Province: Cyrodiil. Region #1, Stirk [WIP] : III - Morrowind

» Wed May 02, 2012 5:25 pm

I find it pretty hard to believe you are quite active on our forums if you don't even know of the island's size. Can't have more than one "village" on it, and while Stirk does have a lot of fishing going on, I'd hardly call it a fishing village.

Well when I said "little" I meant "not big" like other islands, if that makes any sense.
Helena said "the people of Stirk are largely hard-working fisher-folk" in http://www.provincecyrodiil.com/viewtopic.php?p=5645#p5645. I was just wondering how the government of Stirk is established or decided.

» Wed May 02, 2012 8:21 pm

There's a brief explanation on the http://stirk.provincecyrodiil.com/about.html, linked in the first post, but we don't want to give away too much.

» Wed May 02, 2012 8:56 am

There's a brief explanation on the http://stirk.provincecyrodiil.com/about.html, linked in the first post, but we don't want to give away too much.

Thanks for the link.
You look different today. New avatar?

» Wed May 02, 2012 8:30 pm

Will P:C have any unique Ayleid clutter in the Stirk release? Dwemer ruins in TES III felt a lot more realistic with all the personal effects like goblets, chairs, beds. Oblivion's Ayleid ruins only had magic rocks and 10 geometric statues. Way too "clean" :confused:

» Wed May 02, 2012 2:24 pm

Will P:C have any unique Ayleid clutter in the Stirk release? Dwemer ruins in TES III felt a lot more realistic with all the personal effects like goblets, chairs, beds. Oblivion's Ayleid ruins only had magic rocks and 10 geometric statues. Way too "clean" :confused:

I know, for those to be "cities" they sure looked like some random mazes underground.

» Wed May 02, 2012 9:19 pm

I always thought their settlements were located aboveground (like Mankar Camoran's palace and White-Gold Tower) and what we were raiding were crypts and temples. Doesn't make much sense for a race that literally worships air and light to cloister themselves away underground all the time.

» Wed May 02, 2012 1:20 pm

I know. They called them cities though. Matter of fact, that one Ayleid king had a throne in one of the ruins. Y'know, for the quest-line on the Ayleid Statues? We are off-topic as hell, eh?

» Wed May 02, 2012 10:29 am

Still could be a crypt. Plenty of Nordic tombs in Skyrim have thrones in them where you typically encounter a named Draugr. Or alternately, wasn't the king of Nenalata a lich anyway? That would also explain why he had a place to chill underground.

EDIT: But yeah, fairly off-topic, haha.

» Wed May 02, 2012 12:40 pm

Will P:C have any unique Ayleid clutter in the Stirk release? Dwemer ruins in TES III felt a lot more realistic with all the personal effects like goblets, chairs, beds. Oblivion's Ayleid ruins only had magic rocks and 10 geometric statues. Way too "clean" :confused:

we plan on it, + new creatures, skeletons are pretty boring...

although there's no much exiting about plates and cupboards. We've gotta find the medium between The Sims Aylieds! and Oblivion.

also, it's on topic, discussions about Cyrodiil could help when coming up with idea, although they're best to bad he at the forums.

» Wed May 02, 2012 11:18 am

The King of Nenalata wasn't a lich. Umbacano only turned into a lich when he turned into the king. As the king was dead.

Wolli: I agree skeletons are crap.

» Wed May 02, 2012 11:09 am

Question: what will the releases probably be? Considering how huge Cyrodiil is and how small Stirk is (although all the models had to be made from hand, where as in the future you can copy and paste more.)

I mean i'm going to guess and say it'll go City, City's county, next city, etc.

but is there any idea about this from the moders?

» Wed May 02, 2012 10:50 am

We work with regions, atm we work on the Gold Coast exterior while we do the interiors of Stirk. Once interiors of Stirk are ready we will have GC exterior nearly finished, and its cities partially built. NPCing and questing at Stirk can start.
This way everyone in the team can contibute all the time, maximizing input. Also going region by region makes it easier to have coherency in cluttering and worldbuilding.

At most we will work at three different regions, with graded level of detail;
exterioring & city building, interiors, NPCs and questing

Anvil is in planning, Sutch and Kvatch will soon follow.

» Wed May 02, 2012 2:57 pm

Question: what will the releases probably be? Considering how huge Cyrodiil is and how small Stirk is (although all the models had to be made from hand, where as in the future you can copy and paste more.)

I mean i'm going to guess and say it'll go City, City's county, next city, etc.

