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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:11 pm

For OSR, make sure bReplaceHeap is set to 1 in the ini. (This is very important)

RAEVWD can cause a huge fps hit.

I have a similar system and I get alot more fps. (Using alot of the same mods you have, plus more texture packs)

I7 920 @ 3.8ghz
Nvidia 480 gtx
6 GB ram
Windows 7
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:42 am

For OSR, make sure bReplaceHeap is set to 1 in the ini. (This is very important)

RAEVWD can cause a huge fps hit.

I have a similar system and I get alot more fps. (Using alot of the same mods you have, plus more texture packs)

I7 920 @ 3.8ghz
Nvidia 480 gtx
6 GB ram
Windows 7

I'm not sure exactly why.

your core runs at 3.8GHz.....thats why..lol, mine runs at 2.8.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:14 pm

your core runs at 3.8GHz.....thats why..lol, mine runs at 2.8.


Can you overclock? You will gain a big boost to your fps.

Oblivion prefers faster clock speeds.

Are you using onboard sound? That can lower fps.
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:38 am

Can you overclock? You will gain a big boost to your fps.

Oblivion prefers faster clock speeds.

Are you using onboard sound? That can lower fps.

i don't know about overclocking....i was going to learn it when i bought the new cpu but didn't have the time to, and theres a lot of reading..and yeah i'm using onboard sound, but it's not a crappy onboard sound, ASUS premium mobo has decent sound, i'm not interested in investing more money for this :)
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:46 pm

i don't know about overclocking....

One thing to do before overclocking your CPU.

GET A BETTER COOLING SYSTEM IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE ALREADY.
(Sorry if you already know this. Just making sure as I'm sick of seeing people complain about how OC'ing killed their computer whenever it's because they were too lazy or stupid to upgrade their cooling system)

However, overclocking your GPU with the stock cooler should be fine, and tends to yield better FPS as well. Just be careful and use something other than the default program.

Anyways, back to FPS hits, does anyone know of a way to lessen the hit of multiple NPCs in one area? I'm sick of walking into the Market District and getting like 15 fps because the NPCs want to constantly stand in one place and talk about mudcrabs, the emperor, and the Dark Brotherhood all day.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:31 pm

One thing to do before overclocking your CPU.

GET A BETTER COOLING SYSTEM IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE ALREADY.
(Sorry if you already know this. Just making sure as I'm sick of seeing people complain about how OC'ing killed their computer whenever it's because they were too lazy or stupid to upgrade their cooling system)

However, overclocking your GPU with the stock cooler should be fine, and tends to yield better FPS as well. Just be careful and use something other than the default program.

Anyways, back to FPS hits, does anyone know of a way to lessen the hit of multiple NPCs in one area? I'm sick of walking into the Market District and getting like 15 fps because the NPCs want to constantly stand in one place and talk about mudcrabs, the emperor, and the Dark Brotherhood all day.

aha, yeah, i'll need a water cooling system if i wanna overclock, sure, except i don't know about overclocking, and i've been to some forums explaining it, it had a post that was as long as psymon's BAIN installation package thread, all 5 posts added together...lots of reading, so i just decided that stock speed is fine until i really can't live with it.
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:09 am

aha, yeah, i'll need a water cooling system if i wanna overclock, sure, except i don't know about overclocking, and i've been to some forums explaining it, it had a post that was as long as psymon's BAIN installation package thread, all 5 posts added together...lots of reading, so i just decided that stock speed is fine until i really can't live with it.

It's incredibly easy, if you don't push it too hard. Besides, that can be a bit risky, especially if you're new to it all.

But anyway, you *do not* need water cooling to overclock safely and effectively. I've been running an e8400 at 4GHz (up from 3) for nearly two years now; rock solid, cool, and still a decent performer, actually. Hence, I've not bothered to upgrade just yet. Oh, and that's with a cheap HSF (heatsink + fan), to replace the stock cooling (i.e., the crappy HSF that CPUs come with by default). Plus, I suppose I have a reasonably good case, though not an expensive one. It provides decent airflow, which is important. The other thing you will need is a reliable PSU (power supply) with sufficient, well, power. Because OCing does demand more of that. A poor quality and/or underpowered PSU is a terrible idea in general, and doubly so when overclocking.

There are some very simple, straightforward guides out there. I recommend starting with a mild overclock, testing for temperature and stability every step of the way. A bit like adding lots of mods, now I think of it... :)
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:33 am

Funny thing, all the talk people make of faster CPUs making the game run better. I upgraded mine from a 2.3GHz to a 3.2GHz and saw not a single frame's worth of improvement. At least not out of Oblivion anyway. Fallout 3 responded some, but other games took to it a lot better. You'd think a 900MHz boost would have done something.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:57 pm

Funny thing, all the talk people make of faster CPUs making the game run better. I upgraded mine from a 2.3GHz to a 3.2GHz and saw not a single frame's worth of improvement. At least not out of Oblivion anyway. Fallout 3 responded some, but other games took to it a lot better. You'd think a 900MHz boost would have done something.

Interesting. Your mileage does indeed vary.

But, even so, I would still say - as I have many times - that graphics cards matter more for this game than do CPUs.* I also OC that... :D


* Though, maybe not so much if you're not mucking around with a gazillion graphics mods. Wouldn't know. ;)
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:14 am

Well I can't really see an ATI HD4870 as being old enough to be crippled by this game. Especially since what I had before - an 8800GTX - performed just as well.

I ended up getting more bang out of moving to Windows 7x64 than I did from any of the hardware upgrades. Figure that one out :)
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:00 am

I ended up getting more bang out of moving to Windows 7x64 than I did from any of the hardware upgrades. Figure that one out :)


Twice the amount of RAM?

