Well the hardware possibilities for computers are immense. You can constantly upgrade a PC to make it faster, more efficient, etc. Consoles can't be updgraded legally by a person. M$ and Sony do that part. Consoles could do that if they were given all the hardware and programs a computer had. But why bother? When we have computers...

eh...he is speaking of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_access_memory, not disk space, a PS3 only have 256MB...not GB

my bad i meant 256mb of RAM, please calm down, everyone makes mistakes, i still fail to see why it could not appear on the ps3.

256MB of RAM is nowhere near enough to run the GECK.

Neither Sony or Microsoft allow it.

1. No, it can't/doesn't.
2. Not only is the software for Windows, but the UI is waaaaaaay too complex to use without a keyboard and a mouse.
3. The GECK is only one piece of the equation...you need other (complex) software to work with meshes, textures, audio, etc.
4. You need a PC-like file system to organize the assets you're using in your mod or someone would have to write software to help do this for you.
5. As has been said, Sony and Microsoft won't allow it.

I'm sorry, but it can't/won't happen. You're also making some pretty outrageous claims that are easily proven wrong with a little bit of research. Best to let this one go, my friend.

The reasons have been explained several times.

Hardware limitations.
Software limitations.
Legal limitations.

2 words

legal issues

ok i get it theres legal stuff andthey wont do it i get that its not happening but i still think the ps3 has the ability to do it

you can use a memory stick in the ps3 and use it as spare RAM, just as with a computer.

But it doesn't. You can't "think" this one. It is proven fact that the PS3 and Xbox 360 can't run the G.E.C.K.. At all.

Thats still Hard Drive Space, That isn't RAM. :facepalm:

Storage Memory (On a memory stick) is completely different to RAM. (On chips that are inside the computer/console and make it run)

Really, now?

Please provide evidence for this. I've never heard of it.

We may need to get a stickied thread about this or something so mods can point to it. Best to get a person from Bethesda Softworks or something to write it up.

Basically here's the information that I have been told, heard, read, had explained to me, etc... however you want to put it.

Consoles have very different coding than PCs which makes them difficult create for and ontop of that when you start talking about player created content it creates an even bigger problem. As a FINAL and I do mean ABSOLUTE 100% FINAL NAIL IN THE COFFIN consoles are "closed" systems not open like your beloved PC. When creating games for PCs you have ALOT of freedom, but with consoles the company that made that console calls ALL the shots. This goes back to Nintendo when they brought out the NES and had several lawsuits against game companies that were making cartridges for their console against their wishes. As time went on this gradually become the norm where you have to contact the console provider and have to make a game within their parameters for it to be accepted.

Another thing is consoles are all about the $$$$ since the time, effort, and resources put into their creation have to be...recuperated in some way i'll say. They do this in the form of exclusive titles, games that have DLC, etc... which is why few games have Player Created Content. Also when those games do have player created content it is content that can only be created using that game. You can't go onto your PC, make content, then put it onto the console of your choice since that would seriously kill the console maker's chance of gaining money. Only 1 company I know of has a way to create player materials for their system and that is Microsoft. Have to spend I think $90 to purchase the XNA game kit which allows you to make games for the XBox360.

Even with ALL of that said to put it even simpler and as others have stated. THERE WILL BE NO GECK FOR THE PS3 NOR FOR THE 360 IT JUST WON'T HAPPEN PERIOD!!! Only way the geck will come to the PS3/360 is if Sony/Microsoft tells Oblivion or Bethesda "Make the Geck Available for our console system" and sadly even then the only thing the geck will probably be able to do is make levels nothing more.

Several reasons:

1. Legally it is not allowed, there is no agreement between Bethesda and Sony to allow it, so it isn't going to be developed for the PS/3 irregardless of whether or not it Could run the GECK.

2. Modding requires alot more than the GECK to work, you need several support programs, lots of disk space and Tons of ram. The PS/3 simply lacks the capacity to work on mods, even if you Think it shouldn't.

3. The GECK was built for use on the PC, so that PC developers could make the games. To port the GECK to the PS/3 or Xbox would be an Enormous undertaking and would cost Alot of money. As the GECK is free, there is no financial incentive to do it.

So legally, financially and practically it is impractical to consider the GECK for the consoles.

Thank you, drive through.

ok ok, i accept when i am wrong. I am an optimistic person, as you can see by my username. I just wished to give myself, ps3 users and the OP some hope and insight. However they could make a built in Lite version of the GECK for the ps3. Considering their is 52Gb of disk space on the ps3.

You mean 512 MB. (the smaller measurement)

Unless you mean hard drive memory. Which is immaterial.


And they won't spend time and money making another editor.

Couldn't the PS3 just use HDD space in place of a ram upgrade? I think that's why devs are allowing games to install to HDDs.

No, it doesn't work like that.

I'll wait for one of the techies(probably Softnerd) to give you an explanation.

I don't think you're understanding what the GECK is and what is involved in creating a mod. Start here: http://geck.gamesas.com/index.php/Main_Page


No offense, but why would Bethesda spend all that time and money to create a "GECK Lite" when Sony strictly forbids the use of such a thing on their console?

What part of "legal issues" is unclear?

Even if it Could, it Wont!

Hard Drive space is used for STORAGE.

RAM is used for MAKING THINGS WORK.


They are not the same thing, one cannot be used to do the task of the other.

i meant the blue ray disk. but yeah i guess.

Computers don't work like that (and the PS3 is a computer, make no mistake). RAM and storage don't serve the same purpose.

How the heck did this thread get two pages long?

Usually, what will happene whenever these threads pop up is a Mod comes in, says something along the likes of...

"Sony and Microsoft have banned the use of 3rd party programs on their consoles, and this is not up for discussion. Thread Locked."

Either this Thread got active fast... or the Mods are slow on the uptake with this one...

But, yeah, the PS3 and 360 are built purely for playing games and/or DVDs, not for building them- they MIGHT be able to put in a "Lite" version of the GECK, but it would end up being basically a map editor, and not worthy of the name "GECK."

i understand what everyone is saying. But aren't you being a little closed minded, favouring your machine. I have heard a lot of stupider requests.