I got mad at Elder scrolls last Christmas because of the rating scandal. Since then, I've read that the mods allowing topless characters can be blocked or somehow made inaccessible. I own a Xbox 360 gaming console, and it would be my greatest delight to be playing Oblivion before the end of the year. My family has few qualms about violence, but when it comes to profanity or sixual content, we opt out. Clearly any language PG-13 or above ( F words) sicken us. Can anyone inform me to the sixual content in the game without the topless mod?
Thanks a million!

UruwahiiLC

Well, there really isn't that much of a problem.

1. When you take someone's clothes/armor, they'll be in their underwear

2. There's one quest where 2 women proposition you for a "night of fun", but it turns out that they just ambush you and try to take your stuff

3. There's a few innuendos

Other than that, there's no sixuality whatsoever

Edit: You can't even get mods on the 360 anyway

What are you trying to say again? The fact that when you take peoples clothes off they wear underwear, which is bad? It's a bit realistic. Don't YOU wear underwear? And there is no swearing in oblivion although I wish people would talk like in GTA 4, well, some people at least. You can't even get mods for [censored]box 360 anyway.

As one of the above posters said, you cannot mod the Xbox 360 version. There is no nudity whatsoever and any sixuality is by casual innuendo. You don't have anything to worry about

It is impossible to encounter a topless character in the game as it presently stands off the shelf, you've got to mod it yourself and even then I don't believe in the latest XBox versions it is possible. So no worries on that.

The only other sixual content in the entire game, in as much detail as I can remember.

Dialogue.

And very brief, at that.

*One lady in Skingrad asks you "Do you happen to know what the fine in Cyrodiil is for necrophilia?" You simply respond either I don't know, or it's at least 400 gold, or something of the sort. Very minimal, and you can simply not speak to this NPC should you so desire as she plays no part in the game.

*There is ONE quest in which there is a gang of "female thieves" that lure married men to their farmhouse in order to steal from them, and they choose married men so that they will not speak of the encounter. But when your character does this quest, (only if you're male), they simply lure you to the farmhouse. Tell you to take off what you're wearing, and you say "No." This is the only option. They then attack you, and you defend yourself respectively. There is no explicit or even offensive sixual content whatsoever.

*In another questline, an NPC says something like "I don't mean to talk...but Telendril (or whoever the NPC is) and me...you know. Don't believe me? I've got her undergarments to prove it." You never see such undergarments (at least, the only undergarments you ever see in the game are very covering, brown undergarments when you take off say...a dead persons armor for yourself), and it is one line of dialogue that amounts to nothing to get worked up over it any manner, and again, you can simply not select "Rumors" when talking to this NPC.

*There is one NPC in the Imperial City who is rumored to have "had his fair share of girls", but says when spoken to that he is now with a woman he loves and that he "stays away from the flesh pots". There are none of these "flesh pots" in the game.

*An NPC in a particular city is...sort of...implied to sleep with the "sailors" who stay at her Inn. However, all she ever does in game is literally sleep with them. Like just next to them. Nothing explicit, or even explicitly mentioned. It is only something you can somewhat infer and thats if you do a lot of digging.

*An NPC in a questline who apparently murdered a girl says "I didn't mean to do it, she struggled. I told her to just stay still but she wouldn't listen, I had no choice." You then kill this person for his crime, as that's the whole point of the quest. And he will only say this line of dialogue if you select a specific option in his dialogue choices. We do not know if he simply was trying to rob, murder, or possibly [censored] her, but this is never stated and can only just barely be infered from the quoted dialogue.

Other than this, I do not believe there is any sixual content. That is all I can think of. All of it very, very minor, inoffensive, inexplicit, and completely and utterly optional. Not talking to these NPCs, completing the quests in a manner that doesn't result in it, or simply not selecting the dialogue option has no effect on gameplay and will allow you to complete all quests and questlines in some manner regardless.

My wife happens to be VERY offended by inappropriate sixual content. And as a result, I too stray from such games. This game is nothing to worry about. I can even, if you would like, PM you a list of the specific names of these NPCs and questlines, when you encounter them, and what dialogue options to choose to stray away from them so that you do not have to deal with these incredibly minor instances.

Concerning swearing, I do not believe there is any whatsoever in this game. I think people say "Damn" as in "Damn rats, always scurrying around in the shadows, making me jumpy." But other than that, insults and language is entirely unique to the realm. Such examples include "You move like a pregnant cow." or "Oblivion take you!" or "You fetid piece of guar dung." Or "I've fought mudcrabs more fiercesome than you!"

