Problems with Thieves Guild

Post » Fri May 14, 2010 3:10 pm

For some reason no one related to the thieves guild has any topic in their list of topics other than rumors. For example when I go to jail and that lady comes to talk to me about the thieves guild she shows up but only says "greetings" or something like that and only the rumors topic is listed. So I console commanded myself into starting the "may the best thief win" quest. The other two thieves run off and I beat them to the diary and my journal is updated. But when I go back to the guy to finish the quest the only topic is rumors. I am using FCOM and other mods, I think some of them might influence the thieves guild. I know I have the "you need to sell more stolen items before you can progress further in the thieves guild quest" mod but should that do this? Does anyone know what the solution to my problem is?

The people greet me with the usual "Greetings blah blah blah" stuff. Then when the topic pop up the only one available is rumors and nothing else. Usually the quest dialogue would be like "Oh so you were able to steal the dairy.... You are now a full member of the thieves guild... your next task is to....." and then there would be a topic like "Next quest" or something I would click on to start the next quest. It's just not there and the only greeting I get from anyone on the thieves guild is the regular you talk to a random person not related to any quest greetings, and there are no topics to start the other quests.

I'm not sure if this is just related to the thieves guild. I know random people not related to quests have other topic like "Gray Fox" and "Heronimus Lex" and I can still go and shop at shops. Even the beggars don't have the "have a coin" option, and they talk to me like a regular person, not with the beggar greeting.

I also do not know if other guilds have this problem. I joined the mages guild far enough to make spells and enchantments, then I stopped. I haven't gone back for a while and so I do not know if the mages guild will have this problem (or other guilds for that matter) I'll look into that and see if this problem is more widespread then I originally thought.

Has anyone else had this problem and does anyone know what to do? I have played this game many times and this problem has never occurred so I think it is a problem with on of my mods. The only major mod that I have installed that I have never used before is FCOM. Has anyone had any quest problems with the thieves guild and FCOM before? Thanks.
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Matt Terry
 
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Post » Fri May 14, 2010 8:32 pm

Sounds like a problem many people had with an early version of Ren's Guard Overhaul. Are you using it? Is it updated past version 2.04?
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Melanie Steinberg
 
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Post » Fri May 14, 2010 5:41 pm

I don't think I'm using Ren's Guard Overhaul. It's not a esp that I have selected, could it be part of FCOM or another mod?
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mishionary
 
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Post » Fri May 14, 2010 4:28 pm

Post your load order, preferrably using WryeBash.
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Eliza Potter
 
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Post » Fri May 14, 2010 6:29 pm

Its a little long, sorry. Also I was made through OBMM:

Oblivion.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
Mart's Monster Mod.esm
FCOM_Convergence.esm
Kvatch Rebuilt.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
FCOM_Francescos.esp
FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp
FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp
MoveQuestItems - OBSE.esp
Reznod_Mannequin.esp
Map Marker Overhaul.esp
Expanded Hotkeys and Spell Delete V2.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
Sauron_Armor_Chest.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
FCOM_BobsArmory.esp
Oblivion WarCry EV.esp
FCOM_WarCry.esp
Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
OOO-Water_Weeds.esp
OOO-No_Guild_Ownership.esp
FCOM_Convergence.esp
FCOM_RealSwords.esp
FCOM_SpawnRatesStronger.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Less Bone Loot.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Vindasel.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp
allinonebasemant.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - OOO Compatibility.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt - Leveled Guards - FCOM.esp
M.O.E. - Tools of Kagrenac - The Secret of White Gold Tower.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCfrostcrag.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
The Lost Spires.esp
Mighty Umbra.esp
Lost Paladins of the Divines.esp
FCOM_Knights.esp
Harvest [Flora].esp
Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp
Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp
Bag of Holding.esp
M.O.E. - Bone Names and Priced Skull.esp
P1DkeyChain.esp
Short Grass V3.esp
Toggleable Quantity Prompt.esp
Quest Award Leveller.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Midas OscuroGems.esp
Midas Reduced Costs Half.esp
Midas Betterholy.esp
FrostcragMidasLab.esp
Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp
OOO-Level_Stock.esp
Mart's Monster Mod - Resized Races.esp
DemonRace.esp
Sonia.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
anduril.esp
UnlimitedTraining.esp
Map Marker Overhaul - SI additions.esp
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Scotties Hottie
 
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Post » Fri May 14, 2010 4:57 pm

did you move from the SI to the vanilla worldspace in any way other than the normal way?
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Tom
 
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Post » Fri May 14, 2010 1:26 pm

I might have done the fast travel to Frostcraig Spire spell given in Frostcraig reborn, in fact I think I did. Is that the problem? And if so, is there a way to fix it?
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Carys
 
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Post » Fri May 14, 2010 5:49 pm

I might have done the fast travel to Frostcraig Spire spell given in Frostcraig reborn, in fact I think I did. Is that the problem? And if so, is there a way to fix it?


Yep. Just go back to the strange door on the little island, and go thru it, Pass back into the tamriel worldspace if that is where you currently have business.
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Emily Jones
 
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Post » Fri May 14, 2010 3:01 pm

Yep. Just go back to the strange door on the little island, and go thru it, Pass back into the tamriel worldspace if that is where you currently have business.


If that was the issue, though, wouldn't he be getting the "I HAVE NO GREETING" text? And wouldn't it be affecting all NPCs, not just thieves guild members? (Genuine questions, not trying to be sarcastic.)

Also, if it actually is the Shivering Isles issue, an easier way to fix it is to enter "setPlayerInSEWorld 0" at the console rather than traveling there and back.
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Post » Fri May 14, 2010 2:55 pm

I was finally able to play Oblivion and tried the SI fix and now it works. Thank you for the help, I was not expecting the solution to be so easy.
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