Big releases. Like, real big. Each region is basically a release, so the second release will be The Gold Coast with Anvil and Sutch included (I can't recall at the moment whether we are including Kvatch as well as that'd be overkill and it's precisely on the border between three regions, hard to say)
Stirk is only little because it's our first release, aiming to draw more attention to the project in general.

» Wed May 02, 2012 11:08 pm

Well, I dont think we will be waiting years for a release like TR. That sort of thing just looks bad. This is why I would advocate something every 6-12 months even if its only somehing like a beta. We will see though.

» Wed May 02, 2012 2:51 pm

Why would it look bad? It's not like we're getting paid for this.

Anyway, releasing something new every year would be great.

» Wed May 02, 2012 4:47 pm

Looking great so far.
In http://www.provincecyrodiil.com/coppermine/displayimage.php?pid=40&fullsize=1 picture it looks way larger than TR's Stirk for TES IV, like two or three times their size. Is that correct?
I can only remember, I was testing it some years ago & it wasn't that large.

» Wed May 02, 2012 3:41 pm

Oh yeah, it's larger as the Morrowind game world is larger in scale than Oblivion.
And the reason years and years before a new release looks bad is because people start to lose interest and get bored with what they already have. Keeping things fresh so that we can't literally go trough 300 playthroughs before a new release is a good idea. Unless progress is too slow, which will signal interest loss. TR just had to redo some things. P:C hopefully won't do stuff like that. No disrespect to TR.

» Wed May 02, 2012 10:29 am

This conversation probably isn't helpful to all the modders at TR.

just give them time, they'll get there. And if you're bored of TR map 1 and 2 download the map 4 alpha.

» Wed May 02, 2012 9:18 pm

Hey, I love TR and even recently got promoted for interiors. I'm just saying that they initially thought what they had was good but now, they want to make it better. It is just taking time and some people get restless. I wasn't able to even get TR until August of last year so...I can wait. Those who have waited since map 2's release may be getting restless. I'm guessing we are off-topic and such. You guys said you are making the province more tropic right? To go with lore? That will be a sight to behold when development gets far.

» Wed May 02, 2012 8:56 pm

And jungle. Like it says in the pocket book I think.

» Wed May 02, 2012 9:59 am

Yeah, that's technically tropic. Jungles are almost always tropic. At least as far as I know. (Watch me be wrong.)

» Wed May 02, 2012 11:05 am

Yeah, that's technically tropic. Jungles are almost always tropic. At least as far as I know. (Watch me be wrong.)

I don't know if you'd count it as "jungle" but New Zealand (for example) has some gorgeous lush rainforests, and is just a cool temperate environment. I'd really like to see something like that in PC, really, in Nibenay somewhere or something. http://stevetopper.com/oscommerce/images/Rain-Forest-Waterfall.jpg http://www.lurid.chuvashia.com/Premium%20Wallpapers%20%202007%20Collection%201/Montane%20Rainforest,%20Mount%20Kinabalu%20National%20Park,%20Borneo.jpg https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/286714/original/NZ05_2388.jpg

» Wed May 02, 2012 4:45 pm

...FKIN BEAUTIFUL.

» Wed May 02, 2012 6:10 pm

I don't know if you'd count it as "jungle" but New Zealand (for example) has some gorgeous lush rainforests, and is just a cool temperate environment. I'd really like to see something like that in PC, really, in Nibenay somewhere or something. http://stevetopper.com/oscommerce/images/Rain-Forest-Waterfall.jpg http://www.lurid.chuvashia.com/Premium%20Wallpapers%20%202007%20Collection%201/Montane%20Rainforest,%20Mount%20Kinabalu%20National%20Park,%20Borneo.jpg https://www.amherst.edu/media/view/286714/original/NZ05_2388.jpg

hahaha, i live in New Zealand, The concept post currently on the Forums for the Nibenay regions. full of North island Bush pictures.
http://imgs.mi9.com/uploads/landscape/4425/lush-forest-north-island-new-zealand_1280x1024_78341.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-aIwI14cE3ys/TZwMpztF4AI/AAAAAAAAAPQ/yJhO7o3Matw/s1600/Foggy+bush+Chatham+Island.JPG
http://www.new-zealand-pictures.co.nz/images/500/waiohine-river_372-369.jpg
http://richardtulloch.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/lake-waikaremoana-forest-red.jpg?w=500&h=666
http://www.eske-style.co.nz/images/Pukekura%20Park%20New%20Plymouth.jpg

Hell. Yeah.

» Wed May 02, 2012 8:50 am

That's how I imagine Valenwood myself. More forest than jungle.