Questions on the lore

Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:57 am

I have a series of questions about TES Lore.

1. I've read that Tamerial is just a continent and Nirn is the whole world of TES. If this is true is there any mention of the other continents and where?

2. How did the Nord Skaal get to Solstheim 500+ years ago, wouldn't the Dunmer kick them out at that point in time because outlanders weren't welcome then. and, I've read on a post that there are Nordic gods, do they worship bears and wolves (the game says that they think they are sacred) and if not what do they worship?

3. The Ayelids are also called the Heartland High Elves. does that mean they are ancestors to Altmer the same way Chimer are the ancestors to the Dunmer.

4. Rieklings are said to be descendents of the Falmer are they intelligent elves or just mindless enemies?

thanks this would help clear some stuff up for me.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:52 am

I have a series of questions about TES Lore.

1. I've read that Tamerial is just a continent and Nirn is the whole world of TES. If this is true is there any mention of the other continents and where?

2. How did the Nord Skaal get to Solstheim 500+ years ago, wouldn't the Dunmer kick them out at that point in time because outlanders weren't welcome then. and, I've read on a post that there are Nordic gods, do they worship bears and wolves (the game says that they think they are sacred) and if not what do they worship?

3. The Ayelids are also called the Heartland High Elves. does that mean they are ancestors to Altmer the same way Dunmer are the ancestors to the Chimer.

4. Rieklings are said to be descendents of the Falmer are they intelligent elves or just mindless enemies?

thanks this would help clear some stuff up for me.


1. The known continents of Mundus are...

Atmora to the North of Tamriel, former home of the Nedic peoples (ancestors to Imperials, Bretons, and Nords.) Atmora is reportedly inhospitable, and the last ship containing people from it arrived on Tamriel years before the events of the games.
Yokuda to the west, former home of the ancestors to the Redguard people, it was mostly destroyed by the civil warring between the Redguard centuries before the games' events. The Yokudans were (and still are, as there are small islands left home to Yokudans) unparalleled warriors, able to use sword techniques that would create A-bomb sized explosions, culminating in the continent's destruction.
To the south lies Pyandonea, home to the Maormer, the Tropical Elves. Little is known of the Maormer, you can read about them here: http://www.imperial-library.info/pge3/other_lands.shtml
To the East lies Mysterious Akavir, home to several documented species, none of which are seen in the games, a lot of interesting information can be read on it in the Imperial Library.

2. The Skaal worship the All-maker, a diety which created all things (shocker). The Skaal view all of the all-maker's creations as sacred, while they view some things more positively than others. As for the Dunmer, it is not believe that they ever had much interest in Solstheim, if they did they were most likely turned off by the rugged climate and savage Nord populace.

3. The Ayleids are descended from the Aldmer, precursor to every race of Mer in Tamriel. The Altmer are the least differed from their Aldmeri cousins, but the Ayleids are descended from the Aldmer all the same.

4. It is not explicitly known, some believe Rieklings are in some way related to the Falmer of old, I personally believe the Rieklings are of goblin-kind, and completely unrelated.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:00 pm

Dunmer are the ancestors to the Chimer


Wrong way around. And in a sense, they are the Chimer - only thing that's changed naturally is their height, it seems. The rest is a curse.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:43 am

1. The known continents of Mundus are...

Atmora to the North of Tamriel, former home of the Nedic peoples (ancestors to Imperials, Bretons, and Nords.) Atmora is reportedly inhospitable, and the last ship containing people from it arrived on Tamriel years before the events of the games.
Yokuda to the west, former home of the ancestors to the Redguard people, it was mostly destroyed by the civil warring between the Redguard centuries before the games' events. The Yokudans were (and still are, as there are small islands left home to Yokudans) unparalleled warriors, able to use sword techniques that would create A-bomb sized explosions, culminating in the continent's destruction.
To the south lies Pyandonea, home to the Maormer, the Tropical Elves. Little is known of the Maormer, you can read about them here: http://www.imperial-library.info/pge3/other_lands.shtml
To the East lies Mysterious Akavir, home to several documented species, none of which are seen in the games, a lot of interesting information can be read on it in the Imperial Library.

