PSN still down. : Othor Games

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 5:30 am

Your right but this group could have just as easily decided to hack Microsoft and steal their information.

You don't know that.

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:21 am

I have absolutely no idea how such a huge flaw in security (having absolutely no checks on the devnet network and then CONNECTING IT WITH PSN) made it through the company. Surely any competent security advisor or technician would have had to willfully ignore such a huge risk for it to be implemented in such a half hearted and sloppy way.

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:34 am

You don't know that.

If they hacked Sony's system so easily, I'm pretty sure they would be able to hack MS's. Even if it was slightly better (which I'm not implying at all) they could defiitely do some damage.

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:34 am

If they hacked Sony's system so easily, I'm pretty sure they would be able to hack MS's. Even if it was slightly better (which I'm not implying at all) they could defiitely do some damage.

Do you know this or are you making assumptions?

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:03 am

Do you know this or are you making assumptions?

He's making inferences. :geek:

» Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:47 pm

If they hacked Sony's system so easily, I'm pretty sure they would be able to hack MS's. Even if it was slightly better (which I'm not implying at all) they could defiitely do some damage.

Unless you have some inside information on how MS secure their account information, I'm pretty sure that "pretty sure" is just speculation. Hacking doesn't work like that. An anology, if I may:

a burglar that can break into a house with an unlocked door and a giant sign saying "ROB ME" probably won't be able to break into an alarmed house with a locked door quite as easily. I am not defending MS here, I'm putting down Sony for their incompetence that has put my (and many others) personal information at risk.

» Sat Jan 22, 2011 11:49 pm

so is nexus(modding site) its technology its not reliable

TES Nexus, F:NV Nexus, and FO3 are all working perfectly fine for me.

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 4:12 am

So what does this mean exactly for PS3 owners. (please enlighten those of us who don't own a PS3)

Are you still able to access and play your DLC content? Does it prevent you from installing or playing new games?

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:20 am

You do realise that this could have happened to Xbox right.

ya, though I have never had it happen to me before when i have had Xbox live. so right now it is invincible to me. Once it dies on me I will probably be saying bad things about it, and cursing microsoft for making such a cheap product. :turned:

My Girlfriend's little brother is going crazy that PSN is down. Every time I go to her house he is always on there seeing if it is back on or not. poor guy.. he has an addiction..

» Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:17 pm

Do you know this or are you making assumptions?

I know this :rolleyes:

Unless you have some inside information on how MS secure their account information, I'm pretty sure that "pretty sure" is just speculation. Hacking doesn't work like that. An anology, if I may:

a burglar that can break into a house with an unlocked door and a giant sign saying "ROB ME" probably won't be able to break into an alarmed house with a locked door quite as easily. I am not defending MS here, I'm putting down Sony for their incompetence that has put my (and many others) personal information at risk.

I get you. I'm just saying hackers would be able to damage MSs system in some way or another :shrug: Something this big? I don't know, maybe :shrug:

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 1:47 am

Unless you have some inside information on how MS secure their account information, I'm pretty sure that "pretty sure" is just speculation. Hacking doesn't work like that. An anology, if I may:a burglar that can break into a house with an unlocked door and a giant sign saying "ROB ME" probably won't be able to break into an alarmed house with a locked door quite as easily. I am not defending MS here, I'm putting down Sony for their incompetence that has put my (and many others) personal information at risk.

And you are making an assumption that MS is leagues ahead of Sony, if Sony used a system like this one, ti si pretty safe to assume MS would also approve a similar system.

So what does this mean exactly for PS3 owners. (please enlighten those of us who don't own a PS3)Are you still able to access and play your DLC content? Does it prevent you from installing or playing new games?

You can play every game, DLC, watch movies everythign normal, you just can access the PSN.

This si equivalent to Xbox Live, So basically if you are an Xbox owner, imagine nto being able to use Xbox Live. You cannot compare stats, enter the marketplace, download, have party chat, use your avatars etc...

» Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:14 pm

And you are making an assumption that MS is leagues ahead of Sony, if Sony used a system like this one, ti si pretty safe to assume MS would also approve a similar system.

And you are making an assumption that Microsoft use a similar system as Sony. Why does Sony having a certain system mean that Microsoft have a similar one?

» Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:41 pm

And you are making an assumption that Microsoft use a similar system as Sony. Why does Sony having a certain system mean that Microsoft have a similar one?

