just opening this up to continue the thread earlier :cookie:

I don't really know what to discuss anymore. What's done is done. Nothing we can change about the whole situation.

Correct, but there's definitely a recurring theme amongst the posting.

On a forum however, Bethesda have the advantage of ignorance.



What angry fans?

To be honest I just want to keep the topic alive as hopefully Bethesda will take notice with enough attention..

A little late there mod.

I do live in Louisiana, but I'm boycotting *fishystick salute*

ignore

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1212696-no-quakecon-for-you-thread-ii/ http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1212634-no-quakecon-for-you/
I agree with you 100%
And it makes me very, very mad.
There must be a way to sway them.

To start where the previous post did here's where the topic stems from

caramel_cod:

Over the past few weeks, we've all been holding out hope that QuakeCon would be the next big source of Skyrim footage. Sadly, those hopes appear to have been dashed.

According to Gstaff:

"If you want to see the presentation, I’d recommend attending the show. There’s no current plans to film the live presentation."

"Sorry guys, there’s no current plans for the QuakeCon presentation to be put online. It’ll likely be a no filming zone."

(Quotes found and posted by Dragonborn1)

I think I speak for all of us when I say: Come on, Bethesda. What the hell is the point of releasing something that only 1% of your fans will ever get to see in optimal quality? Is it really the best decision to leave us with a crappy, low-res video of the presentation? What good does it do to hold this back from the public even more than you already have?

This is a public event, so live streaming would be a smart idea. Wrapping people up in red tape is just going to result in godawful, cell-phone quality videos that won't do the presentation justice. I'm sure they're thinking of holding the video until a future episode of GTTV, bu with no official indication of that it seems like a slap in the face.

Source (quotes are from the comments section)- http://bethblog.com/...and-exhibitors/

Get over it. The sense of entitlement displayed by you "angry fans" makes me ashamed to be counted in your number.

Take a deep breath and enjoy the game (in 4 short months).

I feel this way. It's not that big of a deal is it?

well the whole day has essentially passed and nothing from bethesda so i doubt they will reconsider also apparently from skyrimers post we will be getting info just a bit later than we hoped.meaning a third isnt needed enough has been said and its been ignored. at least we have the game to look forward to :celebration: ......in four months :sadvaultboy:

Let me just grab something I had from the last thread:

It's not over entitlement in the least. Without fans, this series would have died a long time ago.
I feel like I'm in an abusive relationship. Bethesda keeps smacking me across the face, yet I keep staying faithful even though they need me more than I need them.

And what of those who are still deciding whether to pre-order, yet can't get any further info because they don't live in the USA?

eg. I live in New Zealand there aint any conventions that I can attend without flying there.

Plus this is about their PR campaign, the thing I am most flammed about is they keep hyping new info to be coming but then don't deliver, TBH I have handled it but this Quakecon BS was the last straw for me.

ok then,..geesh cancel the rebellion.

not quite :toughninja: still upset over there overly hush hush PR for skyrim. as one wise poster said its like creating a beautiful painting and locking it in a safe then throwing said safe into the Mariana trench so nobody can see it.

Gladly... if they would show me enough to get me actually buying the thing on the day one... no questions asked... Do I buy the collector's edition? Wait, we don't know if it exists or not, yet. Will they port the game over to the PS3 and PC well enough to warrant a purchase? Wait, we don't know because they won't show them. Is the gameplay itself even all that great (I doubt this one will be a problem, for me, but the others are and this could very well be a problem for somebody.)? Wait, we don't know as they won't show it and are too busy continuing to enforce their terrible PR tactics. This is a continuation of poor PR on Bethesda's part. I even remember last year when New Vegas was about to be released, they (through Gstaff) informed us that DLC would be exclusive to the 360 version LITERALLY THE NIGHT BEFORE THE GAME WAS RELEASED. They've screwed me over with their terrible exclusive deals with Microsoft and lazy/bad porting jobs, before, they've been running a circus show of useles PR... or a rather a lack thereof, and for what? What good does it do, anyway? The sense of passive apathy displayed by some people has no benefit. I've said it before, but non-caring, "roll over and take it" consumerism is responsible for so many problems (DRM, overpriced/short/rehashed games, DLC-oriented rip-offs, bad ports, etc.) in the modern gaming industry. This whole thing is connected to a principle that few take seriously. As a result, problems occur.

Well said.







This

Ah but you're missing the part where they constantly tell people how beautiful said painting is, while constantly taunting people about they fact they can't see it.




This is perfect. This should be in the opening post.

indeed

its horrible that thats the perfect comparison....an abusive relationship :sadvaultboy:

Well said. I'm so pissed off at the fact that Bethesda does all the time (well not all the time). WHY TODD? WHY???!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead:

o+I=b

I even remember Gstaff saying not to long ago when everyone was begging for information, that they were 'focusing on their Quakecon presentation' and then proceeded to tell the forum that we would be 'pleasantly surprised' or something along those lines (p.s if anyone remembers the thread/ can provide the link to this would be much appreciated). And now it seems they are with holding what they 'hyped' us for.

Hey kind of off topic here but, isn't kind of ironic that we reach the 100 day mark on August 4th until the release of Skyrim. And the 4th is also the first day of QuakeCon. Wouldn't it be cool, even though it won't happen, if Bethesda put something incredible together to show us something each day until release...like a brand new 25 minute demo that only shows 15 seconds of it each day until release. Just something I thought about and decided to share. Moving on.

I'm glad this post has been kept alive- I just got on, I read up as much as possible, I would have never known about the tragedy of Quakecon if it hadn't been for the continuation of this post- So sad. Does Bethesda not realize the state of the economy these days? Do they not care that people simply don't have the 1000+ dollars to spend on plane/hotel/entrance fees to go to Quakecon? Times are tough, so cut us a break for not being able to attend this 'secret meeting.' Or atleast wait a week and THEN throw us a bone.