2. The Skaal worship the All-maker, a diety which created all things (shocker). The Skaal view all of the all-maker's creations as sacred, while they view some things more positively than others. As for the Dunmer, it is not believe that they ever had much interest in Solstheim, if they did they were most likely turned off by the rugged climate and savage Nord populace.

3. The Ayleids are descended from the Aldmer, precursor to every race of Mer in Tamriel. The Altmer are the least differed from their Aldmeri cousins, but the Ayleids are descended from the Aldmer all the same.

4. It is not explicitly known, some believe Rieklings are in some way related to the Falmer of old, I personally believe the Rieklings are of goblin-kind, and completely unrelated.

Thanks that really cleared stuff up for me

Wrong way around. And in a sense, they are the Chimer - only thing that's changed naturally is their height, it seems. The rest is a curse.

My bad I wrote it down wrong.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:47 am

Wrong way around. And in a sense, they are the Chimer - only thing that's changed naturally is their height, it seems. The rest is a curse.


Their height? I thought only their skin colour changed (I'm guessing it used to be yellow before?) How tall were the Chimer then?
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:15 am

As tall as Altmer.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 12:33 pm

As tall as Altmer.

Well, the Bosmer are kind of short in TES III and so on, though in Daggerfall they are described as being tall.

Then again, Bosmer aren't quite Mer, are they?
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:20 pm

That's true, but the Chimer were Aldmer. The only differences were philosophical. Unless their worship of Daedra had regional or tribal connections, then there'd have been no physical differences.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:24 am

That's true, but the Chimer were Aldmer. The only differences were philosophical. Unless their worship of Daedra had regional or tribal connections, then there'd have been no physical differences.


On UESP it says that the Falmer, Bosmer, Dwemer, Ayleids, and Chimer broke off from the Aldmer.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Aldmer
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 11:07 am

On UESP it says that the Falmer, Bosmer, Dwemer, Ayleids, and Chimer broke off from the Aldmer.

http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/clanmother.shtml tells a different story about the Bosmer.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:52 pm

1. The known continents of Mundus are...
Atmora to the North of Tamriel, former home of the Nedic peoples (ancestors to Imperials, Bretons, and Nords.)

2. The Skaal worship the All-maker, a diety which created all things (shocker).

3. The Ayleids are descended from the Aldmer, precursor to every race of Mer in Tamriel.

4. It is not explicitly known, some believe Rieklings are in some way related to the Falmer of old, I personally believe the Rieklings are of goblin-kind, and completely unrelated.

1. That the Nedes (just one of many extinct tribes of men from the Niben) came from Atmora is propaganda from Tiber Septim's first Pocket Guide, which was ment to solidify an imperial, human effort against the Aldmeri Dominion.

Don't forget Thras :o

2. Just remember the Skaal aren't monotheistic, they are... now what's that word I'm looking for? There's a quote from Mr. Kirkbride about it.

3. When did the Dwemer split though, I don't remember?

4. Yeah, I have no comment on that, I just prefer that the Falmer stay dead...
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:44 pm

2. Just remember the Skaal aren't monotheistic, they are... now what's that word I'm looking for? There's a quote from Mr. Kirkbride about it.


Panentheistic seems to be what they are.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:06 am

Panentheistic seems to be what they are.

Real-world Vikings referred to Odin (or one of those dudes) as the "all-maker" or "all-father" so maybe the Skaal just worship one of the Aedra - Shor, perhaps?

@Luagar: Yup, and http://www.imperial-library.info/pge/aldmeridominion.shtml
"While sometimes amusing, the Bosmer have a bestial side. They can resort to animal shapes if they need to, or water. Their most dreaded transformation is the Wild Hunt, which killed King Borgas for the "iniquities" of his Alessian faith. The Wild Hunt is a pack of shifting forest-demons and animal-gods, thousands strong, which sweeps through the countryside killing everything its path. The Wood Elves do not like to talk about the Hunt, and I gather they do not feel proud of this power at all-Gomini, my Bosmer companion of late, tells me that the Hunt is used for justice, but that also, "every monster in the world that has ever been comes from a previous Hunt. Those Bosmer that go Wild, they do not return.""


