PSN update *info on accounts*

Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:54 pm

I've just checked German and Irish laws, and while I can't find anything about the home situation, my second citizenship in Germany makes Sony perfectly suable should my data be compromised due to §42a if the federal data protection act. It states that Sony should have notified customers the moment they had cut access to that data off - meaning the 19th, in this case, when the servers went offline.
At least the law is on our side here.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:04 pm

Yup I may have been compromised as well and i've already taken appropriate precautions. Gone to the bank today and talked to financial adviser who said if I didn't need my debit/CC for anything that I cancel it and get a new one. Taken the liberty of canceling my current one and having a new one issued. I've also changed the password on my bank account to a new one as an added precaution incase the hackers try to get their hands on the cash. As a third precautionary measure I have separate accounts and have my Debit/CC linked to just 1 then filter money into that one in case of something like this happening.

Also wanted to come in and say some of you disgust me with your posts. Sony is indeed at fault, but you need to remember the primary person at fault here is the hacker for committing the crime. Sony didn't open up it's doors and say "Mr. Hacker please come take this information from us" deciding to blatantly screw over their customer base. That hacker is the one that went into the system and potentially stole the information and is the one that needs to garner your hatred, ire, angst, anger, etc... . I am going to say kudos to Sony since they understand they F'd up and are trying to fix the problem.

If some of you want to sit around and whine about it fine I hope you get your stuff stolen. As for me and the others out there we are going to do something about it and properly protect ourselves. Also for you microsoft people I say get out and go play your stupid system and sit in whimsical bliss that believe you are 100% from ever having your crap stolen.

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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:03 am

Also wanted to come in and say some of you disgust me with your posts. Sony is indeed at fault, but you need to remember the primary person at fault here is the hacker for committing the crime. Sony didn't open up it's doors and say "Mr. Hacker please come take this information from us" deciding to blatantly screw over their customer base. That hacker is the one that went into the system and potentially stole the information and is the one that needs to garner your hatred, ire, angst, anger, etc... . I am going to say kudos to Sony since they understand they F'd up and are trying to fix the problem.


Well sony's main problem is they had little to no security on the personal info.

Basically there was a keypad(With a long sequence unlikely to be broken, until that Geohotz fiasco), and beyond that there was http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=302. Almost everything was in plaintext...no security measures for accessing the data, and they didn't even notice the intrusion til a few days after the fact. That's some bad security practices right there.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:31 pm

Basically there was a keypad(With a long sequence unlikely to be broken, until that Geohotz fiasco), and beyond that there was http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=302. Almost everything was in plaintext...no security measures for accessing the data, and they didn't even notice the intrusion til a few days after the fact. That's some bad security practices right there.

Another fine example, but the "ideal" solution is not much more intricate - it's just that you need a pair of special glasses to read those pages there, after you broke the padlock.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 7:46 pm

Another fine example, but the "ideal" solution is not much more intricate - it's just that you need a pair of special glasses to read those pages there, after you broke the padlock.

In the case of passwords, the ideal solution is never storing the passwords at all. There's a box you can put a password in, and if it's right, it'll go green, otherwise it'll go red, but there's no way to get the password out of it.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:48 pm


Rothken's San Francisco-based law firm filed the suit Wednesday in the U.S. district court for the northern district of California on behalf of Birmingham, Ala., resident Kristopher Johns and other PlayStation Network and Qriocity subscribers who suffered loss of service or breach of security on or about April 17 and 19.



so did this guy actually "suffer a breach of security"?

from the same article...

Late Wednesday, Sony posted an updated FAQ on its PlayStation blog clarifying that users' credit card information was encrypted and there was no evidence that it had been taken. However, it said the possibility could not be ruled out.


So it was encrypted. There "plaintext" probably showed:

(ex.) XXXX XXXX XXXX 6249
exp. date: 06/14

John Smith
Whogivesa[censored] Lane
Nowhere, New Nowhere
847563
(or F3D 7A5 if your a fellow Canadian. I don't know what other countries use as postal/zip codes. I just figured the majority of the forum-folk were American.)

So I think were safe. And I'm pretty sure Sony said they didn't get the CCV number, if they even ask for that. some people companies/businesses don't.

Other personal information was not encrypted but was "behind a very sophisticated security system that was breached in a malicious attack," the blog added.


"Very sophisticated" my [censored] ass. you trying to tell us the hackers have access to "more sophisticated" technology in order to hack it than your "very sophisticated security system"? Oh, right, I'm sorry, they termed it as "malicious".

source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/04/28/technology-sony-playstation-data-breach-lawsuit.html
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:14 am

I don't have a PS3, but I have a PSP that I download PS1 games from PSN to from time to time. It's good to know that the credit card data was encrypted, but why the HELL wasn't the other personal data? Guess I've got to brace myself for about a hundred e-mails advertising "Pills from Canadian Pharmacy!".
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:24 am

"Very sophisticated" my [censored] ass. you trying to tell us the hackers have access to "more sophisticated" technology in order to hack it than your "very sophisticated security system"? Oh, right, I'm sorry, they termed it as "malicious".

source: http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/story/2011/04/28/technology-sony-playstation-data-breach-lawsuit.html

No, they have purely found a way to get through. You don't need to be more sophisticated but, indeed, malicious. Word from the CCC here is that it might have happened through access to a top-level e-mail account, from which they send out a trojan. That is malicious and can break a system at the right time, say, when a holiday is about to start.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:17 pm

No, they have purely found a way to get through. You don't need to be more sophisticated but, indeed, malicious. Word from the CCC here is that it might have happened through access to a top-level e-mail account, from which they send out a trojan. That is malicious and can break a system at the right time, say, when a holiday is about to start.


