Even though it had them in previous titles?


What's sick about naked ladies? And prostituation in the game doesn't necessarily mean naked ladies.

Grow up, daventry.

There were prosttutes in Previous Elderscrolls

The reason I like this idea so much is because it shows flaws in the world, and flaws make the world more believable.
Take OB for instance, everyone was... a bit too perfect for me, I couldn't see much flaw with the ruling system it had, the Empire ruled with no resistance, with no -real- corruption... except for a few not fun bandits and the one quest with the corrupted imperial guard, it didn't offer much flaw.
Flaw is why I liked Morrowind so much, it showed a world that is not advanced, dirty, wild, hostile and corrupted, with no real government to support the inhabitants. Take for example the Skooma traders, it was much more emphasized in MW than in OB, MW felt more real for me than OB... only because of the flaws it had.

Anyway, yeah, would be cool to see such things, especially in a world that's gone into chaos with a civil war. I expect lots of things in such manner to appear in Skyrim.
Thing is, like most of the people here, I agree that you shouldn't have the possibility of "using" the guild or brothel, as stated. It could add depth and be lore friendly as long as it's not THAT big a part of the world and as long as it's accessable only to NPCs, and even then we can't actually see the NPCs using their services...

As for all the other factions, I completely 100% agree with you, even if they don't give us the option to join such guilds like architects, brewers, cooks and such, I'd still be happy to see that people actually have real, not necessarily useful to the player, jobs. It's a part of what makes the world and the NPCs seem more alive-like.

LOL @ Americans.

I bet you guys from other countries see how naive and ridiculous we are when it comes to six and just laugh your asses off.

six is not evil, no matter what Jason Vorhees and Michael Myers would have you believe.

I believe there is a difference between conservative media and scaremongering 'infotainment'. I mentioned the Daily Mail too which should suggest that I'm not trying to single America out here.

All publicity is good publicity. Personally I don't care if there is six & prosttutes in Skyrim or not, but I equally do not think there is anything seedy or wrong about six!

Why walk around on eggshells with illogical people making illogical arguments? I am with Bill Maher on this, even if there are other things I disagree with him about. He comments on how America's Republican party has made an essential art form of shouting things into acceptibility. That if they have a position on an issue, even if the position isn't popular, they push and prod, propagandize and lambast until it becomes accepted by larger majorities. He suggested that other people with more sensible views should adopt this same "refuse to loose" attitude.

People go around saying "well of course nudity etc. is natural and not implicitly negative, and that violence and gore are far worse etc. But you know how the culture is etc. etc." And the culture will stay that way if no one is ever willing to stand up and say, "this is bull feces, and it doesn't make a bit of sense, and what is wrong with your minds to think there is anything rational in these measures and hollow arguments." I for one grow tired of the policy of "lets lie down quietly and let them walk over top of us, that way at least they won't get angry and start stamping or kicking."

:stare: :stare:

I think Oregon has more strippers per capita than anywhere else int he USA. Unfortunately a large portion of them I would pay to keep their clothes on :cryvaultboy: I think there is like at least 1 strip club per town and it doesn't make the towns feel 'seedy' but it does keep all of the seedy people distracted in one area of the town.

I think there should be more confrontational drunks. I rarely go into bars yet I have seen people who want to start fights almost every time I visit them. It would also be nice to see every other profession and way of life being presented as well, but I think that the world's scale is too small for that to be realistic. Perhaps in TES 6 they can increase the area of whatever province is being presented so that the game can feel truly epic in size and scope!

By "the rest of us not sick people" would you be commenting on those who feel the game needs to have more realistic gore, dismemberment, decapitations, and blood spray? I understand that it is much more polite to disembowel someone and crack their head open than it is to ask them to show you their buttocks and. . . wait a minute. . .no it isn't. Not at all. lol. If the choice is between having you split my skull and having you ask about what's under my garments, ask away. I may find it awkward. . . but my skull will still be intact, and thank God for that. :foodndrink: In fact, I will go so far to say, I would rather you flash and moon me outright, than flay and murder me. I would bet this is a fairly universal sentiment.

And what little hope this thread had to remain useful flies out the window with the continuous prude/pervert comments and political commentaries.

Anyways. I think previous installments got the balance right. prosttutes existed, there was necrophilia lady, cheating spouses, corrupt cops, a gang of seducer/bandits, drugs, slavers, grave robbers etc. Virtually if not every every city had its seedy plots and parts while on the surface you never saw it. That seems right to me, there shouldn't be a sign that says seedy type crossing next 5 miles. But if you know where to look you will find it.

