Province Capitals

Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 10:37 pm

What are the capital cities of the provinces?

I have some of them down pat:

CYRODIIL: Imperial City (Du'h)
MORROWIND: Almalexia (Including Mournhold)
BLACK MARSH: ?
SKYRIM: ?
HAMMERFELL: ?
HIGH ROCK: Daggerfall
VALENWOOD: ?
ELSWEYR: ? (Possibly Dune or Torval)
SUMMERSET ISLE: Alinor

I hope someone can finish this list.

Thanks!
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:03 am

In most cases, the provinces actually consist of a number of individual kingdoms, and thus don't have a capitol. Example: High Rock's Capital is not Daggerfall, because there are multiple kingdoms in High Rock that would not make themselves subservient to the Kingdom of Daggerfall. Specifically, Orsinium and Wayrest.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:31 pm

I hope someone can finish this list.

I'm sure http://www.imperial-library.info/maps/minibigmaproadslore31gv.jpg can answer you question.

As the above post states, some provinces don't really have capitals due to political landscapes and such.

CYRODIIL: Imperial City (Du'h)
MORROWIND: Almalexia (Including Mournhold)
BLACK MARSH: ?
SKYRIM: ?
HAMMERFELL: ?
HIGH ROCK: Daggerfall
VALENWOOD: ?
ELSWEYR: ? (Possibly Dune or Torval)
SUMMERSET ISLE: Alinor

Valenwood's capital is Falinesti, Skyrim's capital is Winterhold, Daggerfall is considered to be the capitol of High Rock and I am fairly sure Lilmoth is the capitol of Black Marsh.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 7:53 am

What are the capital cities of the provinces?I have some of them down pat:CYRODIIL: Imperial City (Du'h)
MORROWIND: Almalexia (Including Mournhold)
BLACK MARSH: ?
SKYRIM: ?
HAMMERFELL: ?
HIGH ROCK: Daggerfall
VALENWOOD: ?
ELSWEYR: ?
(Possibly Dune or Torval)
SUMMERSET ISLE: AlinorI

If High Rock had a capital, it would be Wayrest. But it doesn't have a capitol, so no problem.

I would guess that Firsthold would be the most powerful city in the Summerset Isle, but they don't have a capital either.

In Skyrim, they call Whiterun the Imperial City of Skyrim. If they had a capital, I would say Solitude is the most powerful.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:03 pm

I'm sure Lilmoth is the capitol of Black Marsh.


I'm pretty sure Black Marsh's capital is Helstrom which is suppose to be the origin of the hist trees and inaccessible to non argonians and located in the cental of Black Marsh.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:35 pm

As a series of kingdoms, High Rock wouldn't have a specific capital. But, as a province of the Empire, it's capital would be wherever the Imperial-appointed ruler legislates from. That's why Ebonheart is the capital of Vvardenfell, and Mournhold is the capital of Morrowind.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:03 pm

I'm pretty sure Black Marsh's capital is Helstrom which is suppose to be the origin of the hist trees and inaccessible to non argonians and located in the cental of Black Marsh.

The Lilmoth assumption is just based on the information provided in The Infernal City; seemingly it is the political centre point of the An-Xileel and their advisors - It also has a huge trade industry. Helstrom being inaccessible to non-Argonians is just another reason for it not to be considered the capitol. It would have great cultural significance though, much like Necrom in Morrowind.

As a series of kingdoms, High Rock wouldn't have a specific capital. But, as a province of the Empire, it's capital would be wherever the Imperial-appointed ruler legislates from. That's why Ebonheart is the capital of Vvardenfell, and Mournhold is the capital of Morrowind.

That's right - High Rock does not have a capitol but when it was under the rule of the Septim Empire, Daggerfall was made the capitol.

