Seeing as there isn't a proper title, I'd rather this thread not be closed yet. It's still on-topic, since the program is the topic. Once a complete list (maybe in a few more days) is built of names a poll can be opened, or just one picked (polls don't usually help much).

But not the 'Request' though. Instead the 'Request' has more to become a new project.

Once we hit that point I'll post a front page poll on GHF. Be nice to get another set of opinions on it than those that only hang out around here.

You missed these suggested names:

TES Mod Magnet
Morrowind Mod Magnet

Unless they're so hideously subversive to warrant avoidance in a popular vote.

The request was for this project... I think the thread is still useful, so unless Skinjack wants it locked, I don't see a reason to.




That'll be nice, get a good idea. I think once I have a prototype copy working, we can go about putting up name polls.
I'm not sure, but do GHF mouths have the ability to put up those polls? Or does it have to be you or a magister?




I'm going to avoid the TES one, since this probably won't work with Oblivion. It may be possible to get that happening, but it's meant for Morrowind first.


Names:
Mod Alchemy - 1 vote
(Morrowind) Automated Mod Manager ( (M)AMM ) - 1 vote
Morrowind Automated Install Director - 3 votes
Morrowind Mods Organizer (Program) - 2ish votes
Morrowind Mod Magnet - 1 vote
MWModThingy - 1 vote
MWMatrix - 1 vote

I've been playing more with both installers and mlox. I may have to edit some of mlox to get it working, I'm having trouble passing it as a command line. I was able to get all the modules working, though (except wx, but that's not needed). At the moment I'm Googling to see if you can pass commandline parameters through (the classes exist but IronPYthon comes with no docs at all).
As far as the installer, I can extract an archive (using 7-zip for simple support for most of the formats MW mods use) and I'm working more on that at the moment.
I'm also working with Fligg's server to get a copy of the database there so a prototype of the app can be sent to some people for playing with. I'm not sure if it will be open to everyone to download, or by request, or how that'll be done.

Well there already is precedent for TES naming when the tool currently only works for Morrowind - e.g. TESTool, TESPCD, TESAME, tes3cmd

Yes you can.


Have you uploaded the entire database yet? Currently the db on the server is about 16mb, I thought I read somewhere that the total db is about 30mb.

I am of the opinion that this whole thing ought to be handled in the proper api fashion. I don't want to allow direct remote connections to the database. I think that it ought to use php generated XML files. I'll write a couple scripts to generate a few XML pages based upon what is in the database now. (You see what happens when I say I'm not going to involve myself in the development of these things? :banghead: )

About 50% of the mods on the database are Oblivion ones.


Don't know if you are interested, but the Zend Framework has a http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.soap.html, and there is also a http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.rest.html

The request was for this project... I think the thread is still useful, so unless Skinjack wants it locked, I don't see a reason to.

The thread limit of 200 posted replies, it's what I'm are worry about.


That'll be nice, get a good idea. I think once I have a prototype copy working, we can go about putting up name polls.
I'm not sure, but do GHF mouths have the ability to put up those polls? Or does it have to be you or a magister?

I'm going to avoid the TES one, since this probably won't work with Oblivion. It may be possible to get that happening, but it's meant for Morrowind first.


Names:
Mod Alchemy - 1 vote
(Morrowind) Automated Mod Manager ( (M)AMM ) - 1 vote
Morrowind Automated Install Director - 3 votes
Morrowind Mods Organizer (Program) - 2ish votes
Morrowind Mod Magnet - 1 vote
MWModThingy - 1 vote
MWMatrix - 1 vote


Why should we have 4 letters key-word for searching, I think 3 letters would be just fine, because most other MW related programs has 3 letters key-word for it. I also suggest that; Mod Alchemy, (Morrowind) Automated Mod Manager, Morrowind Mod Magnet and MWMatrix is deleted from the list of names, because of several reasons I've.

