there aren't factions patrolling all over, the only place i ever found a patrol was ncr patrolling not too far from camp searchlight, thats it, none of the factions patrol and new vegas has a such a static map world it ain't even funny.

FO3 is always rated at 9.0 or better and new vegas is usually rated between 7.5 and 8.5, so it hasn't surpassed FO3, only in your mind and the other besthesda bashers...new vegas is desolate and most of the factions live in tents, there's hardly any buildings or towns on the map considering how huge the map is, they didn't do a very good job of filling it up, piling a bunch of tents together and calling that the ceasers legion fort is pretty lame, even ncr lives in tents, new vegas is dull and boring after the first couple playthrus and the entire gameworld is totally predictable.

the new vegas story isn't a selling point, its not that great a story, its just a story, mediocre. and you like NV better cause you don't like a lot of combat or exploration.

in a way the what game is better argument is kinda lame, really it comes down to what people want in a game, as a bethesda fan, i like combat and exploration, the story is of no consequence to me, put in lots of buildings and dungeons to explore, a big open dynamic world with lots of combat and i'm fine, thats a bethesda game, on the other hand you have people who like reading hours and hours of dialogue and really couldn't care less if there was any dungeons or big buildings to explore or much combat and those people are gonna prefer new vegas. two totally different types of games. so comparing the two games is kinda like comparing apples and organges, some people like apples and some people like oranges.

That was strangely unbiased of you West.

Well F3 is only better than Fallout: New Vegas in the minds of the people who have posted reviews or submitted ratings. Ratings don't mean [censored], if you like that game and can justify it good for you, don't call other people wrong just because they are in the minority about liking or disliking a form of entertainment. I don't like football unlike most but people in the UK so am I wrong not to like it because the majority does?

yes i have to agree with you considering that FNV could have had alot more stuff added to it to make it stand out. But they didnt do that. Reading hours of stupid dialoge is dumb. Why take up your whole time talking to several people about something and not have any combat what so ever. I think that its sad that you can go to new vegas without even killing a single person. it shows that its not dangerous at all more like boring

@shadow hes not biased hes just pointing out the obvious. Its true i like F3 alot and FNV doesnt have some aspects of F3 that i crave. It gets boring after a play through or two and people just wait for a DLC to come out to help make it more lively. then go back to something else once there dont with the DLC.

Fallout New Vegas is a Great Fallout. Best Fallout since Fallout 2 IMO.



Agreed. Ratings are complete crap. Ratings today are mostly based on the latest graphics, and since Fallout New Vegas uses Fallout 3's engine, New Vegas' graphics are "dated and old." Rating are also based on the number of http://www.break.com/usercontent/2009/7/michael-bay-explosions-821047

Most people that give reviews and did interviews before New Vegas came out knew nothing about Fallout and Fallout 2.

ROFL robot chicken classic. Almost craqed my pants watching that. EXPLOSIONS BAMMMM.

Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

My opinion?
NV Story > Fallout 3 Story



I like combat, and exploration. I liked New Vegas better.

Isnt this whole thing about peoples opinion...

so thats just like my opinion MAN.

That's not true. There are plenty of factions placed in static positions around the Mojave, but aside from some Fiends and NCR running into each other near McCarran and the Wandering Trader/Crimson Caravan Company caravans nobody's patrolling anywhere. You simply don't run into the same kind of pitched battles between different factions that you would stumble across in FO3, aside from scripted, quest-specific instances like the battle for Hoover Dam or the re-taking of Nelson.

Yeah, I'm just emphasizing that.

Also;
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dikey:

I've come across NCR + Legion soldiers wandering around before. They've even gotten into battles in front of me.

The dude must abide XD

New Vegas is, I think on a whole, a better game than Fallout 3 is. It improved and expanded on many things Fallout 3 didn't do.

However, Fallout 3 did immersion better. New Vegas suffered a bit from its surroundings and I never truly felt connected to the World. It didn't have that same "feel" that Fallout 3 had.

as a Obsidan game, it was in the top 10% overall
as a Beth game, it was kind of lacking if that is what you prefer.

Either way I personaly thought it was a good game.

as far as im concerned its kind of like comparing a Good Superman comic creative team to a Good Xmen Comic book creative team.

All of you guys complaining bout having too much story and too little combat need to remember that this a [censored] RPG!!!

I liked that there were multiple factions and lots more choices to make than fallout 3. However all I can really think of when somebody mentions new vegas is my ps3 crashing. I have stopped playing the game not because i dont like it but because i spent a LOT of time creating an energy weapon character after the patch and now I have gotten every skill book, power armour training and level 14 THEN it decides to crash whenever I walk through freeside. I was looking forward to the true iron sights feature but it turned out to be horribly implemented with some weapons not have the option and most of them having very poor sights, shooting with true iron sights just feels wierd and very frustrating. I also hated when i first fired a mni nuke , the invisible barriers are a complete joke

Where as in fallout 3 i had to put many hours into a playthrough before it would start to crash, new vegas crahsed several times during the first day I had it so i have to say the game as a whole is a huge disapointment just because i cant trust to play it without freezing. I will definatlty not buy any of the dlc but if there were no bugs i would have likely completed dead money to 1st day it was out ... thank god for new engine in skyrim

Oh and the radio is new vegas was i found extremely poor :sadvaultboy:

Isnt that the guy from true grit.

I was 2nd in line at Target once, and this girl in front of me says to her friend (the cashier), "They said these [sunglasses] make me look like Mick Jagger, and the cashier said "Who is that?". :lmao:

That is most definately not John Wayne.

He's talking about the 2010 version, which I have to say was pretty damn amazing. I saw it on Christmas day, and it was awesome.

But, he fails because he doesn't know The Dude, and The Dude must abide.

I played FO3, a lot, with like thousand hours in total.

In FO3, the only choice you have is whether a NPC live or dies; aside from to kill or not to kill, you made zero impact the Capital Wasteland.

There is no "random" patrol in FO3, there is just more spawn points; while in NV patrol actually start from their base and walk around their parameter. The only patrol in FO3 are the Caravans; Mercs, Hunters and wastelanders are all generated by "random" encounters, while Outcast is usually drag across DC because of their AI, and Enclave just sit around their outposts.

And FO3's spawn points is not even designed with character development in mind; FO3 is the one sticking spawn point all over the map, and THAT, is not quality. And yes, the same raiders always spawn at Super Dupermart, you just don't know if they would suddenly arm with a Firelance or Alien Blaster.

And an RPG should have both good story and good combat, no?

NV had a good story but its combat was a bit lacking; the story being good isn't an excuse for the combat not being up to par.

There is adequate combat, imo, you just arent being shot at when you walk out of sight to take a piss.