races interbreeding

Post » Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:12 am

So i was having a discussion with a buddy. Does anyone know if the different races can breed amongst each other and create half-breeds?
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:03 pm

This is probably more applicable to the lore section.

But it appears they can. Bretons are the result of cross breeding (Nords and Aldmer).

Also there are several mixed race married (or unmarried) couples. Even elves and humans -- which tends to be frowned upon by others.

For example, in Anvil Heinrich Oaken-Hull (Nord) is married to Hasathil (Bosmer) and people say:

"The shipmaster, Heinrich Oaken-Hull, has a wood elf for a wife. I'd rather sleep with my horse."

Apparently less objectionable is Alberic (Breton) and Carmen (Redguard) Litte in Chorrol (maybe less objectionable because it's not a human-elf thing)
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:15 pm

forgot about the lore section heh thx for the reply
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:59 pm

Elves and humans, yes. There's some official writing that theorizes that Khajiits have interbred with wood elves. I don't think there's any current evidence that Argonians can interbreed with the other races. I don't kinow about orcs either.

Mara
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:42 pm

Children of such a union will bear the same racial appearance as their mother, but may carry various traits from their father. (Dunmer father + Breton mother = Breton child with a variety of Dunmer traits).
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Post » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:27 am

Here you go: http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/notesracial.shtml
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 4:26 pm

Mer-to-mer and human-to-human interracial marriages seem more easily accepted than the alternatives. Even so, it doesn't seem as bad in Cyrodiil as it is in Morrowind.
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Post » Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:54 am

Yes it's very much possible but depending on the race and the location it can be difficult and I believe that Argonians and Khajiits have very hard to give birth to another races child, correct?

And in the universe of the Elder Scrolls the mothers genes are dominant.
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:00 pm

Pretty sure the Grey Prince is half Orc. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:39 pm

Pretty sure the Grey Prince is half Orc. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Half-Orc, Half-Imperial, Half-Vampire.

Wait a minute!
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 7:29 pm

Half-Orc, Half-Imperial, Half-Vampire.

Wait a minute!


Being a person and a half explains the whole invincible Grand Champion thing. I mean, 1 vs 1.5 is not fair!

Anyway, Grey Prince is a fine IG example of interbreed. Half-Orc, taking racial looks from his mother
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Post » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:18 am

Barenziah did it with a Khajiit. His [censored] had barbs on it. still, no child.
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:20 pm

Reptiles being so different from mammals, I'm in the camp of those who think Argonians are the only race that can't interbreed.
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Post » Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:53 am

Reptiles being so different from mammals, I'm in the camp of those who think Argonians are the only race that can't interbreed.
But it would be an interesting sight, wouldn't it?
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Post » Sun Jan 16, 2011 8:09 am

Half breeds seem to be, by in large, rare and the case of the bretons seem to come from many generations of interbreeding. Children usually take on the race of the mother, while still being able to have subtle traits from their dad.
EX: You mom is a nord, and your dad is a dunmer. You are going to look like a nord, but you may be slightly more agile and adept to bows and magic. Oh, and you won't be blue/gray/w.e, nor have elf ears.

As far as we know though, the argonians are the only race that can't have children with the other races.
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 6:22 pm

Here you go: http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/notesracial.shtml


Oh good grief. The arrogance of that document is unbelievable! Someone doesn't care much for Argonians, or Orcs!
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:26 pm

Half-Orc, Half-Imperial, Half-Vampire.

Wait a minute!
How do you be half diseased? STD or something? :P
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 11:55 pm

Oh yeah.
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:22 pm

I don't see why they wouldn't able to.
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Post » Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:41 am

Pretty sure the Grey Prince is half Orc. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Well, Orcs are Mer. That could mean unions even with changed mers like Orsimer and Khajites are possible.
The Argonians are still right out, though.


Half breeds seem to be, by in large, rare and the case of the bretons seem to come from many generations of interbreeding. Children usually take on the race of the mother, while still being able to have subtle traits from their dad.
EX: You mom is a nord, and your dad is a dunmer. You are going to look like a nord, but you may be slightly more agile and adept to bows and magic. Oh, and you won't be blue/gray/w.e, nor have elf ears.

