Prostitution in Skyrim (serious topic) : V - Skyrim

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:33 pm

"Mature" doesn't mean "put six/drugs/homosixuality/extra gore in the game because it is a mature game"
Mature is more of the player being mature enough to understand why something is in the game, and the player is past the feeling of titillation because the player sees an 1920x1080 boob.

Exactly.

A game like Marathon 2: Durandal didn't have nudity, swearing, drugs, or six, but I consider it a heck of a lot more mature than Duke Nukem' 3D.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 2:53 am

Well I don't really care because in terms of gameplay it gets you what...50 coins poorer? (or whatever) and in terms of...gettting off...it gets you nothing unless Bethesda wants to show nudity...which they don't, and we have better ways to get this kind of thing

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:02 pm

(On an opening note, please realise this is a board for a mature game with a fairly mature audience before putting it up for moderation)

It's just i can see this making sense in the world of ES. and im not just getting the idea from Fo:NV.

Just think about it. there's tons of beggars around, surely some of them would be prosttutes in order to earn money? i know this is also a forum on introducing s*x into the game, which i dont think is a bad idea. Prostitution would make the cities a lot more realistic, especially *rough* or poor cities, since they said there will be a lot more cities in skyrim. and, yes, both male and female prosttutes would be availible, which i suppose would introduce homosixuality, but that could also make NPC's much more unique.If ur against that, think of FO:NV and how little effect it had to ur gameplay of it, as well as it being one of the best perks around lol.

I could also see it as part of the Thieves guild, as they could be the "eyes and ears" of its leader as well as the beggars and they can subtley*acquire* information from certain people. and i can see a small quest line that you can manage them, with infamy coming from it of course.

Summary: i think this could really help with the immersion of the game, and to make random NPC's more unique.

What do ye think?

we need some form of six related realtions

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:45 am

Anyone suggest owning a brothel and collecting money from the hokers yet?

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:46 am

Anyone suggest owning a brothel and collecting money from the hokers yet?

You sure you're not asking for a little too much? :S

Do you really want to be a Skyrim pimp?

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:08 am

You sure you're not asking for a little too much? :S

Do you really want to be a Skyrim pimp?

Just being pratical. Be better than them just standing around.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:16 am

The fact is, an M rated game might sell fewer copies. Appealing to the 14 and under crowd is lucrative. Just look at Harry Potter.

Which means I'm all for prosttutes and any such mature content that they can portray in a serious and tasteful manner. Books do it. Movies too. It's about time video games grow up.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:52 am

I would vote yes, but TES hasn't really been a series that has dealt with six much (lusty argonian maid, and uncle crassius aside). So I doubt it'll be included.

On a more optimistic note, I'm 100% sure someone will mod in some lewd variation within a 6 months of release.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:22 pm

Anyone suggest owning a brothel and collecting money from the hokers yet?

Like Assassin's Creed!

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:48 am

Anyone suggest owning a brothel and collecting money from the hokers yet?

Only if it comes with a sweet hat and cane.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:14 am

Wow I got hammered there about my thoughts on ratings being the reason for no prostitution, so I humbly concede and put forward that yes, it would be nice to stumble in to the in from a blizzard to have my bed warmed by nice fury female Kajit.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 5:24 pm

Sick. Sick. Very bad people.

And in other words - I like the friendly feeling in ES, you do things for greater goods or greater greeds and never aim for six while you do them, It makes the game more special and pure. Its about the only unrealistic thing i wish to have in ES.
At other cases i would say make it realistic as it can get...
BUT No six in ES, no nudity... It would ruin the... Pure fantasy magic the game has.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:02 pm

I don't want stuff like prostitution in the game because, quite frankly, I want a more family friendly gaming experience. If you want prostitution, there's a great series call Fallout that you may be interested in.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:51 am

I don't want stuff like prostitution in the game because, quite frankly, I want a more family friendly gaming experience. If you want prostitution, there's a great series call Fallout that you may be interested in.

So that means TES will always be Fallout's wimpy little brother?

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:56 pm

I wouldn't mind a prostitution guild if it added to the world beyond making it more "gritty" or "realistic." It needs to be properly incorporated into the culture of Skyrim. Is prostitution frowned upon, restricted, regulated? Or is it an acceptable profession, or even a noble one? Do religions approve of, dislike, or sanction it? What is its historical and cultural basis? etc. Putting in ladies you can sleep for for the sake of having ladies you can sleep with is a waste of time and opportunity imo.

Of course, and I wouldn't expect any less. I think of it as serving the same purpose Skooma does, and I think they did a great job incorporating that into the world.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:20 pm

We already have a 6 Page Thread on this and it got closed because People were getting out of hand.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1177530-prosttutes-guild/

then we should keep this one open by acting mature... lol bewbs

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:46 am

So that means TES will always be Fallout's wimpy little brother?

