Thanks for the confirmation. Here's hoping!

Is it possible to set a variable in an Object script from another script, without using Global/Quest variables? I have a Magic Effect ability script on the player, and it needs to change a variable in a script that is attached to an Activator object. This Activator object is created on the fly by using PlaceAtMe (yes I know about savegamebloating and will use DeleteReference to prevent this). I expected that this would work:

set ActivatorRef.LocalActivatorVariable to MyVar

Which is explained here:
http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/Reference_Variables



But that doesn't work at all, it won't even compile the script. Is this only possible by pre-placing the activator in the CS render window and giving it a unique Reference Editor ID? Because that would defeat the purpose of what I am trying to do.


Is there any other way at all to make two local scripts communicate through their variables without using global/quest variables as the middleman?

No. It is not possible.

Variable names from other scripts are resolved when you compile the script in the CS and are not kept in the compiled script. You need to use "SomePersistentReferenceID.varName" so the compiler may find the reference, find its script and find the variable within the script.

This last part (finding the variable within the script) cannot be done dynamically, because, as said, the variable names are not known at runtime.

Quest vars are perfect for inter-script communication.
Any particular reason why you don't want to use them?

Ah, thought so. I figured I'd ask anyway, you never know. Thanks for your reply!

I wanted it for mere convenience really. Eventually the Magic Effect ability script will be on many actors, who will/can all place their own instance of the Activator object in the world through PlaceAtMe, and I don't want to risk that two magic effect scripts try to communicate with their Activator object's script at the same time through the same quest variable, but I guess I can just use Array_var's to handle that. It just means a bunch more scripting that I rather avoided.

I should create a questscript that tracks all the PlaceAtMe objects in an array anyway, to make sure they get deleted properly and don't linger in the savegame causing bloating. I guess I can just include it in that.

EDIT: Problem solved.

I'm trying to alter the skeleton of the player and NPCs. I use string variables (NewSkeleton and OldSkeleton in the example) to declare the new skeleton (which works fine) and store the player's/actor real skeleton through GetModelPath. For the player, I'm using a function called SetPlayerSkeletonPath $NewSkeleton, which I found being used in another mod, and of which I can't find documented in the wiki nor in OBSE documentation. For the NPCs I'm trying to use http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/SetModelPath $NewSkeleton, followed by Update3D, which seems to be quite unstable.

A crash that indeed happens after changing the actor's skeleton back to his normal one through SetModelPath $OldSkeleton and calling Update3D.

Is there some way to avoid these crashes for swapping skeletons on NPCs?

Also, is it reliable to store string variables in a token item's script?

Nevermind, solved with ModModelPath, mmuch better!

Hey, i just want to know. How would i make a script that automatically adds an item or spell to the spells inventory/spell list right when i load up the game or start up a new game? thanks.

New question: How do I increase the number of uses for a Sigil Stone beyond 255? Is there a setting somewhere in the CS that I can alter to change this?

First, you have to make a new quest. To do this, click on the Q button that is just above the Object Window. Then right-click in the quest list and select New. Give your quest an ID (like MyItemAddQuest) and click OK and then close the Quest window. Now you need to make a script for it. Click on the button that looks like a pencil (second button to the right of the Q button). In the window that opens, click on Script and select New. In the Script Type dropdown box, select Quest. Now write your script. It should look something like:

scn AAMyItemAddScriptBegin GameMode ;this script will run as soon as the game starts and keep running once per frame until stopped with StopQuestPlayer.AddItem Item1ID 1 ;this will add one of the specified itemPlayer.AddItem Item2ID 1 ;this will add one of the specified itemPlayer.AddSpell SpellID ;this will add the specified spellPlayer.AddSpell SpellID ;this will add the specified spellStopQuest MyItemAddQuest ;this will stop the quest once it has added everythingend

Save your script and close the script window. Now click on the Q button again and find the quest you made earlier. Find the script you just made in the Script dropdown box and select it (note 1: starting your script name with AA will put it at, or near, the top of the list.). Close the Quest window again and you're done.

Note 2: If you don't include the StopQuest command in your script, all of the items will be added to your inventory over and over and you will quickly become over-encumbered.


The 255 limit is hard-coded in. If there is a way to change, I can't find it (and I've looked high and low).

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1152700-adding-itemspell-to-inventory-right-when-you-loadstart-oblivion/

OK I found a way to batch edit multiple cells using a free program AutoHotkey (http://www.autohotkey.com)

This is the code I wrote for AutoHotkey's "AutoHotkey.ahk" file (the default one) so I can strip ownership from multiple items in cells (so that I can have item ownership handled by the cell's properties, and not the item's properties)

It would not be difficult to rewrite this script to do a variety of things for batch editing items. Note that:
* I used absolute coordinates. Depending on the size of your monitor and what you want to click on, your coordinates will be different. A tool is included with AutoHotkey to determine what coordinates your mouse is at.
* You would obviously set the loop number a lot higher, I typically use "40" so I can strip 40 rows with one keypress
* Sleep statements are really important to have, because the GUI in the construction set is not as quick as the script

