DB Quest: Is it right to kill Amaund Motierre? Discuss.

Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:20 pm

Only just got to finish up the DB questline, as i had been playing a mage all along.

So just to refresh your memory, in the DB quest "Hail Sithis", where you go kill the emperor, he tells you he willingly die
without a fight but wants you to kill Amaund Motierre who wanted his death. Im wondering what are your reactions to that?

So did anyone kill Amaund Motierre?

I know there are no consequences to gameplay if you kill him or not, but
because i like roleplaying my character, i feel its just not right to do so.

Reasons are:

1) The Emperor never did the Dark Sacrament
(This is VERY IMPORTANT i feel, and is the main reason why DB are so infamous.
DB to me is not about being just a killer. Anyone can kill, guards, bandits, monsters. Its the Dark Sacrament that makes them
unique. This is what summons them for a job. Each kill is a job. If the person does not get in the way of the job, he/she will not die)

2) What sort of message is the DB sending out to potential clients if they're also killing their clients lol

3) Some people say the whole mess started with Amaund Motierre so they should kill him.
But i disagree. The whole situation started with the NIGHT MOTHER telling you to meet him.

Amaund was merely a client who wants a job done, nothing more, nothing less.
Won't you be defiling the Night Mother's instruction by killing him?

What are your views? Did you kill / not kill Amaund?
What made you arrive to that decision?
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Sara Johanna Scenariste
 
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 12:21 am

I saw it more from the view point of a citizen of the empire. Would you want to be ruled by someone who would get anyone in his way killed. I mean yeah I like the DB and all but they kill for their deity not just for power
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Inol Wakhid
 
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:51 am

I didn't kill him, even though I knew I had the option. It wouldn't be professional to kill a client.

Business is business.
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Andrew Tarango
 
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 5:19 am

I killed him both times I played the DB questline, because I didn't like his attitude.
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Ana Torrecilla Cabeza
 
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:42 am

Basically the sole reason I didnt was BC he didnt preform the black sacrement.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:40 am

I saw it more from the view point of a citizen of the empire. Would you want to be ruled by someone who would
get anyone in his way killed. I mean yeah I like the DB and all but they kill for their deity not just for power

Sorry so did you kill Amaund? Anyway i don't even think Sithis qualifies as a deity rite?
Isn't the official deities the 9 divines? Do the DB kill for their deity? They feel more like killing for a job rather then for any religious purposes.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:12 am

Sorry so did you kill Amaund? Anyway i don't even think Sithis qualifies as a deity rite?
Isn't the official deities the 9 divines? Do the DB kill for their deity? They feel more like killing for a job rather then for any religious purposes.

Even though Sithis isn't Aedra/Daedra, I think he would still count seeing as he is formless and is the agent of change.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:42 pm

I kill him every time. Simple reason I was tasked with a job. I didn't kill in the name of Sithis. I killed in the name of greed. No gray area for on this one. The old man made a request before I slit his throat. He asked for revenge for his death, a dying wish. I granted it. After all a lot of the other contracts I took on were for lesser reasons. "Oh a family doesn't like me anymore, kill them!" The money was good so I did. Again. greed. Costs money to live the life my characters do. :)
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 2:17 am

I kill him every time. Simple reason I was tasked with a job. I didn't kill in the name of Sithis. I killed in the name of greed. No gray area for on this one. The old man made a request before I slit his throat. He asked for revenge for his death, a dying wish. I granted it. After all a lot of the other contracts I took on were for lesser reasons. "Oh a family doesn't like me anymore, kill them!" The money was good so I did. Again. greed. Costs money to live the life my characters do. :smile:

Fair enough.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:18 am

Bastard i killed him and after that i deleted my save knowing what those pricks at Bethesda made me do...
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:53 am

I killed him, since my contract for him didn't obligate me to not kill him once our business was done.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:02 am

I thought about it for a bit before deciding not to kill him. I thought it was unprofessional to kill a customer. If an assassin routinely takes jobs from dying target, people would stop hiring assassins and business would dry up.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 6:08 am

I kill him every time. The way I see it, my character never passes up an opportunity to kill someone out of vengeance. This doesn't mean anyone the Dark Brotherhood kills can make a revenge request and I'll take it, the Emperor didn't fight back because he saw it as inevitable. So he made a request and I obliged.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 7:30 am

Killing the Emperor is DB buiseness but killing Mortierre is my freelancing.

