I remember reading somewhere that most shops are open from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. Ok...no problem with that.

Some shops (the Pawned Prawn is my current thorn in my side) are open until nearly midnight. Ok, I guess I can see that.

But my big question is WHY IN THE NAME OF SAM HILL ARE PEOPLE UP COOKING AT FOUR IN THE MORNING?????

My character is a thief. He prefers breaking and entering to picking pockets. But how in the hell are you supposed to steal some of the quest items if the owners NEVER go to sleep?

As a sidebar...why does it seem like half of the places I need to break into have a city guard posted within sight of the door (looking at Bolli's house in Riften...another quest goal)?

I can understand not making things too easy but seriously? Doesn't anyone ever sleep?

use an invisibility potion

I imagine it's like trying to steal from a shop in Morrowind... that was uh... a lot of fun I guess.

Use an expensive potion to break into a house to steal an item just because people seem to run on a 20-hour day?

Wouldn't it be a better solution for people to just sleep at night?

Depends on the people and shop. Some quest relevant locations are up extra long just so you don't have to wait to get to them. But return to a regular schedule after the particular quest.

It's not expensive if you just make the potion yourself. I believe a Luna Moth Wing and Ice Wraith Teeth will do the trick... if it doesn't last long enough make a couple or raise your alchemy skill, it's worthwhile for other reasons too.

yea, its especially annoying when you are a vampire, makes it a misery to play as a vampire when practically no one sleeps for you to feed on unless its 2 in the morning...

Yeah i never see inn keepers sleep, or many other people. It's rediculous.

Or vamp dust!

Most places I go to are closed up. But I noticed in Riften some fo the places are open late at night. As for people cooking at 4 in the morning. Some folks do this in RL. My mother was up at 4:30 AM every morning most of my life doing stuff even if she didn't have to work that day.

It is 4 AM when you enter... by the time you get the door closed, it is noon... Something to do with the 2-seconds = ten-hours in this game...

LOL, ok, slight exaggeration...

Try the console command...
Set TimeScale to 5
(That is one-minute real-time = 5 minutes game-time.)
Makes shadows less annoying too... they don't slide across the ground every five seconds, like four feet every move.

For semi-realistic time, which doesn't break the game completely.
Default is 20
(That is one-minute real-time = 20 minutes of game-time.)

Also note: If you have v-sync disabled, in the INI or in your video-card settings... You are breaking the game-time... 4AM may be the games actual 7AM... But the shops will still not open until the clock actually says 8AM, but the people will be walking around like it is 8AM at 4AM... and eventually midnight... and eventually trying to sleep at noon, if you continue to play out-of-sync with v-sunc disabled. (Seporate triggers for actions and events. They have not fixed that bug.)

No one seems to sleep (or sleep more than a few minutes) in this game. In Oblivion you could pretty much bank on most NPCs being in bed from midnight to 6 or 7 AM. Not Skyrim. Totally unrealistic.

Guess I'm the odd man out, as the whole schedule thing actually annoys me. NPCs don't need sleep. If I'm ready to buy, sell, or quest, then your lazy NPC azz needs to be there for me. Having to stand around while my "wait timer" clicks down doesn't add any sense of realism, serve any purpose, or enhance my game experience in any way. Does your character actually find a bed and sleep eight hours a night, every game day? I'd bet a dollar to a doughnut that you don't, but maybe you do. Either way, you still have to wait on NPCs that do. It's ok for a game to be a game. I can play "real life" anytime, 24/7. let me have some fun playing a game.


As for "immersion" and "emulating the real World" in a video game. I'll remember that the next time I slay a Dragon on the way to the grocery store.


P.s. Please don't take this as negative. I love this game,I am an avid gamer, the OPs post just reminded me of how much I'm baffled by the whole schedule thing.

This.

And for [censored]s sake, schedules are an intergral part of TES games.

Why should NPCs have to sleep when PCs don't?

I actually encounter lots of sleeping people during my thieving and assassinating exploits

I used to sleep. . . then I took an arrow in the knee.

Better yet, do what I do, make 600 of them and keep chugging them down as you work. Then for good measure, slit the throat of anyone who might be a bother.

You should look up the difference between realism and believability

That the problems most peoples are concerning about TESeries, aint like the previous series at all. So many things changing over each softwares and every employees that worked for them has made so many things different and fading away the older game experiences.

You guys remember playing Daggerfall or Morrowind? Does this game have any taste or experiences like the previous TESeries? I think not and not happy with it either, its either new ppls have been taken over the companies and making it more simply hack and slash games rather than serious roleplaying series that took place many years ago.

They dont care much about how you guys feel, they see what they believe in and see fit to make profits rather than stay on tracks of previous TESeries. So many good things going down the drain

that's why I see sleeping people everywhere at night...

Or you mean not everybody sleeps at night, how unnatural.

I don't seem to have this problem
don't do much sneak thieving or anything, I just take what I want
but I often have to wake people up to speak to them

like" hey jarl wake up, i killed those bandits like you told me"
jarl:" ah yes, here's your money" and he goes back to sleep

You should look up "Irrelevant to my dislike of the system". :poke: Honestly, it really does just boil down to "I don't like it".