Oh, I dunno. A minor greyish teint might still be there. I dont think it needs to be that subtle...
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 9:46 pm

i remember there being a book on the subject in game, i believe it said its possible, but frowned upon. it mentioned that the offspring will look more like the mother species but take on characteristics of the father species. a example would be the offspring of a female breton and male dark elf. It would look like a breton but would possibly have red eyes or a slimmer taller appearance. i think the book was called, "notes on racial phylogeny"
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EX: You mom is a nord, and your dad is a dunmer. You are going to look like a nord, but you may be slightly more agile and adept to bows and magic. Oh, and you won't be blue/gray/w.e, nor have elf ears.

Actually, I think you got it backward... You would be a Nord as far as skills and racial affinities go, but your appearance will be distinct. For example, you may have red eyes, or eyes flecked with red, darker and greyer skin, slightly pointed ears, etc...

And as far as the Khajiit thing goes... I believe that because they are tied to the moon, its impossible to tell any difference between half-khajiit and their mother's race, because I'm guessing a non-khajiit mother would inherit the Ohmes traits (which are essentially like Bosmer traits), while Khajiit-mothered offspring would develop the form governed by the phase of the moon. And even though Therris was infertile with Barenziah, their activities apparently screwed up her reproductive system, causing it to mature sooner than usual... There was almost a half-Imperial/half-dunmer running around...
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 8:28 pm

No he has it just right. "Generally the offspring bear the racial traits of the mother, though some traces of the father's race may also be present." - http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/notesracial.shtml

And I'd leave out stats and skillpoints. Those are game mechanics, not inheritable traits.
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Post » Sat Jan 15, 2011 5:53 pm

No he has it just right. "Generally the offspring bear the racial traits of the mother, though some traces of the father's race may also be present." - http://www.imperial-library.info/mwbooks/notesracial.shtml

And I'd leave out stats and skillpoints. Those are game mechanics, not inheritable traits.

Stats and certain skillpoints, though game mechanics, are representative of inheritable traits. Orcs are naturally stronger than the other races, Nords are naturally tougher. I also believe that even without training, Redguards have a natural talent with arms. And no race will ever jump higher than a Khajiit, or swim faster than an Argonian. Elves have a greater affinity for magic than non-mer.

And with the example I quoted, again, I say he got it backward. What he listed as traits are the racially-powered ones, while saying he wouldn't recieve minor physical traits. I said he wouldn't get those race-based traits, and would get the father's physical ones, like dusky skin and red-tinted eyes.
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Post » Sun Jan 16, 2011 6:00 am

Elves and humans, yes. There's some official writing that theorizes that Khajiits have interbred with wood elves. I don't think there's any current evidence that Argonians can interbreed with the other races. I don't kinow about orcs either.

Mara

Orcs, yes: the Gray Prince, his father a vampire, but not an orcrish one.

I'm almost certain Argonians can mate with, but not so clear on the breeding aspect. I would say yes, but I can't back it up with anything other than hearsay in-game.

Stats and certain skillpoints, though game mechanics, are representative of inheritable traits. Orcs are naturally stronger than the other races, Nords are naturally tougher. I also believe that even without training, Redguards have a natural talent with arms. And no race will ever jump higher than a Khajiit, or swim faster than an Argonian. Elves have a greater affinity for magic than non-mer.

And with the example I quoted, again, I say he got it backward. What he listed as traits are the racially-powered ones, while saying he wouldn't recieve minor physical traits. I said he wouldn't get those race-based traits, and would get the father's physical ones, like dusky skin and red-tinted eyes.


I would agree with Scow on the arrangement of the traits. I would disagree with his first statement, however: while races have predispositions towards certains paths and skills, a khajiit who goes warrior and does not train his stealth and acrobatics skills could be outdone by an orc who went acrobat. It's all about which muscles you train, in the end, and which skills you use. A khajiit acrobat would certainly outclass an orcrish one, yes, but not all khajiit would do so. To assume so would completely invalidate the point of the gameplay systems, for starters. Also, it just makes sense that way.
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