CYRODIIL: Imperial City (Du'h)
MORROWIND: Almalexia (Including Mournhold)
BLACK MARSH: ?
SKYRIM: ?
HAMMERFELL: ?
HIGH ROCK: Daggerfall
VALENWOOD: ?
ELSWEYR: ? (Possibly Dune or Torval)
SUMMERSET ISLE: Alinor

To continue answering the original question - Torval is the capitol of Elsweyr, which just about completes the line-up.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 8:41 am

Sentinel is Hammerfell's
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:23 pm

That's right - High Rock does not have a capitol but when it was under the rule of the Septim Empire, Daggerfall was made the capitol.

What makes you think so?
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:00 pm

From the UESP article on said city.

The city of Daggerfall is the capital of the correspondent Kingdom of Daggerfall, located in southern High Rock in the Iliac Bay. Daggerfall City is also the capital of the entire imperial province of High Rock.

I could probably find some in-game literature on it too, If I had a look.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 4:49 pm

From the UESP article on said city.


I could probably find some in-game literature on it too, If I had a look.


UESP isn't an authoritative source for lore of that type.

http://www.imperial-library.info/pge3/highrock.shtml has it that power is still fragmented, with Daggerfall and Wayrest being the leading kingdoms of the Bretons, Camlorn being allied with Daggerfall, and Northpoint and Evermore effectively independent due to distance from (and neglect by) the greater cities.

Elysana of Wayrest would have something very pointed to say about the Imperials ignoring her in favor of Daggerfall.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:03 am

I think this might be valid, just because I'm still convinced that Tamriel is a big spoof on the roman empire:

Unlike the mediterranean provinces that they cared more about, the Romans didn't really have an official capitol for Britannia, I'm preeeeety sure.

The attitude was more or less, "let those smelly Celts figure it out for themselves."
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 6:56 pm

UESP isn't an authoritative source for lore of that type.

I know - It is also mentioned in the http://www.imperial-library.info/dfbooks/b061_daggerfall_hist_2.shtml by Odiva Gallwood though.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:00 pm

I know - It is also mentioned in the http://www.imperial-library.info/dfbooks/b061_daggerfall_hist_2.shtml by Odiva Gallwood though.
That book is saying that Daggerfall City is the capitol of Daggerfall the Country. Not of High Rock.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:30 pm

That book is saying that Daggerfall City is the capitol of Daggerfall the Country. Not of High Rock.


The first use of the name Daggerfall to refer to the area around the current capitol...


That's actually pretty ambiguous and open to interpretation.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:58 pm

That's actually pretty ambiguous and open to interpretation.

If Daggerfall city was the capital of High Rock, the city would be named High Rock. That's how far the naming system goes.

We're talking about Bretons here. It took severe divine intervention to combine them into less than ten kingdoms, there's no shot in hell that they would accept a middle management ruler over their province like the Dark Elves did with Helseth.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 9:41 am



We're talking about Bretons here. It took severe divine intervention to combine them into less than ten kingdoms, there's no shot in hell that they would accept a middle management ruler over their province like the Dark Elves did with Helseth.

That, I'll buy.

But I don't know about the naming system because the capitol of Morrowind isn't Morrowind.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:32 pm

That, I'll buy.

But I don't know about the naming system because the capitol of Morrowind isn't Morrowind.


It's different because the Bretons are (dis)organized into city-states; the principal cities of Morrowind, on the other hand, are (were) the holy cities of their gods.
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Post » Fri Sep 17, 2010 11:23 pm

So I am a little confused - Most of the maps of Tamriel over at http://www.imperial-library.info/maps/maps_tamriel.shtml have Daggerfall noted as the capitol city in their legends, but apparently this is incorrect. If there is no political capitol, then why bother classifying it all as one province and naming it High Rock? I understand the fractured environment and political contention between the city-states but surely the Empire would've established a capitol to assert it's authority?

I was playing The Elder Scrolls II for the first time a few weeks ago and I thought I read somewhere in-game that Daggerfall was indeed the capitol - I will have to boot the game up again, I had trouble adjusting to it. Nevertheless, I have come to grips now that I am probably completely wrong.

Edit: I also found http://www.imperial-library.info/pge/map01.gif little map, which denotes all the capitals of Tamriel and has Daggerfall listed - It is from the Pocket Guide, First Edition though so that might damage it's credibility.

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