Project Tamriel...

Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:27 pm

Kind of, im just kinda building height map's for all the regions, so far ive done very basic concepts for High Rock and Summerset Isle. Both of the maps still need alot of fine detail adding to the height map's

If your interested in helping out in any way with Summerset Isle i might suggest you speak with Red Eye as he will be heading that area, It would be great to have you on board :)

And Midget Alien, i know your PC is out of order at the minute but im just making a quick sketch of Hammerfell with hills and mountains :)
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:07 am

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Getting a lot of work in on updating my own website here, and once that is launched I think I will work on getting a site up for this project (PT) as well as a site for the Province specifically (both should be pretty painless as they will not require too much more than a Gallery and Forum). That way some more focused and direct communication can get rolling with this project :)

That's all for now.


Just throwin it out there, but for the website, I think it would be extremely beneficial to have a board or "to do list" where we can list everything that needs to be done and cross them out as they are completed (gone in 60 seconds style). Perhaps show whats being worked on by who as well. Just to better organize things as the project gets deeper and more complicated. This would help recruiting too, as someone could just be browsing it and notice something they are capable of doing and decide to just cross that off the list for the team.
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:00 pm

But yeah I know what you mean, but that's just what vvardenfall is like. That's how you gotta look at it



Off course, Vvardenfell has NO mountains, only hills expect the red mountain.

But why should this 2002 mistake be continued?

Oblivion Mountains are awesome is you compare them to Morrowind and I guess that should be a goal...but it's just my personal opinion! :bolt:
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:24 pm

Off course, Vvardenfell has NO mountains, only hills expect the red mountain.

But why should this 2002 mistake be continued?

Oblivion Mountains are awesome is you compare them to Morrowind and I guess that should be a goal...but it's just my personal opinion! :bolt:


Unfortunately Morrowind cant handle Oblivion mountains though ='-(.
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:37 pm

Unfortunately Morrowind cant handle Oblivion mountains though ='-(.



Everything till Game Height 30000-32000 work very well (Red Mountain is 16000)
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 6:19 am

Everything till Game Height 30000-32000 work very well (Red Mountain is 16000)


32,768 to be eZacked =-)
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:09 am

32768 to be precise :)

EDIT: DAMN YOU!!!!
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:24 pm

EDIT***
Beat me too it Dirnae :P, anyway the program im using is ideal for what i need really :)

***EDIT

Yeah I know, but no matter what format I convert it to using VLC it always comes out messed up. Any way I found a program called STOIK Video Converter which is a tiny program and it converts videos in seconds.

So here we are, my 5 minute first attempt at making hills for Summerset Isle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEwE-TLAZgM

VirtualDub is the program you need.

I followed this tutorial for the latest http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fi3iZplFOTs video. There is still a problem with aspect ratio but it is still good. I uploaded a 25 MB something and it was HD.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9XOgnaJ_Hs

I can help if you have questions about it.

BTW, I totally misunderstood this mod. I thought it was about Tamriel Rebuilt. It may surprise you but I was working on the same thing some time ago. But I couldn't use TESAnnwyn as I want. I have backups of some big heightmap files for whole map. Maybe, they can be useful. ;)


PS. For height limitations, I am sure MGE can render beyond that(I think mountains are for eye-candy anyway), for Morrowind rendering, mesh substitutes can be used. I think a good mixture of things can look really good.
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:25 pm

I'm http://ez002.k12.sd.us/Foliose_lichen_130_d.gif where this conversation is going
some good well made mountains (not hills) would be a godsend!
no pressure or anything ;)
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:50 am

Well mountains are nto impossible atall, its just a case of having sharper gradients. My main concern for ages thats been bugging me is not being able to even get the maximum height as tall as say red mountain. now thats possible, its simply down to making detailed images, the ones ive made so far are purely for tests only
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:56 am

Red mountain is the highest mountain in tamriel. If your efforts are aiming to be accurate and to scale, then I don't think you should have any problems with limitations.
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:44 pm

Who said we had problems with limitations? And im sure there was a few other mountains that are taller
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:52 am

Vtastek mentioned limitations.

As for the mountains, no Red mountain is the highest.
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 8:39 pm

Yes, but that doesn't mean that higher couldn't be placed. Who's to say that red mountain isn't highest in relative terms to the immediate area around it, not in terms of height above sea level.
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:43 am

I'm still sure ive read that there are taller mountains, and that red mountain was just the tallest in morrowind
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:23 pm

Actually Im quite positive that lore states Red Mountain is the highest, but to build on what NazoX9 said, I always take lore in as if somebody in Tamriel had come up and told me that information. I cant imagine anybody measuring to the top of Red Mountain, with the dangers of it and all, so I imagaine its generally accepted as the highest because of its surrounding area being much lower.
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:18 pm

So your saying its possible that other mountains are as tall if not taller?

