GOTY started freezing when my game save got too large, maybe 4 or 5 times over 100 hrs.

I was hesitant to buy this game sight unseen, as F3:GOTY did give me a few issues, but I never expected Fallout:NV to have this many issues. It's a shame, good game too. Nowadays I have to stop walking every 5 seconds in the wasteland, or risk my system locking up for the 27th time...

I have had each and every one of those issues as well. But, except for the crashing and black screen (unable to exit Lucky 38, lost over 14 hours of game play) - I haven't complained about them because they were more "irritants" than game breakers.

stop the hate? that's hilarious. we both know if you were having the same problems as the majority of us here are having you would be singing a very different tune my friend. what boggles my mind about those of you who have not had to deal with game breaking bugs and glitches, then how the hell could you even begin to understand our frustration? listen, it's great that you have not had any of these game breaking bugs, but that in no way gives you the right to lecture the rest of us about are anger and rage toward having a broken a game, and being unable to complete quests, enter certain area's, and not even be able to get close to completing this train wreck of a game. we have every right to be angry and pissed off, here you have these jag-offs at Bethesda releasing an add-on pack for the XBOX 360, while we are still waiting for this [censored] patch that they promised us. i myself, am locked out of the strip-COMPLETELY, am 'idolized' by the NCR, yet at all the camps i go to, i am attacked, REGARDLESS of what armor i am wearing, as well as having these moronic 'invisible walls' that prevent me from going into certain area's that i should be able to go to, thus ruining a [censored]load of quests as well as preventing me from even doing the main quest, and you say "stop the hate"? as i said, i am glad that you are getting along fine with your version of NV, but a lot of us are not, and we have every right to be very pissed off and angry about Bethesda taking the time to develop an add-on to the XBOX, while just taking their sweet ass time to release a patch that we should not even have had to need to begin with, so instead of judging us, maybe ask yourself how you would be feeling if you had the problems that many of us are.

You did read the words PS3 didn't you? He is not asking about PCs.


I am not one of those without problems. I can't complete Oh My Papa, due to the Melissa glitch.

ED-E was destroyed by an explosion, and not has vanished, (I am not playing hardcoe mode.) and this is another known glitch. No, the Vault 22 elevator trick has not worked. I can't get Rex now either or do his questline, because of this.

Raul will not finish the Ranger Andy part of his freequest, and thus I can't finish that.

Now, due to the fact that ED-E is 'still' with me, I can't enter Ceasars tent because I can't make him wait outside.

I freeze on occasion. There is the first wandering merchant you run into at the Mojave Outpost who I can't buy from as it freezes the game.
Boone froze the game during his quest everytime I headed to Coyote Tail.


Heaven knows what else will go wrong. They really need to patch this game.

this is PS3 hardware issues genius, not PC issues.

WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! Calm down man! No one is judging you for being torqued about the current state of the game. I was talking about hate against the PS3 specifically. For some reason people want to claim that the hardware is at issue when it is a simple case of software error. Yeah NV is in piss poor condition for a huge chunk of us. Not all but a good portion. Yeah Obsidian needs to step up and fix this...or really lose the support of the fans. Bethesda isn't really at fault here other than being the publisher. The Devs should be the ones to feel the venom man. Even then...keep it civil. Things could be much much worse.

Sum minor lags and bugs. Only mysterious disappearance of Rex from Lucky 38, bug that I can't enter Miguel's Pawn Shop and numerous crashes are annoying. At least save files doesn't corrupt...

I haven't had any major problems either, but I'm waiting until the patch to fix a bug that doesn't let you persuade the FotA to support the NCR. I also just read a forum about a major problem with getting stuck in Hoover Dam during the final quest in the NCR line. BTW, does anybody (maybe a member of Obsidian) know if these things actually do get fixed in the PS3 patch, or if there's a workaround on the PS3 like with Raul's quest?

I'm with you, friend. I haven't had any major problems (aside from the occasional lockup), but I knew from the a certain point (after viewing these forums) that I was playing on borrowed time, because a few simple choices had already doomed me to scripting error-related roadblocks. Excluding Caesar's Legion-related quests (since I walked into the Fort pretty early in the game and murdered everyone for giggles, and to get a better end to "Return to Sender"), I have been attempting to complete every side quest in the game, and less than 24 hours ago, I finally ran out of them. The only one I could not do is Raul's (due to nonchalantly learning Ranger Andy's Ranger Takedown skill at around level 4, where I had no idea what I was doing and CERTAINLY didn't know it would prevent me from completing Raul's quest do to massive-fail-scripting-error), but I set that aside until the patch. Now, with the patch still not only not out but with no word from Bethesda (who I wouldn't be so annoyed at if they would just talk to us), I have finally hit the other roadblock I knew was coming: The Oh My Papa scripting error, where Melissa in nowhere to be found due to having completed "Don't Make a Beggar out of Me" and saving moments before reading about the problem online (which resulted in a minute and a half of cursing).

I now can only wait for the patch, for while glitches and bugs only spur me to play and find workarounds (being a relatively patient person with games due to years of dealing with a laggy internet connection and thus not particularly caring about freezes), there is nothing I can do against scripting errors, forcing me to sorrowfully put aside this favored game that I have put so many hours into until a patch is released. Hopefully it will be soon.

Also, did you say there was a workaround to Raul's quest, BeardManly? Is it one I could use? If so, for the love of God, tell me.

Sorry. The workaround I'm talking about is just avoiding talking to Ranger Andy until you have Raul with you, which I found out about beforehand. So unless you want to start over, you're kinda screwed. Let another minute and a half of cursing commence.