PUBLIC BURNINGs?

Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:10 am

Watching someone burn to death is disgusting, not enjoyable. Besides, wouldn't hanging or beheading be more traditional?

This. If someone has to be executed... a beheading will do nice. Or a hanging. But I wouldn't want to have to watch an NPC scream as he burns to death.
Silence and moaning/sobbing from the person being executed before the sharp sound of an axe reaches everyones ears, with some more silence before people start to leave and the sounds of a walking mass of people is heard.
That would be mature and hideous enough.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:50 pm

If this game is supposed to be like medieval europe or even nineteenth century America then no it is normal.


Luckily, it's not- it's supposed to be like Tamriel.

Perhaps someday they'll do "Spanish Inquisition- The Videogame" to satisfy the masses' bloodlust. ;)
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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:30 am

This. If someone has to be executed... a beheading will do nice. Or a hanging. But I wouldn't want to have to watch an NPC scream as he burns to death.
Silence and moaning/sobbing from the person being executed before the sharp sound of an axe reaches everyones ears, with some more silence before people start to leave and the sounds of a walking mass of people is heard.
That would be mature and hideous enough.



But don't you see. That's the point that simple slashing or gun bursts don't convey in games anymore. It's getting across the point of the pure brutality of the act rather than the player not caring or laughing it off.
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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 1:03 am

If this is put in the game, we better not ever let Fox news get wind of it..


What do you mean Fox News? They aren't the ones against capital punishment...
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:47 pm

Some element of corporal punishment is a good idea (fable games have torture in dark sanctum as that was a certifictae 15), as it builds on morality an crime in a fantasy world that is meant to be different from ours. However public burnings isnt very nordic, beheading with a big axe on the other hand...
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:50 pm

I think to a certain extent, executions could be very good, perhaps its the punishment for very serious offences, although let's face it, people would just reload a save point, so not that impacting.

I think it would have to be done subtley and well, as with including things like sixual references, you don't want it to overshadow the actual game. I think therefore burning is probably a bit over the top, I mean what's the next suggestion, pressing?, hung, drawn and quartering...
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:31 pm

Public burnings? Isn't that what is going on right now? I kid :teehee:


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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:01 am

Brutal aspects such as public executions are often overlooked in videogames, but I argue that it's incredibly immersive. And I'm not talking about New Vegas crucifictions, which got old quick. I'm thinking of Assassin's Creed 1; that game had some public scenes which literally horrified me, but it really drew me into the brutality of the Crusades. For a particularly boody example that stays with me:
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As the PC stalks his next target, a sadistic Templar and pseudo-Doctor who tortures mentally ill patients under the guise of 'healing' them, one poor fellow attempts to escape the prison, only to be caught by guards. The Doctor mercilessly calls for his legs to be broken as an example of what may come to those who attempt to run away, and the guards literally break the guy's legs in front of you as he screams in agony and desperation. That scene more than shocked me; it chilled my blood, and I can still recall most details to this day. An excellent example of immersion in gameplay if there ever was one.

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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:35 pm

I don't see why public executions are any less gruesome that what players do on a regular basis to their enemies. Has anyone seen the Last of the Mohicans? That movie was great and it sure had a public burning.

If you take a public execution (and our preference for them) as immature, you're missing the point of what they represented. For civilians, public executions well up to the 20th century were a form of entertainment. In the West, going to see someone hanged was like going to the baseball game. For town officials, it was a way of sending a message to normals and criminals alike: if you do crime, you're going to pay for it in the worst possible way. Hangings were quick, as were shootings (mostly, at times even they were painful to watch). But go back in history and you see executions take an even more gruesome turn. All kinds of torture, some too graphic to mention on here. Regardless, these were meant to send a message. If you opposed a certain religion, you were punished. If you were an anarchist and you refused to extract information about your fellow conspirators, you were sentenced to immense torture.

Was it pretty? Of course not, but it was a facet of our society and is still existent in many cultures. And in a dark age of the elder scrolls series, in which Nords clash with Nords and blood is spilt on the soil of Skyrim's fields, it would fit right in.

I'm not endorsing any form. In fact, I'd much rather prefer hangings or beheadings over terrible burnings. While this is a rated M game, I agree that we should be mature about the subject.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:26 pm

Sounds mighty fun.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:27 pm

definitly and if you are bad you can try to save them or epically interuppt the burning or something :intergalactic: :hubbahubba:
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:54 pm

you definitely don't want to see somebody burn alive
seriously
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:18 pm

But don't you see. That's the point that simple slashing or gun bursts don't convey in games anymore. It's getting across the point of the pure brutality of the act rather than the player not caring or laughing it off.

