A question for people planning on playing Skyrim on PC : V - Skyrim

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:27 pm

Probably, eventually but I'd wait until the price had dropped considerably, maybe for the GOTY or similar edition.
I got a lot of play out of unmodded MW but very little from unmodded Oblivion.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:05 pm

I'd probably still get it in the unlikely event it wasn't modable, but the off centered camera alone would perturb me and hinder the experience substantially. Thankfully, Beth knows mods have extended the lifespans of its former modable games making for more sales, so *I doubt they'd ever put out an Elder Scrolls or Fallout game without sharing the editor.

*knock on wood*

I know it's slightly off topic, but what program do you use? I tried one a long time ago but it was limited to like 100MB.

Seconded. My rig's max is 8GB, but if Skyrim <= 6GB, I might try this. Would be cheaper than getting a SSD.

Edit: Thanks, Starforce9

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:38 am

http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk
Up to 4GB is free, more cost $15....I picked up the full version.

I hope this doesnt count as advertising.

Thanks. This will be especially useful whenever I get a new computer since it's so cheap to get far more RAM than most games use.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:28 am

*knock on wood*Seconded. My rig's max is 8GB, but if Skyrim <= 6GB, I might try this. Would be cheaper than getting a SSD.

Edit: Thanks, Starforce9

Thanks. This will be especially useful whenever I get a new computer since it's so cheap to get far more RAM than most games use.

No problem. I installed the original Halo to a 1.6GB RAMdisk a few weeks ago. 0 loading screens and upwards of 1300FPS. Very interesting to play around with.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:44 am

Yes, for the better graphics

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:10 pm

Even if it didn't come with a modding SDK there would still be ways to mod the game, it would just be more difficult to do so.

People mod PC games all the time which have zero support for mods.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:11 pm

Eventually, but not on or near release date. Without mods I'd wait until the price dropped to around twenty bucks before I would get it.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 6:31 pm

http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk
Up to 4GB is free, more cost $15....I picked up the full version.

I hope this doesnt count as advertising.

You use that program to create them?

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:15 pm

You use that program to create them?

Yeah, it allows you to set the size of the RAMdisk. It only lets your format in FAT16 or FAT32 but you can just go into the partition manager in Windows and format as NTFS.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:24 am

Would have to vote unsure on that one. There are plenty of games that are just fine without mods. I will be honest.... If I had been unable to mod Oblivion, I wouldn't be buying Skyrim. I count on mods for Bethesda games to un-fix a lot of the stream-lining that they do.

I had to shut down Oblivion after just 5 hours of playing because those compass markers were ruining the whole experience for me. If I hadn't been able to remove those, I likely would have never played it further as I was so frustrated by them.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 1:41 pm

Yes, it would still be the best version available.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:49 am

If it didn't have mods, I'd buy it for my 360, heh.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:58 am

Yes. I would rage, OH HOW I WOULD RAGE! But at the end of the day, if mods were the only important thing, I would never have left morrowind. The game will still be worth my $50-$60 even if it doesnt have the year and a half of shelf life/game time that a nice, heathy TES modding community will provide a game. Oblivion was one of the best purchases I have ever made, eclipsed only by the orange box and the SDK base's modding community. So much replayability is a halmark of Bethesda RPGs, and I would be stunned at the lack of support. However, still worth my time and money, just not as amazingly so as previous titles.

Also, RAAAAAGE!!!!

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:15 am

Install the game to a portion of RAM. (A ton of RAM is needed, atleast enough to fit the game) Loading times on standard HDDs are within 80MB-150MB. SSDs are 130MB/s to 400MB/s usually. RAM can load at upwards of 3GB-5GB/s. http://i438.photobucket.com/albums/qq102/Starforce9/Storagecomparison.jpg That was between a 60GB SSD, a WD Caviar Green 2TB, a 10,000RPM Velociraptor and a 1GB DDR2 Ramdisk.

That's very cool!!! :blink:

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:57 am

No. If Skyrim didn't support mods, i'd refuse to buy the game out of principle.

cutting your nose off to spite your face would make no difference to Bethesda because they don't know you from Adam. So your principle is irrelivent

I played Oblivion on the 360 with no mods and got thousands of hours from it. So I would still happily buy it on PC, which is the format I am considering getting it for this time round

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:55 am

I voted no, based on what Oblivion was like.

The mods are what saved Oblivion for me.

And the same is true for Fallout 3 (and Fallout NV).

Plus I enjoy the challenge of modding these games, and spent way more time on my FO3 & NV mods than on playing either game.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:08 am

No, I would not buy if they didn't release the dev tools.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:58 pm

Yeah I would still buy it even if it had no mods... 'cus then it'd be like playing the console versions, but with better performance and graphics still.

The content in Skyrim is enough to last me possibly years anyway.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 8:34 am

Yes, but I'd be really disappointed.

+1

But at least, I might play the game more (spent most of my time in Oblivion and Morrowind playing and testing mods than actually enjoying the vanilla game :teehee: )

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 7:22 am

http://memory.dataram.com/products-and-services/software/ramdisk
Up to 4GB is free, more cost $15....I picked up the full version.

I hope this doesnt count as advertising.

What would happen if you were running a heavily modded game? I'm buying a new rig, and the Ramdisk idea has me intrigued. I might buy more ram than I originally planned and experiment with this.

One of the most useful posts I've seen on a forum, thanks for sharing that with us Starforce.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:21 am

Unsure.

But at least, I might play the game more (spent most of my time in Oblivion and Morrowind playing and testing mods than actually enjoying the vanilla game :teehee: )

What's cool about Mods is that, if they "graphically fit" with the rest of the game ( no anime/cartoon-style textures/models ), and optionally even with the lore, it's hard to tell the difference from what's vanilla and what is not untill you remember what you downloaded one or two hours ago. =P

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 10:28 am

What would happen if you were running a heavily modded game? I'm buying a new rig, and the Ramdisk idea has me intrigued. I might buy more ram than I originally planned and experiment with this.

One of the most useful posts I've seen on a forum, thanks for sharing that with us Starforce.

Well if you ran out of memory then it would crash. But I am assuming that the game installed will take about 8GB, then shouldnt go above 1.5GB used for memory used ingame. So thats about 9.5-10GB...unless modded, which I still have plenty of space left over for mods and memory it can access. Like I said it takes a lot of RAM.

I was actually playing around with the idea of making a dedicated RAMdisk server with 64GB RAM and installing multiple games over the network....of course just a theory as it would take about $4000 to get it all up and running, including the 10Gbp/s NIC on both the server and gaming PC. No problem, I find the program very interesting/useful.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:47 pm

I would get it, but NOT at launch day for full price. I'd wait until the Steam Christmas sale.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 2:50 am

No. If Skyrim didn't support mods, i'd refuse to buy the game out of principle.

^

I would possibly buy it if they went the BF3 route with design.

Possibly.

but most likely i would just not buy it out of principle; The Witcher 2 has an SDK release.

» Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:06 pm

^

I would possibly buy it if they went the BF3 route with design.

Possibly.

but most likely i would just not buy it out of principle; The Witcher 2 has an SDK release.

Incidentally, I am not buying BF3 both because it has no mod support, and also because they are forcing Origin.