I hope the grittier atmosphere of Skyrim is not limited to spartan weapon design and cloudy weather. I hope we get mature dialogue, executions, more violence (both physical and verbal), dangerous quarters in the big cities, nightlife, gambling, assassins guilds that look more like cold blooded mercenaries and less than mentally diseased religious fanatics, and why not, more earthly delights and brothels. prosttutes have a great potential atmosphere wise, they are as appropriate as thieves.

I can name two characters in Oblivion who were known prosttutes. The only thing was that your character could not use their services (which is something I don't think is necessary). Mirabelle Monet in Anvil was a prosttute for the sailors. Luciana Galena was a fence for the thieves guild, and she also had a side job at an inn in Bravil. It was never specified what her duties were at that inn, but by the way she spoke, it was pretty obvious that she was a prosttute.

And they do add something by being there--a realistic game world. What would the game be without all the NPCs walking around who have no actual purpose other than adding personality and filling the cities? If there were only necessary characters in the game, it wouldn't be a very full world...

That is exactly what I think is completely unnecessary, to add something with no purpose in any way. Yeah lets add this tree into the game that is supposed to be a walking, talking tree. The NPCs in a nearby city all say they know that the tree lives, but every single time you visit it, it's just another damn tree with no purpose, why even bother to say it lives if it doesn't? :unsure2: Same comes with the prosttutes and women/men who sell six services, why would they be added in the game in no real way other than simply saying "yes, I'm a prostitue but oh, I never actually do anything but I'm in the game to add flavour in the way of doing nothing". If other NPCs actually bought the services it would add something to the game, imo. I sure hope you see what point I'm looking from on the matter, madgodess.

Being a prosttute is like any other job, you must do something to get money. Now with NPCs cutting wood, cooking stuff and possibly hunting for the town it wouldn't make sense for prosttutes to do their job in a fictional way and not actually added to the game. It would be great to see a female nord, half naked, seduce a nord male and then being off to the rooms upstairs, but if the prosttute just stands there all day simply being a prostitue without doing anything.. Adds nothing. :blink:

Well yes, I see your point in that way. Like I stated in the other prostitution thread, I think there should be prosttutes in the game, and of course they can sort of service other NPCs. And I guess I don't really care if your character can receive their services, too. It wouldn't bother me, either way. I think it would be ridiculous to actually have animated six scenes, but having the characters there does add to the atmosphere and the realistic feel of the game world.

I'm really more in the middle when it comes to this topic, and I don't care either way, but I am disturbed by all the people who get so freaked out about sixuality in games and movies, but they don't seem to show much if any concern for violence and cruelty. It seems a little backwards to me, honestly. (And I'm not saying you are one of those people, I am just saying this because it fits with the point I am trying to make.)

There are a lot of NPC's that have jobs that don't make any difference to the PC. I don't know why your excluding prostitution from that.

I would like to be able to own different shops that create different items. Different professions may include: Sewing, blacksmithing, alchemist, carpenter, finishing, traveling merchant(maybe), a banker, a businessman(maybe), servant, waiter(ess), hunter, farmer, cook, fool(aka joker, maybe) knight(with a castle and slaves/peasants), count, King/Queen, and probably a lot more that I can't think of right now. Every job, good and evil, that can be done by NPCs should be done by the PC. Not that I'd want to be all of these professions, I just want to be allowed to or maybe have a side job.

Sorry, I suppose I should be a little more on topic. Specifically prostitution? I suppose that would add to the culture of Skyrim. Frankly, I don't care.

As Less Nessman have said, the oldest profession in the world is a "Farmer" Maybe prostitution is the 2nd oldes proffesion in the world.

Why is this an aspect that you're worried about? Is this really worth discussing? I don't really think the developers are worried about this sort of aspect. I'm not saying it would never be included, but it's just not a very important aspect, and it's not something they should be focused on.

