Self explanatory title here, I can't seem to find a justifiable AR that beats my Kross SMG build.. but I really want to. Also, for those who praise the Gerund, what are some builds for it that make it super awesome..and why is it super awesome haha?

Thanks!

The Gerund has the most accuracy out of all the assault rifles when you look down the sights.

More than the FRKN-3K and the Rokstedi, even.

My Ar of choice is the Euston with a Goga scope, taped magazine and nade launcher. The recoil resizes the barrel of the gun up when firing for long durations, but in bursts it's a complete beast. With armor piercing rounds I've been able to bring heavies down with half a clip, and can usually drop 2 mediums or 3 lights before having to reload.

Gerund with a muzzle break and foregrip is a really stable gun. Its super accurate, and when iron-sighting, you can quickly tap-fire to have literally no recoil/spread, or do longer bursts at medium range. The Euston is stronger at close ranges, but I feel that I can put more shots on target in a given amount of time with the Gerund, since it doesn't require as much recoil/spread management.

Scope and magazine are completely opinion-based for any weapon. I usually use an extended mag for nice reload/mag-size balance, and the greeneye because its the reflex scope with the smallest impact on equip speed.

For my soldier, I have a launcher on my Gerund, with a muzzle break and a standard mag to try to balance the negatives.

The Gerund AR is great for shooting from hip...
...slap a down-vent muzzle brake on for a bit extra stability, speed sling and duct-taped magazines for better reloads, and off you go...
I suppose a front grip might be even more stable, but I prefer a faster reload myself.

Backup weapon I normally take with it is the Carb-9 SMG with same add-ons as my Gerund AR.

Thanks for the feedback guys... I think now I am looking for some builds for Medium Medics in terms of ARs.. was thinking Euston with launcher att because the clip size is small, this gives some more damage or at least a chance to take a guy down.... hows the Gerund hold up to that build?

Pretty well, actually. The hit to accuracy isnt as noticeable with the gerund. When i put the launcher on the Euston, i felt like it wouldnt hit the broad side of a barn.

If you're trying to fire at medium or long range, use the gerund.

If you're firing at close range use the euston.

This is basically what it boils down to. The Rhett is a good gun on its own, but long range it loses to the gerund hands down, and shot range it loses to the Euston hands down. I'm sure there are some ranges in the middle that it might be best, but it just comes across as the least of the three IMO.

I call Shenanigans on that. Where's that Den Kirson info...


Edit: Lynx, your username is blowing my mind.

http://denkirson.xanga.com/738334226/brink/
The Gerund is the most accurate AR while crouching and aiming, the FRKN-3K just barely edges it out with hipfire.

Weird, though I think the lack of recoil info makes it a little misleading. Feel like I miss with more of the clip from the Gerund then with the Rokstedi or FRKN-3K.

Rhett's better when you're not sticking to one extreme or the other consistently - it doesn't get the same performance hit as the others when working outside a preferred range.

lol ^^



On the topic of the gerund's accuracy/recoil... I know denkirson doesnt have any stats yet but all of the assault rifles have terrible recoil/stability. I have found, however, that if you fire 2-3 shot bursts with the gerund and wait the span of 1-2 shots inbetween those bursts, you can put pretty much every single shot on the exact same spot even at long range. It takes more self control to use, but it can definitely keep that accuracy up if you dont mash the trigger. Hell, against a heavy at medium range you can pretty much make 90% of your shots count as headshots with that gun =P

Even with recoil, the Gerund has its advantages at range. With the Rokstedi, you need to pause inbetween shots if you are trying to be a marksman, or else your shots can be off enough to miss by a large margin at longer ranges. With the Gerund, if you tap one bullet at a time as quickly as you like, the bullets will all hit the same spot.

Cant say much about the FRKN-3K though, I svck with it, so I dont use it much.

The Assault Rifles are all terrible for hipfire tbh... though I'd say the Gerund since it has the best overall accuracy.

On my beloved main Medium Medic character, I use the Gerund w/ Foregrip, Muzzle Break and COGA Scope (though I'll probably swap to the Greeneye when PS Store is working). That gun is insanely accurate & stable in 1-3 shot bursts, just tap it like crazy and enemies go down with no trouble. I use the standard mag because I want to preserve the accuracy, which it retains all the way up until long range. Basically, tap/burst fire ADS for long & mid range, tap/burst fire hipfire for close/mid range, and it's pretty safe to just hold down the trigger at point-blank... but bursting never hurt. I also use the Tampa w/ Muzzle Break like a Machine Pistol... a super-powered, god-mode Machine Pistol.

Pardon me for going slightly off topic here guys but if you sight AND crouch, do you get added accuracy than if you just did one or the other alone?

Nope, sighted accuracy is the same no matter what. Doesnt matter if you are standing, crouching, or even moving.

No, you don't
EDIT: should have known the cat would be quicker...

Cheers guys. As for hip firing, I like the Rhett. Nice all rounder Ive found.

Well not in most cases, but I find that for the Rokstedi it seems to cause spread to escalate slower. Might just be me going crazy though...

Crouching improves your accuracy over standing, and sighting improves it over crouching.

Sighting gives the best accuracy rating for all weapons regardless of whether or not you are standing, crouching, or even moving. Thus, there's no benefit to sighting and crouching at the same time (other than making yourself harder to hit, obviously).

is that the single shot AR? its lethal

i do love mixing up my weapons in this game. i usually have faves in games but each has its uses. i also have some with nade launcher, some with silencer, drum mags etc so i have a more varied selection than if they were all at stock.

According to Den, when he looked at the coding of the game, iron sight accuracy completely over-rides any other accuracy.

I know, I read that which is what made me think I was crazy, because I often take gun setups into Escort Duty and just fire them off in the Command Post room to test accuracy/handling. I'm pretty sure crouching with whilst scoped gives the Rokstedi optimum spread reduction, at least I found the shots to be more accurate than scoped whilst standing... this is on PS3 version, at least.