Oh and im just messing about at the minute, i just imported the whole of tamriel excluding Skyrim and Morrowind into the game, It took up 19808 cells, and the plugin was 341MB
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:26 am

For the last couple of hours ive been detailing the heightmap im working on for High Rock. Once im satisfied with the way it looks I will post some screenshots for constructive criticism
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:08 am

EDIT***
Beat me too it Dirnae :P, anyway the program im using is ideal for what i need really :)

***EDIT

Yeah I know, but no matter what format I convert it to using VLC it always comes out messed up. Any way I found a program called STOIK Video Converter which is a tiny program and it converts videos in seconds.

So here we are, my 5 minute first attempt at making hills for Summerset Isle
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEwE-TLAZgM

Wootage, this is looking pretty nice so far, can't wait to see what the final is.

Woah, you're working on summerset? That's awesome! I would love to offer help on summerset. I've never really worked with exteriors, but I've done most else. How hard can it be right?

Are you going to be creating new architecture for this? I really like the lore on the isles, how the cities are shut off to all but high elves, and those with special permisions. Trade areas for the other races built outside the towns. Ahh, really could be amazing.

Kind of, im just kinda building height map's for all the regions, so far ive done very basic concepts for High Rock and Summerset Isle. Both of the maps still need alot of fine detail adding to the height map's

If your interested in helping out in any way with Summerset Isle i might suggest you speak with Red Eye as he will be heading that area, It would be great to have you on board :)

And Midget Alien, i know your PC is out of order at the minute but im just making a quick sketch of Hammerfell with hills and mountains :)

Word, yea, Nazo contacted me in PM, glad to have him on board for Summerset (and hopefully some of the other projects too).

Just throwin it out there, but for the website, I think it would be extremely beneficial to have a board or "to do list" where we can list everything that needs to be done and cross them out as they are completed (gone in 60 seconds style). Perhaps show whats being worked on by who as well. Just to better organize things as the project gets deeper and more complicated. This would help recruiting too, as someone could just be browsing it and notice something they are capable of doing and decide to just cross that off the list for the team.

Indeed, that certainly doesn't sound like too bad of an idea, the main PT site and Summerset will feature something along these lines (as I will be crafting these at this point).
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:00 am

Lore clearly states that Red Mountain is the highest mountain in Tamriel, with Skyrim's High Hrothgar coming in second. This isn't some amorphous concept like some parts of lore, this is the height of mountains. I'm not going to debate this further, because I don't see how it is even being debated at all. Red mountain is the tallest with High Hrothgar coming in second.
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:23 pm

Aren't all these things in separate worldspaces anyways so there's nothing to measure their height relative to? Unless you're trying to fit all of Tamriel into one worldspace, which shouldn't be possible given the limits of the game engine.
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:34 am

Morrowind doesn't use world spaces, that's Oblivion. So yeah in a way it will all be in the exterior world space of morrowind, and it as far as im aware it is very much possible. :)
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:12 am

It is indeed true, and I can't believe I actually made the effort to look this up:

From the PGE bit on skyrim:
Throat of the World

This is the highest mountain in Skyrim, and the highest in Tamriel aside from Vvardenfell in Morrowind. The Nords believe men were formed on this mountain when the sky breathed onto the land. Hence the Song of Return refers not only to Ysgramor's return to Tamriel after the destruction of Saarthal, but to the Nords' return to what they believe was their original homeland. Pilgrims travel from across Skyrim to climb the Seven Thousand Steps to High Hrothgar, where the most ancient and honored Greybeards dwell in absolute silence in their quest to become ever more attuned to the voice of the sky.
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Post » Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:57 am

The way you described making the areas sounded like TESIV, what with utilizing height-maps and what have you. Although I guess you were just referencing the landscape editor?
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Post » Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:06 pm

Jeez. This is the stupidest argument I've ever seen. You're right, lore states red mountain is the tallest. But again, who's to say how that's measured? Is there some kind of unknown technology that they use to see how high above sea level a mountain is? Again, like I said before. Anything like this could easily be explained away by saying that mountain height in Tamriel is a relative thing. There would be absolutely nothing lore breaking about that.
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