PSA: We need to support each other and just have fun!

Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:46 pm

I have been a PC gamer for a good long time now, and I had a PS2 way back when but never owned an Xbox though I started out with Nintendo consoles when I was a kiddie. Console Wars is something I have seen on the internet for a long time, and obviously you have too. I usually just sit back and watch the bickering until something is brought up that actually may affect me. But there is something worse than that IMO: Console Wars within a community.

Since joining these forums, I have seen the diverse posts from civil to flame bait between PC, Xbox, and PS owners. Once I started to notice how much Bethesda seems to prefer (keyword: prefer, not favor) Xbox when showing demos and revealing stuff, I thought it was odd but I didn't mind much since I was PC.

Once the next-gen became the current gen, I decided to jump to console instead of upgrading since I don't really use much mods anyway. I went with PS4 since I am familiar with Sony and PS, and not with Microsoft and Xbox (Even though some things MS have done in the past I don't agree with...).

Long story short, I deep down wondered if I should of gotten a Xbox One but I didn't want to be that guy so I shrugged it off and enjoyed it. Once E3 2015 hit, it was interesting to see Xbox One and Bethesda team up again but even for a greater cause: Backwards compatibility and mods for Fallout 4.

I was confused at first, even posting in CD that I may trade my PS4 for a Xbox One or just buying one...but then I went to my senses and thought "I don't use many mods, just patches..." "Whatever titles Bethesda approves to be available for backwards compatibility I already have on PC anyway..." "B-b-but I kind of feel left out by Bethesda a bit...". Which I did feel a tad left out even though I felt this was as a PC gamer when Skyrim had the timed DLC with MS.

So going around the Fallout 4 boards, I notice some felt the same way, if not, similar. A few flame baits here and there from both sides while some were civil about it. I was a mix of both but one thing struck me after reading a comment over on Reddit: Just have fun and support each other!

And I am not meaning just in general, also for all of us here at the Bethesda forums! I redact the bitter things I said earlier in other threads but despite being on PC, PS4 or Xbox One or who gets pampered and who gets the short end of the stick, we are one united community of gamers and should just have fun!

As a PC and PS4 gamer, I congratulate Bethesda and the Xbox One owners here for the backwards compatibility, mods, and the different exclusives you get and may get in the future. That aside, lets all look forward to Fallout 4 and have some fun here! If something like today happens again where it is in Xbox One's favor, just say gg! And if something happens in PC or PS4 favor over Xbox One, then we are even! :tongue: Jk, but still, whatever news brings that separates or brings closer the 3 different platforms, we need to remember we are in it for the same thing: Fallout 4!

So lets all just get it out of our systems and embrace Fallout 4 and Bethesda as one, diverse community!

gg PC

gg PS4

gg Xbox One

gg Bethesda

:tops:

Also, for curiosity sake, I added a poll for which platform(s) you will get Fallout 4 on :user:

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A Boy called Marilyn
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:14 am

Unless I shown the lack of mods on the PS4 is on Sony. I can't support Bethesda and this type of practice so sorry on that. So right now my platform is none. That this kinda was needed and I hope you guys enjoy FO4.

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Kari Depp
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:51 am

It could have been the source or the compression, but the framerate looked a little chunky on the Microsoft conference demo. I hope it runs really well on the Xbox One and PS4, but I've gotten so used to 60fps gaming that 30 and below feels unbearable. I am really excited that consoles seem to be getting mods now.

But I pretty much do everything on my PC, from my TV watching, to working, to gaming. And I live for Bethesda games, so I'm taking the opportunity to upgrade my system.

Intel i7 4790k processor 4.00 ghz

2 Nvidia 970 GTX cards in SLI mode

32 GB of RAM

Upgrading to a SSD as well.

I use the PC for graphics work too, so the set-up isn't just for gaming. But Fallout 4 is definitely what prompted me to choose to upgrade now instead of putting it off any longer.

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Poetic Vice
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:25 pm

I'm totally against the idea of consoles in every way. Sorry.

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brandon frier
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:25 am

Will likely get it on the X1 first since it is likely my PC can not handle it or at least not that well. I will be getting it for the PC at sometime maybe a year or two later when GOTY edition comes out. Maybe at a later time if have a PS4 then I might get it for that platform as well.

I do not care that much for mods for the consoles since I have feeling it will not work out that well and be a major headache to get mods to work well since you are likely not have tools to make mods play well with others. Besides What I have seen in the demos I do not think I will even need mods for the PC unless it is an Unofficial Patch and even that I do not know if it is needed since I never needed one on FO3/NV.

