You have to deactivate the plugin to see the plus sign. Did you uncheck the plugins? You do not even have to have them active when you rebuild the bashed patch. Actually, I recommend not doing that, so that you do not forget that they are already virtually active (merged.)

Good as they may be, none of the mentioned magic mods are really suitable for a holy warrior type character.
If you really want to role play http://www.tesnexus.com/downloads/file.php?id=20652 may be one you'd seriously want to consider. :angel:

I did...I played for an hour or so and the mods are working.

Ya I see it. thanks man. all you guys have been invaluable as usual :foodndrink:

If you do not see a plus sign after deactivating them, you did not select them under the "merge" section of the bashed patch. Did you read the http://sites.google.com/site/oblivionpoinfo/utilities/wrye-bash/bashedpatch?

Edit: Oh, good...*sigh*

I am getting there haha. One last thing. The plus signs say "Merged into Bash Patch" so obviously they are into the bash patch which i have active on obmm. meaning those + esps are deactivated in obmm cause they are in the bash patch but When I loaded up the previous save the game gave me the message that some things may not exist that previously were there. Should it? I mean they should be since they are in the bash patch aye?

The game looks at plugin names and form IDs, both of which have changed now that you have deactivated those plugins that should not have been active in the first place. Do not worry about that message, you know the content is there.

thanks to Tom and everyone in this thread.