Personally, I don't really care one way or the other, I chose context > sheltering with my 13 year old daughter and I'm not worried about her getting scarred for life over anything in a computer game. But the ESRB isn't the only rating system BGS is dealing with, since Germany and Australia rating systems have their own quirks.


You can stop right there with the name-calling, thanks. I was born in 1971.

As for it being in since Arena and Daggerfall, that pretty much ended with Daggerfall, and all it ever amounted to was a faction, you couldn't get 'serviced'. Politicians got a bit foamy at the mouth over the nudity in Daggerfall, and it contributed to the ESRB getting created in the first place.

As people have said before.

They could work for the Thieves Guild or you could just use them for info on a quest.

Well that is fair.
Although the idea of male prosttutes makes me wanna vomit I think I could live without female ones.

Having said that, I do don't see anything wrong with nudity in the game. Daggerfall did have it afterall iirc.

Though I really see it as cheap foolishness that they've kiddied up the game so much in as many years. Do you recall the number of gods of six in the average TES pantheon? It is ridiculous how beastial horrific torture can be performed upon a person in the game, but a reference to the world's oldest profession would be crossing some line. Of course they should have prostitution in all their games, Bethesda after all wrote the lore saying the prosttute's guild is one of the major guilds in the empire, and in past games established guildhalls for members, as well as stationing guild members in prominent taverns. Just as it would be insulting to the fans to claim that good manners are never practiced in Tamriel, it is outrageous to pretend sixual relations are non-existent. I am pleased that children are making a return, so at least the products of coitus are present.

Well, of course you are right. But, blame the backwards, quasi evil culture. There really is little more to be said.

i killed those women

That whas then and this is now. This is a new game so it can have new mechanics or gameplay changes.

Yes it is outrageous to pretend sixual relations are non-existent, but based on the ESRB sixual relations will be no more than a light touch/tame like in assassins creed possibly less. If prosttutes do make an apperance then they will most likley be similar to red deads (gameplay wise)

Well, you can't change rules unless you challenge 'em. Unfortunately, Bethesda doesn't feel like taking up the mantle for the cause, so we're left waiting with no briasts to spare us the pain.

six doesn't sell Skyrim.
Skyrim doesn't sell six.

Exactly, this is now. Do it. It can have more complex new mechanics for social interaction, and gameplay changes for the better from the curiously inept previous version. Do you recall what the worst was when Daggerfall came out? Surely the fallout from such an event now would be minor in comparison, compared to a Duke Nukem, there's no way they would talk about Skyrim on the floor of the US Senate like they talked about Daggerfall. That probably sold more games than not.

For social interactions Bethesda nailed it long ago You can talk to anybody and have and have adequate dialouge and is even better with this new radiant A.I. System. If your talking about six then you better hope the black screen theory prevails. That or a Assassins creed type cutcene. I honestly doubt bethesda would have the act of prostituionin their game. Just look at the ESRB.

M Blood and Gore
Intense Violence
sixual Themes
Use of Alcohol

I swear that's what he said too, but after reading the transcript and listening to the video again... I guess he said it's a "good place to pick up a quest with the new quest system".

They might. Fallout3 had one in Megaton. But why bother since they have romance? I mean maybe it's in but my bet is they put all their work into marriage romance system and left this one out.

I just wanna be a pimp.

maybe u can get some bonus after err......service with them

i mean u r a NORD man, NORDDDDDDD, no prosttute?blasphemy!!

This kid is right. Personally, I don't give a crap whether or not prostitution will be in, but assuming that you could marry, I would assume yes for right now. If it were to be in, I'm sure that there will be NO sixual visuals whatsoever. This game shouldn't focus on six. It's about escaping prison and killing the bad guy god.

This is not Elder six V: sixrim.

I'm sure there will be with mods, just like there's a sixblivion

To each there own but I would be cool to see and to be honest I don't really want to see naked prosttutes in skyrim since it's just too duke nukem stripper bar for my taste.

For those who think they should 'fight the MAN!!!':

The ESRB rating standards are voluntary. It is perfectly legal to create a game that ignores their system completely. This isn't a case of fighting the man.

The reason the ESRB was formed was to calm an increasingly irate and vocal group of parents and other assorted moralists who might otherwise have gotten their congressmen (either state or federal legislatures) to pass laws restricting the video game market, which is bad for ALL game makers. The ESRB allowed game makers to point and say "See, we're doing everything we can to inform consumers so parents can keep their kids pure."

If companies start ignoring the ESRB wholesale, the potential for regressive legislation starts to rise again.

Of course, some game retail outlets might insist on ESRB ratings before even stocking a game, but ordering online is easy enough that that hardly means anything really.

Obviously. prosttutes are the ones who sell six.

I'm more than a little shocked that you think Bethesda nailed social interactions and have adequate dialogue for everyone.

There's no need to bring any of that up, we aren't talking about penetration of hatchet wounds.

Considering the breadth of their games and the fact that it has been in several of their games already, I doubt that you honestly doubt this. You might be forcing it to the back of your mind or something, but honest doubt? Perhaps not.

Oh, sure. And look at games with similar things to what we've mentioned.

Daggerfall rated M
Duke Nukem rated M
The Witcher rated M
Dragon Age: Origins rated M
Skyrim rated M

I was more refering to spouses and stuff. If you really feel the need to get married in a game may as well collect the full benefits

The ESRB standards have actually gotten quite a bit stricter since back then.

Yep

Then tap their ceiling and find out. Though the latest duke was just this year, wasn't it?

Tapping the ceiling costs too much, since game makers have to pay the ESRB for each rating review. There's just no motivation there, since a mistake translates to either the same or less revenue, not more.

As for Duke, no one's going to complain about a game no one plays due to it svcking too badly.