Questions from reading the Sermons : The Elder Scrolls Series Discussion

» Sun May 08, 2011 7:01 pm

I'm not sure what it is on a mechanical level (as in, what it looks like, I assume the name isn't by chance though), but VIvec's water face has the practical effect of him wearing it being the only time you're guaranteed to get the truth out of Vivec.

It comes from the ocean, which is too busy to think, much less lie. Moving water resembles truth by its trembling.

So it's... an attitude, a disposition he takes on at times? Not that it matters what it actually is, as long as it's understood.

» Sun May 08, 2011 7:25 pm

What is Vivec's Water Face?

And in Sermon 18,
What is the Book of Hours, and what does Almalexia mean?
The whole sermon puzzles me.

The way I took it is that the birth and the destruction of the eight monsters is Vivec relating the creation of Mundus in a way that keeps up the deception of the Tribunal's mythical importance. The creation of the Book of Hours killed Lorkhan who was the Thief just as Vivec was (hence Vivec's love for Talos/Shezzar/Shor/Lorkhan).
I know for certain that the first monster is the Dragon God(s) of Time. His being made of lines suggests both the equal validity of his multiple interprecarnations and that he is made of his jills, and his tribe, and his tribes' tribes.

» Sun May 08, 2011 2:30 pm

The way I took it is that the birth and the destruction of the eight monsters is Vivec relating the creation of Mundus in a way that keeps up the deception of the Tribunal's mythical importance. The creation of the Book of Hours killed Lorkhan who was the Thief just as Vivec was (hence Vivec's love for Talos/Shezzar/Shor/Lorkhan).
I know for certain that the first monster is the Dragon God(s) of Time. His being made of lines suggests both the equal validity of his multiple interprecarnations and that he is made of his jills, and his tribe, and his tribes' tribes.

...wrestling with the lessons he had learned. They were slippery in his mind. He could not always keep the words straight
Slippery indeed. I suspected that, but I couldn't see it clearly. It explains "The first monster was actually two" as well.

» Sun May 08, 2011 9:54 am

Also, in Sermon 19, can be understood as a reference to Akatosh/Lorkhan? Had the idea of their positions and duality been conceived yet when this was written? Or am I completely off-track?

I thing that it is reference to Talos (the two-headed king) and how the Empire (the moths) "conquered" Morrowind.