; this script (Ctrl+w) removes ownership for the object currently under the mouse cursor and moves down the "Cell View" list according to the loop number^w::				; sets the shortcut to control+w and begins scriptCoordMode, Mouse, Screen 	; tells the app to use absolute screen coordinates, not coordinates relative to the active windowMouseGetpos, varX, varY 	; sets two variables, recording the original x (varX) and y (varY) coordinatesloop 1 				; tells the script enclosed in brackets below {} to loop a specified number of times.  change the number here accordingly{  CoordMode, Mouse, Screen 	; tells the app to use absolute screen coordinates, not coordinates relative to the active window  Click right 			; right clicks, opens the context menu of an item in the "Cell View" list  Sleep, 100 			; wait 1/10 sec  Click relative 15,35 		; moves the mouse to select "Edit" from context menu  Sleep, 100 			; wait 1/10 sec  Click 617,390 		; clicks "Ownership" tab at the specified absolute coordinates  Sleep, 100 			; wait 1/10 sec  Click 623,447 		; clicks drop-down box for ownership at the specified absolute coordinates  Sleep, 100 			; wait 1/10 sec  Send {Home} 			; goes to top of list i.e. "NONE". if you want to select a certain NPC, you will have to use Send and a letter of the alphabet or something  Sleep, 100 			; wait 1/10 sec  Send {Enter} 			; closes drop-down box with "Enter" key  Send {Enter} 			; closes item properties dialogue with "Enter" key  varY := varY + 17 		; Sets y-coordinate for next item in the "Cell View" list, 17 pixels down in my case, the row size may be different for you  MouseMove %varX%,%varY% 	; Moves the cursor to the next item in the list  Sleep, 100 			; wait 1/10 sec}return 				; ends the script once the loop is completed

Hey,

just this little question... When i put a none-respawning container in a respawning cell (wilderniss) will the container respawn or not? Might sound dumb, but just have to know this
Ty

Fire3lf

It has been my experience that the container will not respawn.

okay ty!

Well, i'm back
I got another small question

Scn AAplusWotwTestamentScriptBegin Onequip	SetStage AplusWOTWQuest 255	player.Moveto AAplusWotwBedMarker	player.removeitem AAplusWotwTestament 1End 

When I read this scroll i'm teleported back to my bed (bedmarker) but my screen starts flashing.(black and in-game vieuw)

I have tried using a crystal ball too because i tought it was because of the scroll, but still the same problem.
Anyone knows what is happening here?

thanks
fire3lf

The WIKI says MoveTo acts as a return.
My feeling is that it crashes the script and the engine tries the script again the next frame, causing what you experienced.

Try adding a condition that prevents the script from running two frames in a row.

use an activator ! an item that movesto the PC while in PC inventory won't do

Scn AAplusWotwTestamentScriptBegin Onequip	SetStage AplusWOTWQuest 255activate myacivator ; work out the detailsEnd MyActvtrSCRBegin onacivate	player.removeitem AAplusWotwTestament 1	player.Moveto AAplusWotwBedMarkerend

IIRC

I try that! thanks!

EDIT: i tried another way, just putting a switch and the PC can only activate it when he did evrything. I wasn't able to activate the activator trough script (yup i'm a noob ) But it works so still thanks!

This happens every once in a while lately and I wonder if anyone has a clue of what may be causing it:

I load a clean save and, after a few seconds, my quests kick in.
About the same time, the game quicjly shows the save menu and saves over my most recent save (!!), destroying it and creating a new save with the same serial number.

It just happened and I repeated the same process 4 or 5 times, but it did not happen again. Then it happened twice in a row.

Would appreciate any comments you may have on the matter.

That is just crazy !
There must be something in your quest scripts ???
:wacko:

Well, it was (in a sense):
I have a " DisableControl 6" in my initialization script and, believe it or not, it causes "IsKeyPressed2 0" to return true for all scripts that still run on that frame. Not " DisableControl 4" or "DisableControl 7". Just "DisableControl 6".

I happens that I use a shortcut keys mod and I had no key associated to "Overwrite the last save", therefore it was checking the keycode 0 with IsKeyPressed2, which, due to this glitch, returned true on that frame and the shortcut keys mod did its stuff and re-saved the game over my most recent save.

This happens only with OBSE v20 beta. And, of course, being a Beta, it is subject to these glitches. I've reported the issue to the OBSE team.

How do you script a quest stage to occur when you enter a certain cell.

I would set up a trigger zone just inside the point of entry and attach the following script:

scn QuestUpdateTrigZoneScriptShort DoOnceBegin OnTrigger Player If DoOnce == 0  SetStage QuestID StageIndex  Set DoOnce to 1 EndifEnd

I "had an idea" for IF statements that I don't know if it really works. I was building them like this:

If whatever == 0 && whateverelse == 0 &&...

But for two things that must be the same for the statement to fire, could it be written like:

If (whatever == whateverelse == 0) &&...

and still work?

Nvm, figured it out.