No prone, the drop shot is so cheap. I'm sick of CoD thank God for BRINK!

There should not be a prone function since the game is so fast paced. Having the function would merely ruin the quick paced experience.

no i don't want drop shooters, so theres my answer

Excuse me for being off-topic, but what's a drop shooter?

A player performing drop shots.

Thanks Captain Obvious.

Right, so what's a drop shot?

A drop shot is diving while shooting, or going prone while shooting.

More or less this.

It's the exploitation of a game mechanic that gives increased accuracy while prone. The game can't tell the difference between just getting to prone (or even going to prone) and having been prone so the second you hit the button it tends to be a more accurate shot.

So while it would seem logical to drop and return fire (an actual tactic in combat situations) doing so in game exploits the fact that it's a game and is percieved as "cheap".

It falls into a similar category, with bunnyhopping, jump shots, and dolphin diving as far as taking advantage of accuract mechanics. I always found it interesting that these were considered unacceptable, but people become enraged when you can't accurately strafe fire at full speed.

Honestly, prone is the stupidest action possible in a shooter. It promotes camping, and that drop shotting crap those "MLG pros" do....

I really don't see how prone will encourage camping more than crouching. I mean, unless you're in some underbrush, then you're not exactly more invisible than you would be when crouching.

As for including it, I say yes. If Bethesda can find a way to reduce dropshotting (sort of like what Treyarch did in Black Ops, by making the player dive to prone rather than drop to prone instantly), then prone could have some tactical use.

Maybe but diving to prone is too similar to sliding. Sliding is what works for Brink.

Adding prone in this game looks to be a waste of programing time and it would just mess up play dynamics. end of story

Are you sure?

Without having played the game we have no way of knowing what an ability like prone will do to the game dynamics.

I find it interesting that for a game to claim so much of the "be your own character, play your way, choose your path" mentality there are obvious features in place to promote certain styles of gaming and some missing that may discourage other styles.

Sure, the game is intended to move at a pace, but it is still a tactical "attack/defend" dynamic and as such will involve tactical camping on multiple levels.

Prone would simply be a defensive feature to counter some of the heavy amount of offensive features in the game and is no different from scampering up a wall to hide from a gunfight.

Just going on knowledge from what other game developers have said about including prone in games in the past. The ones I have read about that did not include prone was because of what it did to the game play comments such as slowing down game play and it requires more programing to be included into the game dynamics. So going from what sd developers have told us so far about the game play of fast paced style shooter along with the delay in time bringing this game to fruition. Also, I have not seen any video clips with prone characters in game action.
So on that note I'm giving it a solid 99% on NO prone in Brink.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAiSvAfdGmA video for CoD.

Only because most don't expect it. The "increased accuracy" comes from the fact that while your opponent is battling air, you're on your face sinking bullets into them from below.

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No, the increased accuracy comes from the programmed increase in accuracy given for laying prone. If there was a "recovery" period involved in the drop to prone dropshotting would happen less, or at least less successfully, and it would no longer be this major factor in the issues of being able to have prone in a game.

It's not only the accuracy gain, though. You minimize hit-zone to a fourth or fifth when going into prone. And usually people aren't aiming at your feet to begin with.

Right, but diving to prone should minimize your hit zone, that's why soldiers drop in incoming fire, it's no different from crouching behind something or taking cover behind a wall and shouldn't be considered a negative just because it presents less of a target to hit.

BUT that's not the exploitation. It's the exploitation of the prone position's increased accuracy as you drop that makes it such a BS thing in games.

Movement should make aim more difficult. Prone should make it easier. Moving to prone should suffer the negatives and then gain the positives once "prone" is attained. But then of course people wouldn't be able to shoot like an action hero and everyone would be upset.

It doesn't matter though, dropshots aren't going to be absent even without prone, because that's basically what the sliding shooting is going to be anyways.

That's why sliding is good. Makes you harder to hit but harder to shoot as well.

This.

But by how much? All I've seen is the footage of sliders with shotties, which look fairly accurate so far.

This. It's really noticeable with SMGs and ARs.

Shotties are balanced by their natural spread and limited effective range.

Every other weapon receives a terrible accuracy degradation.