Here is the reasons:

Mod Alchemy - Too much is related to the structure many web-sites may have
(Morrowind) Automated Mod Manager - Both Automated or Automatic is a little unfriendly GUI-name and can be mistaking for the Morrowind Mod Manager instead
Morrowind Mod Magnet - The 3 letters key-word is exactly the same the Morrowind Mod Manager alreadly has
MWMatrix - The word Matrix is possible a direct conflict with already existing legal trademark (Sorry Skinjack, but I won't accept that name)


I've already suggested the Morrowind Mods Organizer -name, and more important for this project is that Yacoby support any MMO-name. If Fliggerty (maybe Darknut too) can support this name, it should be that project name we use until that is released. If there is going to be a poll about the name, I could accept that tough.

A matrix is a rectangular array of numbers. The name is at least 150 years old. The concept is about 2300 years old.

My reference was to the movie Matrix Reloaded.

I was just pointing out that they shouldn't be any legal issues with using it.

Ok. Thanks Yacoby.

Why would you ever think that?
Names, titles, and familiar words or symbols or slogans aren't trademarked.
Unless specifically used as a "brand name" associated with goods or services.

http://www.kaleo.ws/.a/6a00e008cb2b6f883401156ea3fefe970c-pi is copyrighted, because it's directly associated with the film and its creators, but the the word matrix isn't owned by anyone.

/OffTopic

I was not quite sure about that. Thank you Pluto.

EDIT: The only word I can think of is Windows.

Thanks Yac, I'll take a look at those. I'm very interested in APIs lately.


I have to say honestly, that name just doesn't tickle my fancy. It's a bit...plain...IMO. Just my opinion though. :shrug:



I've got a sample XML generator working. I put in a few options that we can use when requesting the file be generated:

http://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.php
http://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.php?author=Fliggerty
http://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.php?author=Fliggerty&description=1
http://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.php?author=Fliggerty&description=1&url=1
http://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.php?description=1&url=1 (May take a few minutes.)

Edit: Because URLs are automatically BBcoded here, here's how those URLs should actually be displayed:

http://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.phphttp://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.php?author=Fliggertyhttp://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.php?author=Fliggerty&description=1http://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.php?author=Fliggerty&description=1&url=1http://www.fliggenterprise.com/mammary/gen_xml.php?description=1&url=1

I kind of like MWMatrix, mentioned above: MWM for short. Easy acronym to use.

I disagree with you.

What ever the name .. the acronym needs to be at least "4" letters or it will be another mod that is a pain to search on BGF because of said forums weak search engine ( no 3 letter searches ) .... why on earth it would be that way in 2010 .. is kind of ridicules really ...

I personally don't like anything with "matrix" or MMO IMHO those names are "really" tired ...


Truth be told "MWModThingy" prob fits the personality of the motley crew hanging in this thread ....

That way we can have the description as 'This program does stuff'

If there is must be 4 letters, I support you. The word Thingy looks a little strange to me tough. Can you accept the MWModGrabber (MWMG) instead ?

"...and things."

:goodjob: .. funny!


I submit few more names ....

MEMI Morrorwind Easy Mod Installer

MEMM Morrorwind Easy Mod Manager

TEMI TES Easy Mod Installer

MMID Morrowind Mod Install Demystifier

Just to let everyone know, for anything big (i.e. more than a couple of hundred lines) try not to have a lot of code covered in raw SQL, write a wrapper class at least. I cannot guarentee that my database will stay in the same structure as it is now.
I am experimenting with a separate class for category names and changing the mod url so that it no longer has duplicated strings in. For example, TESNexus has every mod url has the common string 'http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id='. Moving this elsewhere leads to a slightly neater (and smaller ) database.

Hmmm, lots of naysaying to the name MWMatrix. Now I definately like it, since I love to be contrary and play the devil's advocate. Actually, I didn't even have the Matrix trilogy in mind when I suggested the name. That was an afterthought. The usage of the name Matrix is derived from the free World of Warcraft program that basically does the same thing and was the source of inspiration for the Torchleech program. They even promote Torchleech as a WOWMatrix clone. If anyone is going to be upset with the name, I would think it would be the WOWMatrix people. However, if I had written that program, I would take it as it was meant, an homage of sorts to the first program (that I'm aware of) that allows the direct download and installation of mods. And if people are still worried about 4 letter acronyms: MWMX.

But again, I really don't care what the name winds up being. I say, since peachykeen, Yacoby, John.Moonsugar, and now Fliggerty have done or are doing all of the work that will be used in this, they can decide its final name. Just make sure its MWMatrix.