Did I not mention Hacking in my post as that too is a problem. Sony is at fault for having bad security but who breached it in the 1st place. That is the real culprit whether they be pirates looking to pirate a game or somebody with an agenda against sony (Microsoft?) or someone who just want's to get extra money and realizes that the PS3 doesn't exactly have the strongest security system. Shut down both of those opening and all you'll have is a rogue person looking to make an extra buck.

That doesn't cut it for me.

That's just too bad, sending 77 million emails takes a long time. There's no way around that, 77 million is a big number.

There's 77 million unique PSN members?

I think the number is somewhere around there, but even if it's a few million lower it's going to take a very long time to send all those emails.

Not if a computer auto sends the emails. The Emails aren't the answer though as I would rather hear it from Sony then recieve a letter telling us that "We're sorry that your credit card number got leaked to X Hacker, how about 6 months free for Multiplayer".

No you pick a target adn then try to hack it.

Also your social security number is with teh government, so unless they can provide identification which you dont have on your PSN (I believe), then you should nto worry about that.

And some are more secure than others. :confused:

That's what I thought. Thanks.

Yes but for all any of you know MS system is just as secure than Sony's, and these guy's who did it just decided to not hack MS because they decided not to.

Maybe the people who did it have Xboxes and thats why they did nto do it/

I really hope you don't think that any company in the world manually types out emails. 77 million is a really freaking huge number, and email sending is relatively slow. There's an entire industry of companies dedicated to sending mailing lists to thousands of users - it takes time. There is no way around that.


In this case, the vulnerability was stumbled upon. If you don't have any painfully obvious vulnerabilities, that doesn't happen. I could "decide" to hack the FBI, but that doesn't mean it's going to happen, does it?

Yes ths is true, you could try to hack the FBI but it might nto work. And I do believe thsi vulnerability was stumbled upon, because I highly doubt Sony went around tellign everyone about the flaws in their security system.

Plus did the dbag responsible or what nto say ti was for intrnet rights adn to amke people use Xbox or something. You knwo the guy that calls himself "Anonymous" or whatever.

So is there any part of the situation you're not ignorant about?
Your hollywood view of hacking is quite simply not how it works, your console war mentality does not stretch out into the real world, where people who actually have the ability to do something like this live, and even delving back into the internet equivilent of the schoolyard, anonymous is not a person, and is barely even a defined group.

"Anonymous" is not one person.

This always reminds me of the Geth

Could ya give us a link please i looked but couldnt find anything.

I found something on it.

we are everyone, we are everywhere. :ninja:

just kidding, they are just a bunch of trolls with to much time on their hands, who decide to all consider themselves "freedom fighters" when all they really do is annoy people.

then when 1 Anon is smart enough to go through with something, they all act like they played some part in it.

Thanks for filling me in... You _______ ____.

And your perfectly reasonable view of hacking where you know everything is always right cause your the cream of the crop and everyone else is so dumb, please do explain to em how ti works.

Did they not pick a target adn then proceed to try to hack it. Their motivations are perfectly clear and MS would have been a prefectly valid target.




And the point of underlinign my incorrectly spelled words was????

[censored] these stupid [censored] hackers!

I didn't put any personal details on PSN, but this is worrying. I hope that all of those hackers get life sentences. I really want to download demos and crap like that.

Judge- for annoying over 77 million people, i think a fitting punishment would for you to be devoured by Feral LOL CATZ , the ones you people seem to love so much.

Anon-nooooooooooo

We all agree but its very difficult catching the culprit(s). For example; they could've gone to a public computer (library) and then they could've forwarded their IP to another country so they couldn't be traced.

The phrase "nerds will inherit the earth" becomes truer every day!

I try not to speak unless I have evidence for what I'm saying, so yes, I do tend to be right.
"Hacking" is too vague a term to really mean anything, even in this context, but for this specific scenario, it was a major flaw in sony's network security. It was not "some guys" who decided one day "Gee, I really love my xbox, let's hack sony!", it was an unavoidable consequence of people starting to poke at sony's network, which they could do because of the recent breaking of their flawed encryption methods on the console itself. I'm not even sure where your opinion is coming from, certainly xbox live *could* have flaws, but you can be sure people *are* looking for them, and have *not* found any. There is not one group of "hackers" who control everything. "Hacking" is not a war of attrition where even the mightiest will inevitably fall. Sony's network had a massive, gaping security hole, and, as all massive, gaping security holes are, it was exploited. That's what happens when your network has a massive security hole. If Xbox live had similar vulnerabilities, it would also be exploited.

The thing is, people grow out of console wars. Not everything that happens around one console is fueled by hatred for the other, and there are enough people in the world with enough different motivations that any security hole you ever have will be exploited - that's why you try not to have them. Certainly, a motivation of whoever first breached this network *could* have been "Gee, I really love my xbox, let's hack sony", but that really makes absolutely no difference to why it happened, because if they hadn't done it, somebody who wanted to pirate games, or steal credit card details, or simply watch the world burn, would have. At the end of the day, security holes are invariably exploited, and there are enough motivations in the world that every large system will be poked and prodded, and the specific motivations really don't mean jack [censored]. PSN was hacked because it had a security vulnerability, and there is really nothing more to it.

If the library has a camera and they aren't wearing sunglasses then they'll have their face on recorded tape. I do agree that it's very hard to track this sort of stuff because the people that do this type of thing are geniuses in that field.

How would they know the library...they would know the person through the computer, so if it can't be traced no luck. They can't ask around librariesasking "Have you seen this man?" when they don't know who they're looking for...