A Province Divided OOC and Sign-Up Thread XI : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:10 am

Not really, war is about fighting, you bring soldiers to fight, they're trained to fight. Even marching from place to place is doing something, sitting around doing nothing is demoralising. Seeing as it's one of my favorite battles I'm going to cite the Penobscot Expedition here, the Americans landed a force of 870 militia (admittedly pisspoor militia) however they also had 2000 marines and seamen, of which the marines were some of the best troops in the army at the time. They landed against a fort which at the time had waist-high walls manned with 700 hundred redcoats. They failed to take the fort because they lacked momentum, they were unwilling to attack and every minute they spent on the beaches, 25th of July to the 13th of August, was weakening their forces, the militia (made up of press-ganged men) started to desert and they found themselves pinned by the British reinforcements. Momentum was key.

War is about fighting but it is still mostly just moving to position. And if I still continue without rebuilding the army, I will have a bigger chance of losing as I doubt I can take all of Cyrodiil with an army being weaken from every battle. And my men may also want to take a break from fighting after several weeks of fighting Skingrad. (That battle will probably decrease their moral so a break will help.) Speaking of Momentum, wouldn't your men at the fort lose momentum as they've been staying there the whole time?

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:21 am

The list of thing you guys don't know about my plans is so long it's scary. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbyP5PpSyBA...

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:04 pm

War is about fighting but it is still mostly just moving to position. And if I still continue without rebuilding the army, I will have a bigger chance of losing as I doubt I can take all of Cyrodiil with an army being weaken from every battle. And my men may also want to take a break from fighting after several weeks of fighting Skingrad. (That battle will probably decrease their moral so a break will help.) Speaking of Momentum, wouldn't your men at the fort lose momentum as they've been staying there the whole time?

They're defending not attacking, anyway they have a training ground set up and they're comfortable they have beds, good food and various other nice things. Your troops probably don't have tents and any food they have will have to be cooked in the field.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:18 am

The list of thing you guys don't know about my plans is so long it's scary. :wink:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PV4v0_hND0M&feature=related

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:03 pm

Just wait till Aventius comes to Skingrad... :devil:

Where is he exactly...?

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:16 am

They're defending not attacking, anyway they have a training ground set up and they're comfortable they have beds, good food and various other nice things. Your troops probably don't have tents and any food they have will have to be cooked in the field.

I see, though I figured that since they weren't going anywhere and haven't fought anyone besides two scouts, (Which wasn't a fight.) They may start losing it a little. I guess I may have been wrong. As for the my men, well they do have to cook food in the field but they did brought tents. Though no campfires since it is summer.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:27 am

Where is he exactly...?

Gold Road, he'll arrive to Skingrad by the 30th.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:53 pm

Gold Road, he'll arrive to Skingrad by the 30th.

Doesn't he need to get healed...?

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:03 am

I see, though I figured that since they weren't going anywhere and haven't fought anyone besides two scouts, (Which wasn't a fight.) They may start losing it a little. I guess I may have been wrong. As for the my men, well they do have to cook food in the field but they did brought tents. Though no campfires since it is summer.

I'm going to point you back to Duval's guide and his comment about weight and tents.

On the march - Human beings are reasonably sensible. Time and again simple soldiers prove that an army on campaign is an army that can travel light. During Sherman’s grand march through Georgia one of his bummers was kind enough to keep a good diary. In it he explained that he cut his blanket in half to save some weight. Now just stop and think about that for a second. If a pound and a half of extra blanket is that burdensome to merit chopping it in half, do you really thing your TES army feels like carrying around a pike, a longsword, and a shield and a crossbow on top of a suit of dwemer? Not likely. This brings me to another good point. Tents. Forget everything you’ve ever seen at a reenactment or in the movies. Big tents are heavy, difficult to dry and way to much effort to set up. Sure a general or a lord knight will get a spiffy tent, but by and large the PBI (Poor bloody infantry) will have to make due with shelter halves or even nothing at all.

Baggage - again, not the glorious thing that makes for a good movie or dramatic painting, but still vital. If you are going to carry around food, and tents and ammunition, and the inevitably necessary medical supplies, it has to be carried somewhere. The army is usually followed by a long line of carts, mules, spare horses, wagons, camp followers, sutlers, etc. This baggage train will also contain your vital pay chests that allow you to keep such a large army together. To lose your baggage train is basically the death knell of your campaign, no food, no supplies no money. It’s http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman%27s_March to campaign without a baggage train, but it puts a huge strain on your men.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:58 pm

Oh and to the rest of my fellow RPers, it seems we are soon to reach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jcAfTFXIVk&feature=g-user-u without the crap endings though

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:10 pm

Oh and to the rest of my fellow RPers, it seems we are soon to reach http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jcAfTFXIVk&feature=g-user-u without the crap endings though :wink:

This is not the end, this isn't even the beginning of the end, this is the end of the beginning.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:11 pm

This is not the end, this isn't even the beginning of the end, this is the end of the beginning.

So more of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgySUiuoVak&list=PLC88E6FF114B63ED2&index=3&feature=plpp_video

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 12:30 pm

So more of http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgySUiuoVak&list=PLC88E6FF114B63ED2&index=3&feature=plpp_video

The Reman Civil War is about to erupt, ending an era, once and for all.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 5:09 pm

The Reman Civil War is about to erupt, ending an era, once and for all.

I wont let Flavius die... he mustn't fail... have faith. (also when are we going to do that plot twist we discussed in PM...)

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:24 am

I wont let Flavius die... he mustn't fail... have faith. (also when are we going to do that plot twist we discussed in PM...)

I'd say during the height of the war.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:53 am

I'd say during the height of the war.

So to PM again...

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:52 pm

WITYM, there's your replies for everywhere except Skingrad, I just need Sybbyl to reply.

» Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:34 am

Can I suggest that http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1343911-geraldduvals-guide-to-battle-rps-reposted/ is edited into the OP.