Problems in Chorrol : IV

» Wed May 09, 2012 2:22 am

I'm running a heavily modded setup at the moment and it is working quite stable and all, but I noticed issues occuring in Chorrol. First, there was a bunch of Marauders and a Daedra spawned in front of the Chorrol Castle which the guards had to take out (Refscope pointed to The Hole as being responsible for that) and then the South Gate out of Chorrol leads to an area called the Basemant which is just a empty cell which causes a CTD for me after a couple of seconds (I cleaned out all of the mods with TES4EDIT before I started the game, or atleast I believe I did...) Does anyone know which mod here could be causing this change? Refscope was no help as it just said that the Town Gate was from Oblivion.esm. Here is my load order as well. Oh and another thing to note was that the dogs that follow around that women (forget her name) were both hostile and I found them dead outside Northern Goods & Trade. The other gates out of town such as the North Gate lead to the correct worldspace so it is just the South Gate.

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
DibellasWatch.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Fundament.esm
Oblivifall Master File.esm
The Arsenal.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOPS Additional Changes.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
USIPS Additional Changes.esp
LoadingScreens.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Immersive Interiors.esp
OBGE - Liquid Water.esp
Better Bell Sounds.esp
Idle Dialogue.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
NBB.esp
Paladin.esp
Personality Idles - Modified version.esp
Enhanced Economy.esp
Bard of Cyrodiil 2.0.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
Dynamic Map.esp
Map Marker Overhaul.esp
Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
The Arsenal.esp
The Arsenal - Ancient Ayleid Weaponry.esp
The Arsenal - Leveled Lists.esp
The Arsenal - Mercenary Weaponry.esp
Vvardenfell_Imports.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
Slof's Extra Horses.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp
WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0b.esp
WAC.esp
WAC - OverSpawn.esp
WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp
WAC - Dead Knights.esp
WAC - Dead Knights Fix.esp
WAC - Player Summons.esp
WAC - Birds&Insects.esp
WAC - Companions.esp
WAC - Horses.esp
WAC - TCOS.esp
WAC - TCOS Shops.esp
WAC - TCOSFix4v1.0b.esp
WAC - 8th Gate.esp
WAC - Legion.esp
WAC - Gladiator.esp
WAC - Magic.esp
GrayFoxOutfit.esp
Ivellon.esp
Trade and Commerce.esp
Ancient Ruins - Ayleid Edition.esp
Anduril Reforged.esp
Armageddon.esp
BeastHeadInn.esp
BeyondTheRealmsOfDeath.esp
BladeOfTheHaunted.esp
BHC_Expanded.esp
HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed.esp
Butcher.esp
Council of Mages Reconvened.esp
DibellasWatchAdditions.esp
_Faithless_EV.esp
Fighters Guild Quests.esp
FiveBlindMiceBeta.esp
GoldenCrest.esp
GoldenCrestBattlehornComp.esp
House Valranis.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp
Insomonias Ruins.esp
Jail Break Escape Routes.esp
JQ-Return_of_Dagoth_Ur.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
Legends - Baleful Eye.esp
LordKain_Adash_World.esp
Mages Guild Quests.esp
Mehrunes Maze.esp
Northern Front.esp
GTAesgaard.esp
Punk Stevo - Brutal Underground.esp
qNS3-inventrix.esp
QOTW021.esp
QOTW Season One.esp
TheHole.esp
The Kingdom of Shadow test1.esp
TheWellOfMinlorada.esp
TheForgottenShields.esp
TQ1-loveletters.esp
tq3-Blood-and-Gold.esp
Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
VHBloodlines 1.2.esp
Vampire Hunting Bloodlines Patch.esp
WOTFH_1.3.esp
FHWS.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
AFK_ICTempleCleanup.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp
MoreSuburbLife.esp
MannimarcoRevisited.esp
ReclaimSancreTor.esp
road+bridges.esp
Fighters Guild Quests - Roads and Bridges Patch.esp
Better daedric shrines full.esp
Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp
Oblivifall - Losing My Religion Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp
Unique Forts Fort Strand.esp
Unique Forts Gold Coast.esp
Faregyl.esp
The Arsenal - Faregyl Patch.esp
Feldscar.esp
Molapi.esp
Reedstand.esp
Urasek.esp
Vergayun.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
WAC-ULdarkforest-patch.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
WAC-ULchorrolhinterland-patch.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
WAC - xulBCLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
NicVBetterBeggars-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
RST+Cloudtop Mountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
RST+Skingrad Outskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
RST+Cliffs of Anvil.esp
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp
xulJerallGlacier.esp
GatesToAesgaardEp1-JerallGlacier patch.esp
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp
NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp
BetterDaedricShrinesFull-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp
GoldenCrest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
ImpeREAL Forts + Silverfish River Patch.esp
RST+Unique Forts Patch.esp
BrinaCrossVillage.esp
Brina Cross Village--Unique Forts Patch.esp
Frostcrag Village.esp
Sutch Village.esp
LostCoast + SutchVillage Patch.esp
Sutch Village Mehrunes Maze Patch.esp
RST+Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Abandoned House.esp
Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
ROM Drop Lit Torches.esp
ExpandedGreetings.esp
Golden Perch Inn.esp
Golden Perch Inn - AN Patch.esp
Realistic Hatred.esp
Alternative Beginnings.esp
Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp
BFG's Enhanced Armory.esp
Duke Patricks - Melee Combat NO RECOIL.esp
Bundlement.esp
nGCD.esp
nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp
Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp
Really Immersive Messages.esp
Think to Yourself.esp
WAC - NoMapMarker.esp
RefScope.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
DynamicLeveledLists.esp