Exactly. Which is why I stated that thing about people being "afraid of sixuality". If they aren't complaining about there being other NPCs with no purpose, why are they complaining about prosttutes? It's because of the stigma attached to it. People in the western world are, in many ways, afraid of sixuality. That's why they'll sooner attack sixually explicit material before attacking material wreaking with violence and bloodshed. It's backwards.

I find it funny people want prostitution in the game and not other apsects of life. What about healers? I can't rememeber if that was in Arena or Daggerfall, that if I met a Healer I would be healed for 10 gold coins or just talking to them. Wouldn't you want a Dr to heal you, a Farmer giving you FRESH food, or a another smith person to make you armour or weapons instead of an arms dealer?

I have a feeling this topic is going to be closed very soon...

I don't really care if it is in or not, this is kind of a pointless thread now..

Well just because prostitution is the topic at hand doesn't mean that we wouldn't like to see other things.

Smiths and farmers are a given, and healers would be nice as well, just add prostitution to that list to kick up the realism and atmosphere.

As long as it isn't blatantly for fan service and it's orientation neutral I'm all for it.

Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean its the end of the thread and suddenly everyone agrees with you. At least come up with an arguement.

And to answer your questions;

I'm worried because it adds to the grittyness in the world, and Oblivion was much to clean, for me at least. And yes it is worth discussing.

We see the normal non-gritty parts of society everywhere you look, and it wouldn't hurt to add some more to the underbelly of the cities.

With you 100%

The question is, why should they bother with this?
They can't go the naked route. I'm a Nord, ( ) and around here violence gets rated higher than six, but I do understand the impact religon makes in big parts of the world, thus making it a bad decision to implement it.

There has always been a hint at it, and for those of you that want more than that, ask yourself, Is TES the place I should be looking for this stuff?

It makes sense people poop in Skyrim. Should people poop for that reason? No.

And neither should there be prostitution.

I wouldn't mind a prostitution guild if it added to the world beyond making it more "gritty" or "realistic." It needs to be properly incorporated into the culture of Skyrim. Is prostitution frowned upon, restricted, regulated? Or is it an acceptable profession, or even a noble one? Do religions approve of, dislike, or sanction it? What is its historical and cultural basis? etc. Putting in ladies you can sleep for for the sake of having ladies you can sleep with is a waste of time and opportunity imo.

This.
A thousand times this.

That's a terrible argument. Are you comparing prostitution to poop? Why?

This. This helps explain why TR and your Hammerfell Oblivion mods are so awesome .

Unless it plays a role in some quest. (or because it adds depth to some shady areas in the capital of the Province)
Dismissimng Prostitution based on the uselessness of Pooping within a game is like saying they should both be excluded cause both words start with the letter P.

I'd like to see different cults have different views on it. Dibella worshipers should support or even regulate it, for example.

I think you misunderstand the meaning of Realism in fiction. Realism means believable, not real to life.


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I don't mind little allusions here and there, no need to hide this, but no need to make it bigger than it is either. I don't want services, mods can deal with that, agreed^^.

If this is off topic I apologize, but why is it that people see six as something that is so morally bad in video games? I remember when I was younger, my parents wouldnt let me get GTA 3 because it had prosttutes in it, not because I could kill hundreds of civilians and police officers. I know that most parents and guardians are this way too. I just dont get why though. I mean, six is good. If it werent for six, nobody would be here so why is it such a hard pill for people to swallow when it comes to six in videogames. Violence, on the other hand, is bad but people don't seem to care when you can kill as many people as you want in videogames. So I vote for prosttutes in Skyrim. If you can kill as many people as you want, then why would it be such a big deal to hire a hoker?

This too. I've honestly no idea why mutilating and slaughtering literally thousands of people in some cases is more acceptable than even a nipble. Not that I want any nipbles in Skyrim, but yeah, the world is wrong. But this leads to politics and politics leads to thread locked, so lets not go there.