Fitting that you have a Disney avatar.

You must have a bad attitude if you bring that out of people almost every time you go into a bar.

I think I basically agree with you though. Since the problem with the idea that in most real cities there is X thing is with how condensed a video game city is things feel more concentrated when you have them in each town. There are strip clubs and or prosttutes in the town I am from and currently in, the Sauna next door to my dads office was raided by the cops about a dozen times looking for prosttutes. They never found any, but it did run them out of business. But to me at least population few hundred thousand and there being prosttutes feels different than population 50 and there is a brothel in every town. Especially when that means a lot of more mundane professions are not represented. If they start having massive cities where each city has a 1,000+people and most needed professions are shown, then things like brothels in every town feel to fit more to me.

And such threads always will turn towards culture and politics, though this does not make them useless. They turn towards that because most people know, culture and politics are the reasons that certain features are left out of the game. There is no other logic aside from the largely illogical and hyperbolic but nevertheless culturally prevalent attacks which such features might draw to the games and the developers.

The reason the developers don't add the types of things this thread asks about is because they are afraid. Afraid of political and social/media backlash. Afraid of it, and unwilling to argue it down on its lack of merits. That is the reality. One cannot honestly answer the question of why these supposedly verisimilitude seeking games shy away from such basic aspects of life, without bringing the cultural and political shortcomings into the equation.

And Slimgrin. . . I don't know if Disney is such a fitting icon. Supposedly there is a ton of hidden lechery in the Disney approach.

It was a joke, from a certain media that cant be posted here, too vulgar.

It wouldn't be any different than the prosttutes in the Witcher. They could hand out quests once in a while to collect from prosttutes who aren't paying up or won't join, or to get rid of some rough housers beating up on the work.

Hopefully, with the advent of mining, woodcutting, farming, etc we'll see some guild work (doesn't have to be a joinable guild, just a tangible one) based around those actions. Clearing out monstesr from mines so workers can move in, killing spiders lurking around some woods so they can be cut down, or remove goblins from nearby farms so the workers can bring their goods to market. Perhaps these guilds would also sell much of the equipment needed to do these things (woodcutting axes, hoes, seeds, pickaxes, etc).

This is just as stupid & ridiculous as Dovakiin and dragons! No.

Love your sig,. My character awaits his invitation. lol :celebration:

I like this idea, expanding the guilds a bit to include more character types.

There is no reason why prosttutes can't be in the game. They play a big part in AC, and are portrayed well. There is no reason why this cant also be in Skyrim, it is something that has been present in every civilization since the start of man.

Prostitution does not necessarily = seedy storylines. Think outside of the box....

Completely agree with you. Prostitution is the oldest profession in the world and it should be included somewhere in the game, more so in the maritime districts.

maybe just a Quest about a prosttute that's it don't need to make a Guild for it

Leave it to the modders, I say. They come up with the weirdest stuff anyway.

Go fetch some porm if you're really that desperate, for heaven's sake.

meh why not its not a biggy for me anyways

Actually, though I can't stand Fox News and I agree with you, I am offended that you would say that second part there--sadly, many highly intelligent people I know very well are ready to believe anything and everything they hear on Fox News. It is the best-known conservative media outlet in America, and they have a massive following. Many of those people are well-educated and intelligent--unfortunately, they let other people tell them what to think, rather than doing some research themselves....

More on-topic, however, I will again state that I believe the past Elderscrolls games have had enough sixuality in them, and there is no need for them to waste valuable time and resources on making a prosttute guild--especially when there are many other guilds of greater importance they could implement, but which they are not going to do. Those who want to have their characters go out to a brothel and hook up with a prosttute--can't you just use your imagination and pretend your character does that? Do they really need to have some kind of animation in the game? I think that would be going too far, and I am far from conservative and prudish.

Not to mention a bias media is the most profitable media. Id also say that Fox news is just as bias and 'ignorant' as MSNBC is bias and 'smug'. There in lies the problem with two extreme polar parties.

On topic: Since the prostitution guild was enacted during the reign of an outside dictator basically, I wonder if it survived past the 3rd Era.

.....so what does your character do in the prosttutes guild? I mean do you act as a pimp? collect money? Use their services? I mean i don't understand what you need this guild for, or is it a background thing like the club in morrowind, or do you just go in to get quest from the creepy guys who hang out there all day?