» Tue May 08, 2012 3:57 pm

I'm running a heavily modded setup at the moment and it is working quite stable and all, but I noticed issues occuring in Chorrol. First, there was a bunch of Marauders and a Daedra spawned in front of the Chorrol Castle which the guards had to take out (Refscope pointed to The Hole as being responsible for that) and then the South Gate out of Chorrol leads to an area called the Basemant which is just a empty cell which causes a CTD for me after a couple of seconds (I cleaned out all of the mods with TES4EDIT before I started the game, or atleast I believe I did...) Does anyone know which mod here could be causing this change? Refscope was no help as it just said that the Town Gate was from Oblivion.esm. Here is my load order as well. Oh and another thing to note was that the dogs that follow around that women (forget her name) were both hostile and I found them dead outside Northern Goods & Trade. The other gates out of town such as the North Gate lead to the correct worldspace so it is just the South Gate.

Spoiler

Oblivion.esm
DibellasWatch.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Waalx Animals & Creatures.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Fundament.esm
Oblivifall Master File.esm
The Arsenal.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOPS Additional Changes.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
USIPS Additional Changes.esp
LoadingScreens.esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Immersive Interiors.esp
OBGE - Liquid Water.esp
Better Bell Sounds.esp
Idle Dialogue.esp
Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
NBB.esp
Paladin.esp
Personality Idles - Modified version.esp
Enhanced Economy.esp
Bard of Cyrodiil 2.0.esp
Streamline 3.1.esp
Dynamic Map.esp
Map Marker Overhaul.esp
Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil - Mehrune's Razor Add-On.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
The Arsenal.esp
The Arsenal - Ancient Ayleid Weaponry.esp
The Arsenal - Leveled Lists.esp
The Arsenal - Mercenary Weaponry.esp
Vvardenfell_Imports.esp
Slof's Horses Base.esp
Slof's Extra Horses.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil - Thieves' Den Add-On.esp
WAC - ItemLootFix4v1.0b.esp
WAC.esp
WAC - OverSpawn.esp
WAC - BlackBootDungeon.esp
WAC - Dead Knights.esp
WAC - Dead Knights Fix.esp
WAC - Player Summons.esp
WAC - Birds&Insects.esp
WAC - Companions.esp
WAC - Horses.esp
WAC - TCOS.esp
WAC - TCOS Shops.esp
WAC - TCOSFix4v1.0b.esp
WAC - 8th Gate.esp
WAC - Legion.esp
WAC - Gladiator.esp
WAC - Magic.esp
GrayFoxOutfit.esp
Ivellon.esp
Trade and Commerce.esp
Ancient Ruins - Ayleid Edition.esp
Anduril Reforged.esp
Armageddon.esp
BeastHeadInn.esp
BeyondTheRealmsOfDeath.esp
BladeOfTheHaunted.esp
BHC_Expanded.esp
HackdirtTheDeepOnes.esp
BrotherhoodRenewed.esp
Butcher.esp
Council of Mages Reconvened.esp
DibellasWatchAdditions.esp
_Faithless_EV.esp
Fighters Guild Quests.esp
FiveBlindMiceBeta.esp
GoldenCrest.esp
GoldenCrestBattlehornComp.esp
House Valranis.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Castles - All The Castles - Merged.esp
Insomonias Ruins.esp
Jail Break Escape Routes.esp
JQ-Return_of_Dagoth_Ur.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt Weather Patch.esp
Legends - Baleful Eye.esp
LordKain_Adash_World.esp
Mages Guild Quests.esp
Mehrunes Maze.esp
Northern Front.esp
GTAesgaard.esp
Punk Stevo - Brutal Underground.esp
qNS3-inventrix.esp
QOTW021.esp
QOTW Season One.esp
TheHole.esp
The Kingdom of Shadow test1.esp
TheWellOfMinlorada.esp
TheForgottenShields.esp
TQ1-loveletters.esp
tq3-Blood-and-Gold.esp
Vampire Hunting - Order of the Virtuous Blood.esp
VHBloodlines 1.2.esp
Vampire Hunting Bloodlines Patch.esp
WOTFH_1.3.esp
FHWS.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