We are all making assumptions. Unless one of us here works at either place we have no idea. But it's probable (assuming) that MS is at the same league tha Sony, there's no logical reason they would be light years ahead :shrug:

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:51 am

And you are making an assumption that Microsoft use a similar system as Sony. Why does Sony having a certain system mean that Microsoft have a similar one?

And you are making an assumption that MS is leagues ahead of Sony, yet have no proof. Why does Sony having a system that is bad, mean that MS has one that is better, when this one was deemed a perfectly accpetable system to eb used by a corporation with 75 Million usersé

EDIT: Lolwut, my question mark button came up as a accented E, does anyone know how to fix this

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 9:30 am

And you are making an assumption that MS is leagues ahead of Sony, yet have no proof. Why does Sony having a system that is bad, mean that MS has one that is better, when this one was deemed a perfectly accpetable system to eb used by a corporation with 75 Million users?

Sorry, where did I make an assumption? All I did was ask you a question.

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:20 am

so the ps3 fan boys at my school were all pissed off and i just had to rub it in their faces

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And i remember a DDoS attack on microsoft which crippled live for a day or two if i can remember correctly. hope it get rectified soon so yall can get back to gaming.

And another thing, if developers didnt focus so much on their multiplayer and made amazing SP, then this wouldnt be so bad.

» Sat Jan 22, 2011 8:45 pm

Sorry, where did I make an assumption? All I did was ask you a question.

Yeah not sure where they're getting the "Leagues ahead of Sony" bit.

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:09 am

And you are making an assumption that MS is leagues ahead of Sony, if Sony used a system like this one, ti si pretty safe to assume MS would also approve a similar system.

You can play every game, DLC, watch movies everythign normal, you just can access the PSN.

This si equivalent to Xbox Live, So basically if you are an Xbox owner, imagine nto being able to use Xbox Live. You cannot compare stats, enter the marketplace, download, have party chat, use your avatars etc...

To be perfectly honest, in this case I am stating that MS is leagues ahead of Sony in this small respect simply because anyone who implements a standard security system (and I know for a fact that XBL doesn't handle it's devnet stuff the same way) is leagues ahead of Sony in regards to security. It's not that microsoft is any good, it's that Sony have failed so terribly and utterly.

tl;dr anyone who can use any sort of standard security procedures is doing much better than Sony right now.

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 6:16 am

so the ps3 [censored] at my school were all pissed off and i just had to rub it in their faces

.

And i remember a DDoS attack on microsoft which crippled live for a day or two if i can remember correctly. hope it get rectified soon so yall can get back to gaming.

And another thing, if developers didnt focus so much on their multiplayer and made amazing SP, then this wouldnt be so bad.

The problem is one particular game I recently bought has a great, long single-player campaign that is made much better by playing online (the online mode augments the single-player experience, basically). That game is Demon's Souls and it's just not the same without the PSN being up.

» Sat Jan 22, 2011 7:09 pm

And another thing, if developers didnt focus so much on their multiplayer and made amazing SP, then this wouldnt be so bad.

I agree and a major reason why I don't play alot of online mutiplayer based games. As long as I can still play games on my unit I couldn't care less :shrug: .

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 12:33 am

I agree and a major reason why I don't play alot of online mutiplayer based games. As long as I can still play games on my unit I couldn't care less :shrug: .

Also, Netflix is tied to the PSN and downloading stuff from the PS Store is difficult (read: impossible) with the PSN down. I don't play any online games whatsoever outside of Demon's Souls, but this is still an inconvenience. I wanted to download some Final Fantasy games.

» Sat Jan 22, 2011 6:51 pm

Also, Netflix is tied to the PSN and downloading stuff from the PS Store is difficult (read: impossible) with the PSN down. I don't play any online games whatsoever outside of Demon's Souls, but this is still an inconvenience. I wanted to download some Final Fantasy games.

You can still access Netflix iirc, it just takes a lot of connecting til it finally gets let through.

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 8:46 am

So what does this mean exactly for PS3 owners. (please enlighten those of us who don't own a PS3)

Are you still able to access and play your DLC content? Does it prevent you from installing or playing new games?

Nothing like that, just unable to buy new stuff, play online and download patches.

» Sat Jan 22, 2011 10:03 pm

Nothing like that, just unable to buy new stuff, play online and download patches.

you can still download patches. I did.

» Sun Jan 23, 2011 10:05 am

I'm unsure if this has been posted, but it looks like http://www.gamearena.com.au/news/read.php/5093497?latest=1. If you use your PSN password/username for anything else you may want to change it ASAP, as well as possibly checking credit cards if you've used them for PSN purchases.