Hi there!

Well...I'm thinking...what is more ancient than dwemer,or ayleid?

Vampires?They can live for ever!

Why vampires haven't got more important role at the history of Tamriel?

Maybe the Aundae "antediluvian" can tell us what happened to dwemer,or ayleid,or something important.

Also,they are undead,not daedra,but they can't be used by necromancers...

What do you think?

I guess it's because vampires svck.

Blood?

Most vampires are savage beasts who don't give a crap about anything but feeding so I doubt they'll know about the dissapearance of the dwemer. Though vampires can get very old doesn't mean they will. However, there have been reports of vampires who are ancient. But like I said before they don't socialise so they don't know what happens around them. There might be a few vampires alive old enough to have lived among the dwemer I doubt they know what happened to them.

Well, we have witnesses to the Dwemer and they don't know what happened still (though we do); and whoever said it was a mystery what happened to the Aylieds?

We have a vampire count I do believe. And it is rumored that the Dres House Council is made up of Vampires, though it is just a rumor.

Vampires are very antisocial and care little of anything besides themselves, most of them also spend most of their lives in dungeons and tombs.

The fact that they're universally loathed by all who aren't vampires because of their antisocial behavior and regard for non-Vamps as nothing but cattle tends to prevent them from being more prominent as well. Ones like Count Janus Hassildor are a rare exception, and he's prominent solely because his vampiric nature is not. "Ancient" vampires are usually so overtaken by their hunger at that point that there's nothing else in their mind.

On that note... I wonder how old Janus is?



Indeed; I can tell you right now: Their society was on the verge of collapse from infighting when their slaves up and revolted, and then the Ayleids were finished off when their slaves (now their de facto masters) later went all religious fundie on the ayleids who survived past the initial revolt.

Hassildor is only like 50 years old. I think thats what i heard in the game.

There could very well be Vampires all the way from the first Era. Or even the Mythic age (not likely). Though I doubt any of them would ever talk to someone about what happened. Most likely they would become savage beasts who would even kill off fellow vampires out of insanity

I don't think so. Some of the other counts and countesses talk about him as if he's very old and has few peers, and how he is supposedly a powerful sorcerer, which explains his extended age. Fifty wouldn't be considered all that unusually old. This is not a modern setting, but remember that powerful healing magic is common and people probably don't die from many diseases.

They are more ancient that Dwemer or Ayleid... Only if they were born/infected before those two races. They're not a huge part of history because, as vampire lore goes, it's not really a standard conversation topic. They keep their affliction a secret.

They are undead, but not due to Necromantic arts, but instead, due to a disease. Summoning a vampire is like summoning your sick Uncle Bert, except that he has fangs and a lust for blood.

If they have, they're good at hiding that fact, so how would we know?

Walter:
Hmmm... this is startling... startling and intriguing.

THIS JUST IN: vampires are the new Illuminatus Psijics New Mundus Order.

Asking why Vampires don't have a major role in histroy is like asking why Amish people don't play a major role in history. They just don't really get out much :shrug:


Like the Universal Remonster? Hehe, kudos if you get the reference.

Hehe, ATHF owns

ahem, back on topic, since there are Vampire Clans in Vvarvenfell, and they are capable of giving out quests and waging war on the other clans, it seems that vampires are capable of maintaining some kind of sanity, though not any kind of conscience.

But,In Oblivion,the altmer vampire of the guild of vampire slayers,try to lie you,so,they are inteligent beings,a...

They are not daedra,they are no alive,or dead,and they are very powerful.

Why they don't begin a war against humans?

Or maybe,they are infiltrating,like the Skingrad count!

Vampires are obviously intelligent beings. All Vampires are, are humans with a disease that changes them. Its just that mostly with their new found abilities, their thirst and lack of sunlight usually makes them insane.

Vampires are very powerful true. But their weaknesses outweigh their positives. For one Vampires are restricted to the night. Humans can walk freely into the day or night. Plus Vampires need to drink blood to sustain themselves.

The reason they wouldn't start a war against the humans is because they do not have a huge enough faction big enough to even pose the slightest bit of a threat to the Empire. Since most Vampires are freelance and do not cut deals with each other. Remember the Empire can easily destroy any vampire threat that it poses against it. It has already destroyed very many other threats that has posed against it.

The Count in the Skingrad court is obviously not a vampire by choice. He is just an unlucky count who got bitten and now tries to keep it under raps.

But,do you think that vampires are a real underworld society,they are infiltrated,or they are mindless/soulless animals?

Who is praised by vampires?Wich is their god/s/ ?

Who created the Phorphyric hemophilia?

Daedric? No
Necromancers? No


Who?

Basically, Molag Bal. He [censored] a girl, left her for dead, and she became the first Vampire. That's the basics of it.

lol

I like that

Vampire Society

http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/immortal_blood.shtml - Key information, in that Vampires are tribal and clanlike


http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/incident_necrom.shtml - Overlooks fact that Vampires are immune to paralysis

Vampires are no more united then the men they come from. In morrowind, killing off massive amounts of rival clans was asked of you, not to mention the non-clan vampires that were shunned by them. In theory, Vampires could unite and rule over mankind. They cannot as they destroy themselves, much as we do. It is also spoken of the Diary of Springheel Jak http://www.imperial-library.info/obbooks/diary_springheel_jak.shtml that it took him nearly a century to regain his purpose.

Count Hassildor will also tell you that the Vampires in Bloodcrust Cave 'gave in to thier instincts, and are no more than animals!' Together all this seems to indicate that initially, vampires are little more than predators, driven by an intense hunger, and the shock of coming back to life, makes regaining your sense of self is an act of extraordinary willpower, not to mention that there are so many different strains of vampire, unification would be an arduous, if not near impossible task.

Plus if vampires were the dominant folks, they would eventually run low on food, massive civil war would ensue, their empire would fall, and you would be back to square one. A society is only as strong as the resources it controls, and its easier to have small factions that feed in the shadows, rather than an obvious overlording, the vampires are concerned solely with their own individual survival, those that have come back to their senses, realize all of the preceding most likely.

If they took over i would sit outside on a sunny day and lol @ them

Dont overlook the fact that Cyrodiilic Vampires can go out in sunlight if they've fed.....

o snap :spotted owl: That would have been a bad mistake on my part <_<