Considering that dismemberment and decapacitations have never been featured in a TES game before, it WILL stand out if someone loses his head (literally) in front of a mass of people.
Besides, how often do you see executions in video games that are not accompanied by cool action music, and that doesn't stand out from the rest of the casual killing?
Call of Duty 4 and Modern Warfare 2 are two examples. Both feature a lot of death, and both have execution scenes that stand out.
You don't have to make it more hideous to make the execution stand out - music, camera angles, and mood can make a beheading scene 100 times better than to take the easy path and just pick the most hideous and bloody execution method possible, to try to make it stand out.

Sneak attacking a bandit and sending him flying into a wall makes you laugh.
Paralyzing him and igniting him, letting you watch him scream as he burns to death, would still make you smile if nothing else changes, like music or camera angles.

It's not what you do, it's how you do it. Besides, what do you have to work with when it comes to a burning anyway? Increasing the volume of the victim's screams? Meh.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:35 pm

Public and Private executions would be acceptable, they wouldn't neccesarily be ok to watch depending on whether the victim is a criminal or not but they would add some realism and the sense that game world does not revolve around you. However bethesda would need to be careful that the executions are not overly gory (the swing of a sword would suffice) and that they are not too frequent (or they would become irritating). Since I think burnings are unnecesarily gruesome I do not think they should be in Skyrim.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:37 pm

63% voted yes? :bolt:




Personally I'm not a big fan of people being burnt at the stake, the thought alone is disgusting. I'm worried for the people on this forum........ If one of the devs is reading this, please don't put burnings into this game, I beg you not to. It's just.....wrong.... :nope:
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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 4:00 am

63% voted yes? :bolt:




Personally I'm not a big fan of people being burnt at the stake, the thought alone is disgusting. I'm worried for the people on this forum........ If one of the devs is reading this, please don't put burnings into this game, I beg you not to. It's just.....wrong.... :nope:

Hahaha....... Your name...... Scorch.
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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 3:55 am

Maybe not burning alive, but executions yes. That executionner in the art of skyrim video looks like he knows what he's doing.
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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 12:18 am

Public burnings? Ugh. Yeah, let's pander to the basest, most vicious and infantile instincts we can. After all, nothing makes money like appealing to the absolute lowest common denominator :(.

Tell you what, it's only worth doing if it's done properly! Screaming, shrieking victim; jeering crowds; self righteous executioners. And of course, it won't feel really good unless the victim is...

You know what? Forget it. I'm horrified and disgusted that the moderators are allowing a thread to continue that is devoted to discussion of one of the most horrific forms of obscene torture and execution ever to be invented by a degenerate species.

I'm reporting my own post, if it gets me a warning for trolling it'll be worth it to see this thread locked.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:41 pm

considering how you start off in the game i dont see why this would be an issue. if not burning then beheadings or giving people bloody angels.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:59 pm

Luckily, it's not- it's supposed to be like Tamriel.

Perhaps someday they'll do "Spanish Inquisition- The Videogame" to satisfy the masses' bloodlust. ;)

I'm not saying I want burnings but saying that these people don't do it while they still use swords and have almost no technology not to mention necromancy, I'm pretty sure they do executions. Personally I've never seen a court of law there so what does that tell you.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 4:06 pm

Only if we get to hear such phrases as "She turned me into a newt!"
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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:34 am

As a kid I remember getting a graphic novel MacBeth. Lots of bloody beheadings. Awesome. The Skyrim concept art already includes a severed head, so why not.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:59 pm

I really couldn't see the Nords being into burnings... Just doesn't seem like them.

You might be able to turn it into an homage to Conan the Barbarian, and let some Nord village have a "Monster / Bear - pit" where criminals are thrown in.
On a different note, I really think the forum rules are awfully squeamish about blood & gore and the open discussion of grisly horrible murder, considering that we're talking about a game-series with overarching themes of Deicide, war and Necromancy.
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Post » Mon Oct 11, 2010 3:33 pm

I'm not saying I want burnings but saying that these people don't do it while they still use swords and have almost no technology not to mention necromancy, I'm pretty sure they do executions.


I'm sure they do executions too, but execution =/= burning at stake.

Personally I've never seen a court of law there so what does that tell you.


That you never played Daggerfall, or at least never got into criminal trouble in the game? :D
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Post » Tue Oct 12, 2010 6:50 am

I remember in Bloodmoon they had a cage with summoned wolves to kill a guy in the story, so maybe something like that.
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