Yeah i don't think so. Correct me if I'm wrong but Oblivion was rated "T" at release right? and then it got changed to "M" due to mods... right? well Todd said already that they were designing Skyrim under the assumption that it is going to be rated M. They probably just realized "modders are gonna make this game M anyway... why hold ourselves back to a "T" rated game."

Sorry people who wanted a more family friendly game... It looks like Skyrim is going to be the most advlt-oriented game so far.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:19 am

Yeah i don't think so. Correct me if I'm wrong but Oblivion was rated "T" at release right? and then it got changed to "M" due to mods... right? well Todd said already that they were designing Skyrim under the assumption that it is going to be rated M. They probably just realized "modders are gonna make this game M anyway... why hold ourselves back to a "T" rated game."

Sorry people who wanted a more family friendly game... It looks like Skyrim is going to be the most advlt-oriented game so far.

On May 3, 2006, the North American Entertainment Software Rating Board (ESRB) changed the rating of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, a video game for PCs, the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360, from Teen (13+) to Mature (17+). The ESRB cited the presence of content not considered in their original review in the published edition of Oblivion. This included detailed depictions of blood and gore and sixually explicit content. The sixually explicit content was an art file, made accessible by a third party modification called the Oblivion Topless Mod, that rendered the game with topless female characters.

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESRB_re-rating_of_The_Elder_Scrolls_IV:_Oblivion Wikipedia article.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 11:42 am

If it would be put in, I would imagine that it would be like in AC2 or ACB. They are there, you can talk and interact with them, but you cannot do them. And if you could it would cut to a black screen for a sec, you would wake up in the morning, 100 coins less and in a good mood.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:39 pm

Don't dismiss someone else's point through wordplay. I'm sure you can do better. You know precisely well what the poster means.

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Precisely my point. There is a reason why prostitution should be in. It does make sense. It introduces opportunities for more varied quests. It deepens the mood, it gives depth to settings, namely dubious outskirts, and it enlarges the cast of archtypes.

It is not word play. I am responding to someone how's saying prostitution makes the game more "realistic", yet the game deals with magic, mythological creatures, etc. so the game isn't "realistic" at all. Besides, if you want "realism" (as in implementing real life aspects into the game) , there are countless things that can be implemented into the game, countless aspects who people actually see every day and hear about every day, which would make the game seem more "real".

And you saying "precisely my point. There is a reason why prostitution should be in" just proves what I am saying. There really isn't anything ancillary that should be in the game, and that is all that prosttutes would be in a TES game, an insignificant ancillary aspect of the game. How the stories are told, how the quests are designed and how they progress, that's what gives mood and depth.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 3:54 pm

Whoa! Vikings were notorious for taking things without paying for them, if you understand my meaning. If Bethesda is squeamish about prostitution and nudity, I promise they don't want to try to implement everything the Vikings may have done into their games.

Err... Not that the discussion requires a lot of enlightenment on the subject, but 'viking' was actually a very broad denomation. 'vik' I think means 'bay' and so it would mean sth like 'lives near a bay'. there were farmer vikings, trader vikings, etc...Tor being actually a God of Weather, so lots of farmers / fishermen would pray to him for less cold / rain, whatever... vikings were not just about war / violence stuff - obviously, the attrocities may have been so awesome that they were more known for this.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 7:53 pm

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While I disagree with your tone (kinda snarky there mister

) you are 100% correct. Hell Duke Nukem is gonna be M, GTA is M, Fallout, Fable, and all these other things are M. Common elements? Violence (on graphic levels for some), nudity, sixual themes (Duke get's strippers, GTA, Fable, Fallout, etc. has prosttutes).

Leisure Suit Larry has a damn M rating, so does Postal 2. You are constantly looking for six in one and in the other you get to light people on fire, pee on them to put it out, then come back with gonorrhea and light them on fire with your urine.

Edit: Forgot to make my point. This is not a big deal, especially not for an M game. If you live in some country where this kind of pathetically tiny and inoffensive thing get's banned than I feel bad for you but at the end of the day I'd rather you suffer without Skyrim for me to have a better experience in my copy. Maybe I'm just a dike though.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 1:15 pm

Why hasn't the option to become a prosttute been mentioned? It would be a way to get info, some extra coin, or possibly an avenue of access to areas that would otherwise be difficult to penetrate (like making a 'house call' for a Lord).

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:25 pm

Why hasn't the option to become a prosttute been mentioned? It would be a way to get info, some extra coin, or possibly an avenue of access to areas that would otherwise be difficult to penetrate (like making a 'house call' for a Lord).

There should be a joinable Seamstress Guild.

» Mon Dec 13, 2010 4:07 pm

There should be a joinable Seamstress Guild.

I want a baker's guild. I would get fat off all of the sweetrolls... but life would be so good!