And don't worry, about the DB reputation becouse of that, Mortierre's black sacrament was a secret, only the Brotherhood will know who killed him.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:30 pm

I thought about it for a bit before deciding not to kill him. I thought it was unprofessional to kill a customer. If an assassin routinely takes jobs from dying target, people would stop hiring assassins and business would dry up.
It wouldn't, because I hihgly doubt people would go about bragging how they hired an assassin to kill someone. :D
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:10 pm

I killed him because my character's family and the Motierre clan have some bad blood between them. The Motierre clan destroyed Athena's home in High Rock and had her go into hiding for years. Athena actually performed the Black Sacrament to try and hire the Dark Brotherhood to get revenge, but they never responded due to the loss of the Listener.

The way she sees it, Athena's fulfilling her own contract by killing Motierre.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:02 pm

The Emperor just isn't any target he IS the Emperor. And he accepted his death with dignity and grace. For anyone else who hired me to kill the client I would of course say no. But for The Emperor, for the man whose death will remind the world that the Dark Brotherhood isn't gone, and that no one is untouchable. For the man who will in death restore the Nightmother to glory I will grant one last favor.

And don't worry, about the DB reputation becouse of that, Mortierre's black sacrament was a secret, only the Brotherhood will know who killed him.

Exactly
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:24 am

The Emperor just isn't any target he IS the Emperor. And he accepted his death with dignity and grace. For anyone else who hired me to kill the client I would of course say no. But for The Emperor, for the
man whose death will remind the world that the Dark Brotherhood isn't gone, and that no one is untouchable. For the man who will in death restore the Nightmother to glory I will grant one last favor.

Very intriguing and inspiring.
I suppose you're also an Imperial supporter too? But you can't be, how can you be an imperial supporter if you kill the emperor?
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 11:57 am

Very intriguing and inspiring.
I suppose you're also an Imperial supporter too? But you can't be, how can you be an imperial supporter if you kill the emperor?

Quite easily. My character decided that Empress was a pretty neat title, and decided to take it for herself. To that end she killed Mede, and Motierre (can't really do it in game but role played that she put the letter he sent to Astrid on him) while wearing the Penitus Oculatus armor to make it seem like they had discovered who was behind the plot after destroying the Sanctuary in Falkreath.

With the Elder Council discredited, and the Emperor's seat vacant, my character, the Dragonborn who saved the world from Aludin, Thane in all the Holds of Skyrim, and the war hero who ended Ulfric's life, can march into Cyrodiil escorted by a dragon and make a pretty convincing bid for the throne. She's got a pretty convincing resume and has aligned the pieces pretty carefully in her bid for power.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:48 am

Very intriguing and inspiring. I suppose you're also an Imperial supporter too? But you can't be, how can you be an imperial supporter if you kill the emperor?

The will of the Night Mother is/should be above your own political sympathies. You could be empire supporter, hah even best buddies with Empeor himself, but if the NM demand him dead, you will obey as a listener, so nothing personal.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 4:48 am

The Emperor just isn't any target he IS the Emperor. And he accepted his death with dignity and grace. For anyone else who hired me to kill the client I would of course say no. But for The Emperor, for the man whose death will remind the world that the Dark Brotherhood isn't gone, and that no one is untouchable. For the man who will in death restore the Nightmother to glory I will grant one last favor.

This. Titus Mede II accepted his death with humility and grace, and in that moment I gained incredible amounts of respect for him. I'd certainly want my dying wish to be fulfilled. It may not be the right thing to do, but it is the honourable thing to do.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:37 am

Sorry so did you kill Amaund? Anyway i don't even think Sithis qualifies as a deity rite?
Isn't the official deities the 9 divines? Do the DB kill for their deity? They feel more like killing for a job rather then for any religious purposes.

Yeah I did kill him because

It seems the reason he wanted the emporer dead is because he had a good shot at becoming the next emporer and I didn't want to have an emporer that would be willing to back stab someone who he has sworn fealty to
I didn't really like his attitude
As others said due to the secrecy of the contract I doubt it would hurt business


And sithis is a deity, he is the void which many believe all aedra and daedra come from (or something along those lines)
So arguably he could be called more of a deity than the 9 divines
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 8:33 am

Killed him, honoring a dying mans wish and all.
And if he did move up to emperor, I'm sure I would have had to kill him later anyways.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 3:10 am

I kill him.
A good man requested it, and I will honour his request.
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Post » Thu Jun 07, 2012 1:34 am

I killed him. Why not? As has been mentioned, Titus took it like a man, and motierre in charge of the empire would be catastrophic. Another soul for sithis, another big scalp for the DB.
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