I've said my piece, but I can't understand anyone truly defending Bethesda on this particular point. The true fans are those on this forum. If anything, We should be the first to recieve new information. Anyone dedicated enough to visit the Skyrim forums daily deserves new tid-bits before the general public.

Simply put, the strongest PR is us. How many people have you told about this game?

I get what a lot of people are saying when they talk about the trickle down effect, and chilling out, especially around Quakecon. However this thread has evolved into something much more than that. It is now about the PR process of Skyrim and the feed (or lack there of) of information that we are receiving as an international community.

To be honest I think the worst thing for me is that I am losing interest, the excitement of chasing down information is leaving me as I repetitively find nothing new.

The next point is that this is a 'world-wide release' game, and so far all I have seen around availability for new info is based in the USA. I'm from New Zealand, so is Bethesda's view on that just "tough luck - shoulda been born somewhere different"?

I'm not asking for a 'big shot' or even anything right now.. I'm just sic of searching and would like to be informed as to when the global community can actually access some worthwhile information.

I assure you nothing that goes on at QuakeCon will remain a secret. The attendees will tells us about everything they see and the media will come out with a frenzy of articles and reviews. Eventually we will get a new video. Bits of info along the way until release. The hype machine will be in place and us on the forums won't miss much but rather have it delayed for us.

If there is one thing I can say about Pete it's that he is very, very good at building hype.

Do you think what they are showing is the same demo as shown in e3?

We're overdue for a trailer. The one and only trailer (not counting the announcement teaser) came out 5 months ago. We're 3 1/2 months from release. Are they not doing another one?

Likely just a release trailer that will come out in 3 months.

I actually have my doubts too. Initially, I thought it was very strange that they had such a solid date picked out so far in advance, and especially since it's a date like THAT. 11-11-11? Very strange.

Now I'm thinking that it's just to... I hesitate to call it "fool us", but, perhaps that's what it is? I don't know. Anyway, I'm thinking the goal all along has been to instill some sense of security for us fans that Bethesda has it's crap together as far as getting Skyrim finished on schedule, to soften the blow if/when a delay occurs. You know the old: "Hey everyone! Sorry we couldn't make that funky deadline, but who could, honestly, right?" Not that I think that will work, but I imagine that's what's in mind.

And what's this about "merged armor"? And why do I have a terrible feeling about the answer?

Yeah but my point is people should be looking at the past as a reference for future marketing plans. Maybe they shouldn't have used the words "public demo" but at the same time people here shouldn't have taken those words to mean "public for the entire world".

It just seems like most of you had your expectations set unreasonably high. Look at the way they've been marketing this game since it was announced. They've been very tight-lipped about almost everything and very selective about who they show the game to.



And it doesn't matter one damn bit because you're all still going to eat the game up. Bethesda knows this.

Could be onto something.

By merged armour they mean that the cuirass and greaves are now one piece instead of each being individual piece's

Not really. If they're interested in making money and attracting new customers they're going to show things to people outside of this forum first.

To them, most of the people who post on this forum are guaranteed sales. To think otherwise is just plain naive.

it will be gloves boots body and helmet

Bethesda made sure they announced the game far along enough to announce a solid release date. They've been sticking with 11-11-11 throughout their advertising, interviews, etc. There's no doubt in my mind that they'll make the date.

Doubt it. If it is/was, you can/could expect murmurs... No, scratch that. You can/could expect loud shouts of Bethesda not having nearly as much done on the game as many measure that they should by now.

Thanks tips.
If you've seen the other threads, you'd know I'm fully aware of this.
And even if I didn't buy it, it still wouldn't matter one bit.

But that still doesn't take my ability to be vocal about my issues with the PR for the game. I'm giving feedback on the forums. That's what's they're here for here.
I ask you to contribute something other than "shut up, your opinion doesn't matter to them"
Thanks.

Lol, no one is trying to take away your right to give feedback and post here. I'm just saying most of you are blowing this way out of proportion and overreacting at childish levels.

It's the spark that lights the flame.
Most of our discussion isn't about QuakeCon but instead how awful we find the PR to be.
Try to keep up

Again I get what your saying here. But wouldn't a smart PR team atleast give us some sort of reason to come on here? there isn't even a trickle of info on here. I mean it still is valuable for them to have us on their forums, well it should be if they know how to work it properly.

Well, that makes sense for some types of armor, but not all.

Not liking the sound of that.



Wait, what? One whole armor piece? Seriously?



This is true. As I said, we're all free to prove them wrong.



Warner Bros was pretty set on November 5, 2005 for the release of V For Vendetta. Just saying.

i meant those are the four you can mix and match not being together

I am still an Undecided on day 1 purchase. The reasoning behind this is that I am actually not very impressed with the content that I have seen so far. Will it be an excellent open world game?? Sure Bethesda does that well. But it seems as if our favorite developer is starting to [censored] itself out to the general public even more now. I don't say that to be cruel but after the fan QA the perception seems to be "what cheap content can we add to gather more sales?" You would expect some detail to come out that would at least attract the core fanbase.... but there is nothing. Many were hoping the QA would be a good source of info especially after all of the excellent questions that were asked... and it was glossed over for marriages and tavern brawls.

Your posts scream angsty teen, haha.



That's been fairly obvious, which is why I've also been mentioning and commenting on their PR strategy since they announced the game. Read my other posts in this thread if you're going to try to tell me to "keep up".

Please think before you post.

Someone MUST film this. Some how. Put a camera on a pair of glasses, something. I don't really care how its done but us little peons have to find a way to fight these giants companies that do things like this. What the crap? Why not show it?

Check that, I realize that Bethesda isn't a "giant" company. But there's definitely someone, somewhere within the company that is saying, "we can't show this yet to everyone."

Well, that's crap. Sorry. Show us. If they won't someone needs to film it and show it anyway.

It's a metaphor. I thought it might help you understand. I suppose you decided to resort to childishness instead.



All you posts directed to me claim I'm over reacting about QuakeCon. If you're keeping up, why do you keep reverting back to that argument?


Please practice what you preach.

Oh. Good.

Cuirass and greaves being one piece for every armor type svcks Devastator balls. Probably another feature brought about by Bethesda's desire to make things easier on themselves. Can't blame them for desiring that, but it'd be nice if they really thought about where that attitude takes them sometimes.

they like to change things, some like what they do some don't you can never please everyone.
and if they didn't it would suffer the same fate as call of duty, pumping the same game every year with a little better graphics but hardly anything new.