AFK_ICTempleCleanup.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Sounds of Cyrodiil - KOTN Add-on.esp
MoreSuburbLife.esp
MannimarcoRevisited.esp
ReclaimSancreTor.esp
road+bridges.esp
Fighters Guild Quests - Roads and Bridges Patch.esp
Better daedric shrines full.esp
Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp
Oblivifall - Losing My Religion Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Oblivifall - Losing My Religion KOTN.esp
Unique Forts Fort Strand.esp
Unique Forts Gold Coast.esp
Faregyl.esp
The Arsenal - Faregyl Patch.esp
Feldscar.esp
Molapi.esp
Reedstand.esp
Urasek.esp
Vergayun.esp
xuldarkforest.esp
WAC-ULdarkforest-patch.esp
xulStendarrValley.esp
xulTheHeath.esp
XulEntiusGorge.esp
xulFallenleafEverglade.esp
xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp
xulChorrolHinterland.esp
WAC-ULchorrolhinterland-patch.esp
xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp
WAC - xulBCLostCoast.esp
xulBravilBarrowfields.esp
NicVBetterBeggars-BravilBarrowfields patch.esp
xulLushWoodlands.esp
xulAncientYews.esp
xulAncientRedwoods.esp
xulCloudtopMountains.esp
RST+Cloudtop Mountains.esp
xulArriusCreek.esp
xulPatch_AY_AC.esp
xulRollingHills_EV.esp
xulPantherRiver.esp
xulRiverEthe.esp
xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp
xulImperialIsle.esp
xulBlackwoodForest.esp
xulCheydinhalFalls.esp
KvatchRebuilt-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
DungeonsOfIvellon-CheydinhalFalls patch.esp
xulAspenWood.esp
xulSkingradOutskirts.esp
RST+Skingrad Outskirts.esp
xulSnowdale.esp
Feldscar+Snowdale Patch.esp
xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp
RST+Cliffs of Anvil.esp
xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp
xulJerallGlacier.esp
GatesToAesgaardEp1-JerallGlacier patch.esp
xulTheEasternPeaks.esp
NRB4+UL-II Patch.esp
BetterDaedricShrinesFull-UniqueLandscapes patch.esp
GoldenCrest-UniqueLandscapes Merged patch.esp
ImpeREAL Empire - Unique Forts.esp
ImpeREAL Forts + Silverfish River Patch.esp
RST+Unique Forts Patch.esp
BrinaCrossVillage.esp
Brina Cross Village--Unique Forts Patch.esp
Frostcrag Village.esp
Sutch Village.esp
LostCoast + SutchVillage Patch.esp
Sutch Village Mehrunes Maze Patch.esp
RST+Cheydinhal Falls.esp
Better Abandoned House.esp
Auto Update Leveled Items And Spells.esp
HUD Status Bars.esp
ROM Drop Lit Torches.esp
ExpandedGreetings.esp
Golden Perch Inn.esp
Golden Perch Inn - AN Patch.esp
Realistic Hatred.esp
Alternative Beginnings.esp
Alternative Beginnings - Kvatch Intact.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Duke Patricks - Combat Archery.esp
BFG's Enhanced Armory.esp
Duke Patricks - Melee Combat NO RECOIL.esp
Bundlement.esp
nGCD.esp
nGCD Oghma Infinium.esp
Vanilla_Race_Overhaul.esp
Really Immersive Messages.esp
Think to Yourself.esp
WAC - NoMapMarker.esp
RefScope.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
DynamicLeveledLists.esp

Did you use BOSS to sort the order? Try uninstalling the mod and see if the marauders and daedra are gone.

» Tue May 08, 2012 8:51 pm

I've not downloaded The Hole, but under comments on TES Nexus several mentions are made of it not being compatible with Reclaiming Sancre Tor. So that would be a good place to look first, as Refscope noted. Try dropping one, or the other--and see if the readme/manual for The Hole mentions this conflict.

If it does, I'll note what I've noted many times before: always, always RTFM.

» Tue May 08, 2012 6:49 pm

Thanks for the headsup about the incompatibility with Reclaiming Sancre Tor. Sadly, it appears that The Hole isn't responsible for the weirdness (Well except for those Marauders), nor is another mod I tried removing called Arena - Brutal Underground.

Edit - Ah found the problem. The mod "Faithless - The Shadow of Faith" is the one that edited the gate. Thanks for the help though guys