Well, I know my PS3's processor is significantly better than the laptop's. I'm not sure about the video chip, however. I've got an "AMD M880G with ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4200"... whatever that means. I can understand RAM, hard drive space, and processors, but I have no clue when it comes to video/graphics chips/cards.

I figured as much. I have no issue with mods stepping in whenever though if it needs to be locked. I have my answer and my curiosity has been sated.

They didn't start developing it 5 years ago. Production on Skyrim didn't begin until Fallout 3 was completed, previous to that it was just ideas being bouncing around. So it's only been about 3 years since they actually began working on it.

The textures will likely be higher res (no guarantees on that; every time Todd has mentioned it, he explicitly states they aren't guaranteeing it), though we don't know by how much. Whether it's Oblivion-level, or QTP3-level, we have no idea. Things like AA can be forced via the driver, though sometimes it can fail depending on how the application works (some things don't work with AA, so forcing AA when the engine does those things can lead to problems). Better shadow quality and full reflections depend entirely on the engine -- the only reason you can improve those things with Olbivion was because the game had those options, they just didn't expose them in the options menu.

Yeah mobility cards are absolute junk. My laptop has the same specs as yours, and it can't run TES4 either.

Development begins at conceptualization, and they began high-level concept of Skyrim immediately after Oblivion shipped. Along with this, consideration of the hardware had to be taken into account, judging whether or not they should wait for a new hardware cycle. To not define concepting as "Work" is an insult to a large amount of people.

Yes, it can be unlocked. Firstly, CK is upgraded and supposedly has more control over the game than before but we aren't talking about the CK. We have to see how open-ended the DX11 features are. I'm expecting a needed plug in to unlock the full DX11 features. I'm planning on working to unlock DX11 myself, I've been doing a lot of research and messing around with DX11 right now and I'm hoping to be able to make a relatively quick plugin for it if it truly needs it. Tessellation is pretty easy to implement actually if the DX11 features are unlocked, it just takes a simple mesh and then use a displacement map for it, which of course still takes time and work but it's just as quick as modeling normally except more detailed in the end but unfortunately the consoles don't support DX11 so most cross-platform games won't be using tessellation until the new console rotations come around.



Actually, Todd already said it will have higher res textures for the PC. So has Pete.

If only more free demos were released for games... That's my test method. I can run Spore, Gothic 3, and Far Cry. I know that much from demos, at least! I'm currently downloading Crysis' demo (It's Friday night, I'm bored, and I'm putting this PC to the test in tortorously cruel experiments.). If I don't return to these forums, tomorrow, please notify a hospital that I've been in a terribly brutal explosive incident.

of course it will seeing as how bethesda wants console players to buy it as well they are the majority of there buyers but rest assured the pc version will look better how much better remains to be seen

Havok Behavior wasn't released until 2008. So that sounds about right.

But then what will Qarl work on? XD

Every indication so far is that tessellation cannot be "unlocked." The game won't likely be shipping the the necessary DX11 shaders required to make tessellation work. The only way to get it to work would be to write new shaders for it.

Jesus people really whats wrong with the graphics we've seen?

I'm just nit picky ;D

Textures with tessellation information. :hubbahubba:

They have said their previous titles have had higher-res textures for the PC. In the GI podcast, Todd mentions that they likely will with Skyrim too, along with the caveat that they aren't promising anything yet. If you have an interview where he states that they assuredly will have higher res textures for the PC version of Skyrim, I'd like to see it.

As much as I love technological progress, I also don't get it. It's as if the dawn of the 21st century started the space race of video gaming... but just replace space with photorealism. I really can almost swear some people feel as though we're this close to the finish line and should just lunge through as hastily as possible. Why people are expecting such graphics, I do not know.

Only that they're not as good as they could be, if they were designed to make use of higher system specs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SYD5gdhHug&feature=player_detailpage#t=360s (6:04)
"It does come with higher res textures."

Look I agree with you I would love If they focused more time on the pc but I accepted the fact that consoles are the main priority a long time ago and was pleasantly surprised at how good it looks.

Well, Oblivion and Morrowind shipped with high res textures as well, Qarl just makes even higher res textures, thus is the way of us modders, always trying to do more :tongue:



Yes but using the DX11 API, we can end up making a plug-in which would allow us to put in shaders and other features. Like I said, we won't know until we get our hands on it and poke around and see how much must be done to make it possible under the circumstances.



Actually, the graphics are perfect. The reason they are is because everything we have seen so far is meant to be seen on the TV, not on the pc screen. Hook up your PC to your TV and watch the trailer and what not, the flaws caused by low rez and lack of AA go away because of the distance to your TV. The PC obviously will look better, though it would look much better with DX11 fully implemented and mods added using that.

So is the video card. The 4200 isn't a very good card at all, certainly not good enough for graphic intensive games like these. In some areas, even the Intel chips out perform it. And BTW, that's not a DX 11 chip, it's only 10.1 capable.

Interesting. Thanks for that. Still doesn't say whether it's Oblivion-level high-res or QTP3-level high-res, but we'll see eventually.

i have one word that should satisfy most of the worry about the pc graphics not being up to par with what its capable of....... "MODS"

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