My experience is that upgrading the CPU had much more effect than upgrading the GPU.
But of course that may be because I also upgraded my monitor at the same time...
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 5:51 am

It's incredibly easy, if you don't push it too hard. Besides, that can be a bit risky, especially if you're new to it all.

But anyway, you *do not* need water cooling to overclock safely and effectively. I've been running an e8400 at 4GHz (up from 3) for nearly two years now; rock solid, cool, and still a decent performer, actually. Hence, I've not bothered to upgrade just yet. Oh, and that's with a cheap HSF (heatsink + fan), to replace the stock cooling (i.e., the crappy HSF that CPUs come with by default). Plus, I suppose I have a reasonably good case, though not an expensive one. It provides decent airflow, which is important. The other thing you will need is a reliable PSU (power supply) with sufficient, well, power. Because OCing does demand more of that. A poor quality and/or underpowered PSU is a terrible idea in general, and doubly so when overclocking.

There are some very simple, straightforward guides out there. I recommend starting with a mild overclock, testing for temperature and stability every step of the way. A bit like adding lots of mods, now I think of it... :)

i'm not sure how easy it is...well tbh, i think it's easier to burn the cpu out more than anything, i have a 650W PSU, as i said i built the comp so all hardware was bought separately, so the power shouldn't be a problem. The case has 2 fans on it already, plus the cpu's own fan, so i'm quite satisfied with the airflow. And really, i'm sorta also trying to preserve my cpu's life time, because it's sort of a linear relationship between running it at higher temp and reduction in life time of the thing...i'm not exactly planning to change my comp every 2 years. I might try to figure out about overclocking but i doubt it's going to get far.

Funny thing, all the talk people make of faster CPUs making the game run better. I upgraded mine from a 2.3GHz to a 3.2GHz and saw not a single frame's worth of improvement. At least not out of Oblivion anyway. Fallout 3 responded some, but other games took to it a lot better. You'd think a 900MHz boost would have done something.

I'm surprised by this...theoretically a faster cpu is quite important, maybe oblivion just doesn't run on theories...how it cripples a comp built 4 years later is beyond me, just look at the potential beth left us with (mods) ;D

Well I can't really see an ATI HD4870 as being old enough to be crippled by this game. Especially since what I had before - an 8800GTX - performed just as well.

I ended up getting more bang out of moving to Windows 7x64 than I did from any of the hardware upgrades. Figure that one out :)

Thinking back a few years ago 8800 was the card to get for a game like oblivion, in fact it's recommended, funny that.

Twice the amount of RAM?

My experience is that upgrading the CPU had much more effect than upgrading the GPU.
But of course that may be because I also upgraded my monitor at the same time...

It would've been nice if oblivion could use more ram....i swear if it could use 6gb ram everyone would be happy and no more ctds! :D

the game is so resource hungry i started using it as benchmark testing a couple years ago, pretty funny since crysis is all the talk for that and suddenly you have oblivion which can seriously hurt your hardware's feelings :)
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:52 pm

It would've been nice if oblivion could use more ram....i swear if it could use 6gb ram everyone would be happy and no more ctds! :D

Very doubtful. It would just raise the ceiling that would either be just that much longer before memory leakage reaches maximum or people would then adapt to the higher ceiling with more mods and it would be talk of getting that 16gb of Oblivion memory happening.
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Post » Fri Dec 17, 2010 11:24 pm

I don't think you'll need it to use the whole 6GB. With the LAA patch, my game routinely hovers somewhere around 2.1GB and doesn't generally get any higher, even in really busy areas. I'd say games that continue to grow until they slam into the 4GB wall have an actual problem with one of the mods installed.
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:39 am

well, today i finally got qtp3r, switched to it from qtp3 full, and there is actually a noticable improvement. There is no real fps increase, however it's smoother and there less less fps decrease or stuttering. Also, i looked at streamline, and i found out only the first time initiating it will have the "streamline initialized" notice at the top left corner when a game is started. Afterwards it just doesn't show that, and also the console won't show "sl.ini appears error free, happy gaming" etc afterwards either...i was looking at this because for some reason when i change the ini settings and then go into a game it's not changed, i have to go into the ingame menu and change it from there (ie i tried changing the number of save slots), this is using streamline 3.1. (what i did was untick the esp, made a clean save and then ticked it again, then it says streamline initialized in the console and all that, but then after saving, and loading again it doesn't show it, neither are the ini settings applying to a saved game).
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:11 pm

As written in the streamline readme, you have to type in console "startquest SLini2" to reinitialize the ini after you make any changes....
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:33 am

As written in the streamline readme, you have to type in console "startquest SLini2" to reinitialize the ini after you make any changes....

heh, technically not in the readme file, rather in the config file, which i overlooked...sometimes i feel theres just too much to read :|
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:43 am

Apply the 4 GB patch to the exe

I'm out of the loop...where do I get this "4 GB patch"? I assume it works to allow Oblivion to take advantage of PC's greater power?
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 4:06 am

I'm out of the loop...where do I get this "4 GB patch"? I assume it works to allow Oblivion to take advantage of PC's greater power?

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1118450-oblivion-and-memory-usage/ - two slots above this as I reply.
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:56 am

i thought i'd just use my old thread here for a few questions i want to ask.

with the alluring potion bottles, shouldn't having the graphics imported into bashed patch allow all potion types to change ICON in the inventory menu? RIght now every default potion has the special icons plus the special bottles if they are dropped, however the self made potions have vanilla icons but still the special bottles when dropped. I don't understand why this is the case, especially that sometimes, i don't know when, but when i load a saved game the icons for self created bottles will also change to a single bottle shape/texture icon, which is fine but right now they aren't changing at all. I mean..it's ok for them all to just look the same but as long as it's not vanilla...
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Post » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:51 am

sry double post...net lagged when submitting the post
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