And the mythology behind Y'ffre:
Most important deity of the Bosmeri pantheon. While Auri-El Time Dragon might be the king of the gods, the Bosmer revere Y'ffre as the spirit of 'the now'. According to the Wood Elves, after the creation of the mortal plane everything was in chaos. The first mortals were turning into plants and animals and back again. Then Y'ffre transformed himself into the first of the Ehlnofey, or 'Earth Bones'. After these laws of nature were established, mortals had a semblance of safety in the new world, because they could finally understand it. Y'ffre is sometimes called the Storyteller, for the lessons he taught the first Bosmer. Some Bosmer still possess the knowledge of the chaos times, which they can use to great effect (the Wild Hunt).

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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:21 am

Real-world Vikings referred to Odin (or one of those dudes) as the "all-maker" or "all-father" so maybe the Skaal just worship one of the Aedra - Shor, perhaps?


Try Anu as in the Altmeri Monomyth.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:13 am

Try Anu as in the Altmeri Monomyth.

With the Adversary being Padomay?
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 7:28 am

Kinda thought it was Lorkhan.

Haven't read Skaal lore in a year.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:26 am

Don't forget Thras :o


D'oh, forgot.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:55 am

Animistic, that's the word.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:16 am

Don't forget Thras :o

Who is Thras?
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:14 pm

Thras is the submerged land of the Sload people. The Sload, much like the Akaviri, have not interacted with Tamriel for centuries.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:31 am

2. How did the Nord Skaal get to Solstheim 500+ years ago, wouldn't the Dunmer kick them out at that point in time because outlanders weren't welcome then. and, I've read on a post that there are Nordic gods, do they worship bears and wolves (the game says that they think they are sacred) and if not what do they worship?



4. Rieklings are said to be descendents of the Falmer are they intelligent elves or just mindless enemies?

thanks this would help clear some stuff up for me.


2. well, hounestly i Dont think that the dark elves even knew of solstheim.
after it wasnt until twenty years before the nevarine proffecy (SP?) that vvardenfell was populated.

4. none know, I guess bethesda wants us to discuss it..
a tip; make search on "falmer" on this forum and read some of the big discussions..
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:33 pm

after it wasnt until twenty years before the nevarine proffecy (SP?) that vvardenfell was populated


It has been populated for thousands of years. It was just closed to Imperial colonisation.
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:02 am

Thras is the submerged land of the Sload people. The Sload, much like the Akaviri, have not interacted with Tamriel for centuries.

Mainly because the Imperial Navy sunk it after the sload of Thras infected Tamriel with a really nasty plague
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 6:23 pm

Who is Thras?

http://gamerus.net/eld/img/eld_map_big_files_west-central.jpg is what the continent of Thras and the continent Yokuda, post atomic crisis, look like.

Some illumination on that:
When we fight, our swords can kill the laws of nature itself. Yokuda is as you see it because our hira-dirg swords can cut the atomos, the uncuttable, and we did.

The 'we' are the Ansu, one Yoku tribe which elected not to go to Hammerfell. Actually, I think they are a sort of pariah for destroying Yokuda, but I don't remember where I may have read that.

And a bit about Thras:
Thras was supposedly destroyed by the All Flags Navy, but the third pocket guide, and the nature of choral, suggest the archipelago can grow. Or, the apotheosis and worship of the God of Worms may be the cause to the emergence of Thras and the waters' unusual tide around the islands. That's just theory though.

That likely just raised more questions than answers, so do a search at http://www.imperial-library.info/, its not a wiki.

Edit: Sorry, I thought that had Thras on it too :confused:
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Post » Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:19 pm

Mainly because the Imperial Navy sunk it after the sload of Thras infected Tamriel with a really nasty plague

Didn't it put a race to extinction?
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