You should be able to play this game out of the box without any issue whatsoever. It is by far one of the cleanest games I am able to play in this day and age. Cleaner than almost any PG-13 movie you'll see, both from a sixual content, and a language standpoint. And again, I can PM you these specific instances if you would like, in an attempt for you to avoid them.

Cheers and hope this helps.

Edit: Oh, it's also probably worth mentioning. That you probably won't even encounter 90% of the examples I mentioned up above. For a good majority of them, you REALLY have to go out of your way to talk to an obscure NPC or choose one of like 3 dialogue options to even hear it. I've just played the game for over 2,000 hours and have spoken with nearly NPC in the game at length. But most people probably don't even recognize half of these instances. They're simply that rare.

Why/when was the rating bumped up?

Lol.

On the topic of foul language, there is a seldom "GD" thrown around every once in a while. I know many, including myself, find this almost as offensive as dropping the F-bomb so I thought it might be worth mentioning. But as stated above, Oblivion is remarkably clean for a game of this age; it's really quite refreshing.



I know when I first bought the game, I bought the vanilla version with a "T" rating. I'm not quite sure when, but it was later bumped up to a "M" rating.

Thanks a lot! I really appreciate the detailed explanation, Two listen! Oh, and could you please PM the list? Thanks!

I do not believe there to be a single "GD" in the entire game. They say damn, but not in the manner you described. There is no "God" in Oblivion, there are multiple gods. The nine divines. They would not say "[censored]", as a result. And they certainly do not say "Talos damn". Because that is silly.

Please provide me with the NPC or specific instance in which this is used. Because I've played the game for years and do not recall a single instance of the "GD" term.

Edit:

UruwashiiLC - No problem my friend. Let me know if I can be of even more specific help, however that may be.

Savlian Matius says it when you consult him on the topic of Kvatch. I remember it because I too was taken aback due to the reason you just mentioned.

The official explanation is that the content is more disturbing than what was originally rated (plenty of examples in the Dark Brotherhood). The hidden nvde resources may or may not have figured into the decision, but that's what everybody not familiar with the actual rating decision points to anyway.

My kids agreed that, nothing to do with the nvdes that you can't enable on consoles anyway, the game is properly rated M for "intense violence, blood and gore", even though there are many M-rated games where these elements are much more intense.

You are correct indeed! (Just loaded a character and tried it - is it hilarious that in my 2,000 hours of gameplay I've only done the main questline once?)

He says just regular "damned" a couple times. But when you use the "Kvatch" dialogue option he says "My home...my GD home, blah blah blah."

That's really interesting, and makes no sense. But fair enough and thanks for pointing that out. I can't think of any other instances where it is mentioned, but you're definately right. It is possible.

Oh, I just realized my copy was Teen. I could have sworn it was mature.

It really does make no sense. Maybe he's a latent monotheist

There are two of them in a single piece of dialogue with http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Bugak_gro-Bol at Southern Books in Leyawiin.

I'm going to find my pitchfork, now. Not only do they want us to apparently read books, but when we finally break down to go read them - they insult us with this...blasphemy!

Ah...there's my pitchfork.

Oh? Not to be nitpicky, but the Godhead which is the totality of everything that is?



Not that it matters a great deal, as those who realize such in the world either zero-sum or exist of themselves past mortal death.

I said Oblivion, not Morrowind. But I suppose that the realm is supposed to be somewhat consistant between the two games, so I see your point.

That is Morrowind, right? I didn't actually play through Morrowind nearly as much as Oblivion, I just assume given who's teachings we're talking about.

Technically, it's neither. It's a developer-written http://www.imperial-library.info/obscure_text/ that doesn't appear in either game. 'Tis a generally-accepted lore theory that came from the hand of Vivec's creator, MK.

And I was just being snarky, to be honest. In-game characters would have no basis to say "God" in the singular sense, so Savlian's and Bugak's dialogue remains problematic.

just stay away from the book "The lusty argonian maid".

Lol i actually did read that. Its only a small section but i found it hillarious

that book was more of a dirty joke than a advlt book.

Must be a lucky guy to have a spear in Oblivion.

"The Real Barenziah" series mentions some things related sixuality as well, but nothing major.

Weebam-Na says "Donkey [censored]" when you ask him about Leyawiin, and the Imperial Legion says "Bastards" a bit.