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Avril Louise
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 10:08 am

I will give credit to Bethesda - I've felt the need to use less mods with each game they release. I felt I needed a ton of them in Morrowind, but over each release I've installed fewer and fewer. I had maybe only 5-10 mods installed in Skyrim, and half of those were texture mods.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:13 am

Hooray for optimism!

But anyway, what do you need to make these mods? A PC! Glorious PC Master Race!

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Eire Charlotta
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 12:02 am

Never know. id made SnapMap for Doom to work on consoles. And the GECK for FO4 isn't releasing until Spring 2016 - maybe to make sure it is ready for console use as well? Bethesda did say that they considered modding the most important aspect of their games at the E3 presentation.

Just one glorious member of the PC Master Race urging caution to another. :wink:

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Anna Beattie
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:48 am

Gamecube gamers are the master race.

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asako
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:02 am

Atari 2600 gamers might be the master race, but sadly most were lost when E.T. was released. :devil:

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Zach Hunter
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:44 am

Step aside everyone, Ouya Master race reporting in.

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Ludivine Dupuy
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:15 am

My PC is getting old so Xbox.

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Mr. Ray
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:29 am

Xbox for sure. Who knows when or if playstation will even get mods? I feel bad for them I really do.
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sarah simon-rogaume
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:27 am

PC, i played both Fallout 3 and Oblivion first on console and later on PC, ods trumped everything the XBox offered me and there were also less crashes after installing the right stuff. I will only get a new GPU for F4,even though i think my 660ti should be enough i want better options.

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Davorah Katz
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:47 am

Probably going to start off with the Xbox One version. I have a PC I could play it on, but I just recently got my console and am having lots of fun with it so far.
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Scott Clemmons
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:00 am

Getting the Xbox One version. I got excited when I learned Fallout 3 will be included with the X1 versions of Fallout 4! More greatness.

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Kortniie Dumont
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:39 am

If my pc can handle it I will buy it on pc. If not Xbox One. I need my mods, they add longevity to Beth's games.

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Life long Observer
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:42 pm

Spring 2016? Are you sure about that? I did not hear that watching the E3 conference.

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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:15 am

I think I heard it or read it that the Editior will be coming out sometime in early 2016 and likely mods will not be available for X1 at least until sometime after the tool is released. Games these days are worked on until the game is live and then the editor is usually polished up and made easier for the community to make mods.

Likely Bethesda will have to add a built in Mod Manager for the game and hopefully some sort of tool that help sorts out mods for the X1 and maybe PS4 consoles. It might also be nice if it was on the PC as well.

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Jimmie Allen
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:42 pm

Why not a 980Ti instead of going SLI? Similar performance, but you get 6 GB of GDDR5 ram vs just 3.5GB GDDR5 in SLI. Some ram hungry mods will be out soon after the game is released, I'm sure. Plus, why do you need that much system ram?

I agree with most of what you said about developers needing the console install base. It's just that we all assume that if you are a Fallout fan that you are tech savy enough and have enough disposable income to build a good gaming PC if you wanted to. You can build a solid relatively future proof PC for under $900. You don't have to max everything out or run games at like 144fps. 60fps, 1080p, 4XMSAA, with high to mid textures etc. etc. will look really good.

I see people buying PC's for like $1000 and not even being able to game on them because they put in a 650ti or integrated graphics. It's a shame really. If a PS4/XB1 is what you feel comfortable with in terms of spending then that's fine too, but if you are buying a $600 PC and a $400 console you could just add a $300 GPU to that $600 PC instead.

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danni Marchant
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 9:02 am

Consoles do negatively affect highend PC game development, BUT developers can't make big budget games with just the PC player base. I cringe when I hear someone say they are going to pick up Fallout 4 when there is a steam sale for $20. People vote with their money at the end of the day.

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Stephanie Nieves
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:11 am

I used to buy games for $60 wholesale without reading reviews or anything. I haven't done that in years and the reason why is because games in general are getting crappier by the year. Sure, a lot of people are cheap, but I'm willing to bet a lot of it is because they are more apprehensive than cheap.

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Bonnie Clyde
 
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Post » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:29 pm

That maybe because the PC port was 50 shades of crap. I bought it for PC and really wish I hadn't.

Anyway, the 'Steam Machine[s]' should be out by the time Fallout 4 is released. Then you can have the best, or worst, of both worlds.

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Jesus Duran
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 4:21 am

It's hard to suport PC when even the games companies dont like them. Consoles reduce piracy. Thats what companies care about. Not your resolution.

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Kevan Olson
 
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Post » Fri Nov 27, 2015 1:40 am

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/04/28/as-global-pc-game-revenue-surpasses-consoles-how-long-should-console-makers-keep-fighting/

This is why so many games are finding their way to the PC, even Japanese titles are appearing on Steam, something that was very unusual a few years back.

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