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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:30 am

Got my email today. I didn't put any credit card info to my PSN account, do you figure I'll be okay?

I was impressed, the email was tailored to me - it had all sorts of steps I should take and what my state's laws can do for me. A lot of something about a security freeze I could put on my bank account, but I don't need that if I didn't give PSN my credit card info, right?

But, I did put my real name, address, and b-day to my PSN account. No suspicious emails so far....
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 9:44 am

Alaisiagae, change your passwords anyways, not only to your PSN account, but to your e-mail account it's registered to as well if it's anything similar.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:56 pm

Alaisiagae, change your passwords anyways, not only to your PSN account, but to your e-mail account it's registered to as well if it's anything similar.

Can't remember my PSN account, I haven't logged on in months. I don't use the same password for it and my email, I know that much.

Looking over my registration email again, I only gave my PO box address, not my physical address. I guess that's good.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:46 pm

Can't remember my PSN account, I haven't logged on in months. I don't use the same password for it and my email, I know that much.

Looking over my registration email again, I only gave my PO box address, not my physical address. I guess that's good.

You did well. Thank flying spaghetti monster you didn't need your fricken SSN or equivalent.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:52 pm

Damn, I'm rather glad I haven't gotten a PS3 just yet. I may still get one, but I'm definitely going to double my efforts to remain as anonymous as possible in the network, just as I should with any other major network. I'm not going to blame them, since no company is 100% protected against potential threats. No matter the level of security, there's always a way to get around it. :shrug:

I hope nobody's information is used with any malicious intent against their own will, and I also hope this particular type of attack never occurs again, since Sony should now know how to guard against it.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 2:32 pm

I'll have to contact my stupid isp to reactivate my email account so I can my passwordnb surf wv vv wv q

They have a wierd system of making a master account whenever you move and deactivating the old one without notice...
Only problem I can forsee is having to make a new subaccount and thwn changing the username/email name that some sitea require and can never change
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 1:27 pm

I'll have to contact my stupod isp to reactivate my email account so I can my passwordnb surf wv vv wv q

They have a wierd system of making a master account whenever you move and deactivating the old one without notice...

I agreed with the "wv w wv q" part.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 12:34 am

I agreed with the "wv w wv q" part.

Love thw droid
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:12 pm

My dad is going to skin me alive if we have to cancel the credit card because of this :unsure:


I know, same here, [censored]

Alaisiagae, change your passwords anyways, not only to your PSN account, but to your e-mail account it's registered to as well if it's anything similar.


How do I do this without being connected to PSN, can I still do this just with the internet access.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:00 pm

How do I do this without being connected to PSN, can I still do this just with the internet access.


No, but apparently, when PSN comes back online it'll ask you to change your password before you can log in. Or the update, I'm not sure which'll come first.
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Post » Wed Feb 02, 2011 1:56 am

I'll be honest, I wasn't terribly concerned about this anyway, and I just realised that my card expires at the end of the month so I'll be getting a new one anyway.

lol gtfo hackerz.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 10:20 pm

hackerz

I believe the proper word is "haxx0rz".
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:51 pm

Can you sign onto PSN via the official Sony Playstation website? It's easier for me to type on a keyboard than with the PSP. :P

This must be a nightmare for Sony.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 6:26 pm

Can you sign onto PSN via the official Sony Playstation website? It's easier for me to type on a keyboard than with the PSP. :P

This must be a nightmare for Sony.


Yes you can, you can register on it and so forth as well.
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 5:05 pm

More info:
But combined with the other data, the database is valuable indeed. The passwords (which Sony evidently didn’t bother to hash) could be a gold mine, because people have a tendency to use the same password everywhere; you can bet a big chunk of those 77 million PlayStation Network passwords will unlock everything from Facebook accounts to online banking. The e-mail addresses could be used in phishing attacks, with the fraudster using stolen details — like the target’s date-of-birth — to increase the chances of a response. Hell, even if it were just sold as a spam list, the Sony database could draw a pretty penny.


http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/04/playstation_hack/?

So if you reuse your passwords across multiple services now would be a good time to change it on other services.

Some official information when it is supposed to be back up:

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2011/04/playstation-network-restore-date/
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Post » Tue Feb 01, 2011 11:46 pm

No, but apparently, when PSN comes back online it'll ask you to change your password before you can log in. Or the update, I'm not sure which'll come first.


Alright thanks.
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