Racial Lifespans

Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:08 am

I do not understand how long each race lives. I assume that Redguards, Imperials and Nords live a normal human lifespan but what of the beast races and elves? Can every race extend their lifespan with magic? Do Bretons live longer than other humans because of their heritage?
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Rebecca Dosch
 
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 3:01 pm

I suppose if they have the power anyone can make themselves live longer, of course they could always come back as ghosts...
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Amie Mccubbing
 
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:17 am

Using magic to increase your lifespan is called "Chronomancy", but I haven't heard of it in the ES universe.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:09 pm

Elves are long lived, the Altmer on the Summersets likely more so than others, thanks to their relative seclusion and selective breeding. Elves, beasts and men can alter their ages through necromancy or esoteric pacts with Daedra, alchemy, or maybe by intensive magicka use. This area pretty much follows the lore you would expect to find in other fantasy settings. Divath Fyr is supposedly the longest lived elf on Tamriel, over four thousand years old (Nirn is roughly 6000, by the http://www.imperial-library.info/history/ reckoning). I remember reading the Bretons and Orcs are shorter lived than most races, but I could be wrong.

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 6:30 pm

Using magic to increase your lifespan is called "Chronomancy", but I haven't heard of it in the ES universe.


http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Earil
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:10 pm

Using magic to increase your lifespan is called "Chronomancy", but I haven't heard of it in the ES universe.


It's called Walking. Look up Phynaster. :)
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:46 pm

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Shivering:Earil

forgive me for being ignorant, but what does he have to do with chronomancy? I only learned he's a shopkeep who hates thieves...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:53 pm

forgive me for being ignorant, but what does he have to do with chronomancy? I only learned he's a shopkeep who hates thieves...


Did you not read the page or talk to him? It says he is a practitioner of chronomancy and he talks about chronomancy when you first meet him...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:28 pm

Longest Living: Telvanni Mage-Lords
Shortest Living: Orcs (Had that curse thrown onto them instead of the Nords)

Out of the humans, Bretons live the longest, thanks to their elven blood. If you discount the Telvanni, Altmer live the longest thanks to Phynaster teaching them how to walk better.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 11:49 pm

I actually find a lot of fault with the Tolkien-esque lifespans, elves living for 100's of years...it's just..."unrealisitic"

Yes, I know. Don't tell me there's magic, and lizard people, and elves to begin with. But they live in a world with gravity and geography etc etc it's meant to be based in reality.

I would much prefer elves to live anyway from 100-150 years. And of course, they also wouldn't age as rapidly as humans, so even at 70 they might look idk, 45.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 7:27 pm

I actually find a lot of fault with the Tolkien-esque lifespans, elves living for 100's of years...it's just..."unrealisitic"

Yes, I know. Don't tell me there's magic, and lizard people, and elves to begin with. But they live in a world with gravity and geography etc etc it's meant to be based in reality.

I would much prefer elves to live anyway from 100-150 years. And of course, they also wouldn't age as rapidly as humans, so even at 70 they might look idk, 45.


It's fantasy and that is how fantasy is... but you do not they aren't like Tolkien elves because Tolkien elves are immortal unless someone kills them.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 3:11 am

I'm fairly certain the rule of thumb is the human races live normal lives excluding the Breton, who would probably max their average somewhere between seventy to ninety. Orcs only live to fifty tops, and wood and dark elves usually go to about two hundred. The altmer would be somewhere over that, maybe as high as three hundred. And of course, any race can extend their lifespan with any number of different types of magic. And we never really found out if he was a chronomancer, as there is no real time magic in Tes.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 1:28 am

I thought Baladas Demnavi was older than Davydath Fyr
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 2:37 am

I thought Baladas Demnavi was older than Davydath Fyr

Divayth Fyr is as old, maybe even older, than Sotha Sil.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 2:38 pm

Did you not read the page or talk to him? It says he is a practitioner of chronomancy and he talks about chronomancy when you first meet him...

no, I skimed the page, and I've never played SI, just Oblivion.

Bretons live the longest, thanks to their elven blood

See, I could have sworn they lived shorter lives because of their oil and water blood, but maybe they just age more rapidly? I would expect many Bretons to be indistingushable from Altmer to the human observer. [wrestles his supressed nazi-elven personality]

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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:07 pm

no, I skimed the page, and I've never played SI, just Oblivion.


That guy kinda creeped me out the first time I met him personally just the way he looked at me I wanted to draw my sword and slice off his head but since I was a Knight I couldnt do that kind of thing :P
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:41 pm

Well it is a good thing that elves don't live too much longer than humans. I don't really like elves other than Altmer who I think are tolerable. And of course, never seen a Maomer.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 9:50 pm

Longest Living: Telvanni Mage-Lords
Shortest Living: Orcs (Had that curse thrown onto them instead of the Nords)

Out of the humans, Bretons live the longest, thanks to their elven blood. If you discount the Telvanni, Altmer live the longest thanks to Phynaster teaching them how to walk better.


The only known statement about the age of Bretons is not consistent with the belief that their elven blood grants them a longer lifespan. If the words in Brief History of the Empire are taken at face value, Bretons do not live particularly long and do not age well.

"When Cassynder assumed the throne upon the death of his mother, he was already middle-aged. Only half Elven, he aged like a Breton. In fact, he had left the rule of Wayrest to his half-brother Uriel due to poor health. Nevertheless, as the only true blood relation of Pelagius and thus Tiber, he was pressed into accepting the throne. To no one's surprise, the Emperor Cassynder's reign did not last long. In two years he joined his predecessors in eternal slumber."

Cassynder cannot have been more than fifty-nine, and probably a few years less. It is important that the historian writes "aged like a Breton", because it indicates that his early decrepitude is generally known to be characteristic of Bretons.

I cannot conclude that Bretons have a long lifespan; on the contrary, they have a short lifespan as Men go, and they are known neither for living long nor being hearty in old age.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 8:20 pm

That's what I thought, they do deteriorate more rapidly. If their man/mer blood doesn't mingle so well (like water and oil, really), I wonder if most "Bretons" aren't just meager-er "humans" and "elves". Not to say a mother would give birth to an elf and a man, but that one family would more likely sire men than another which would sire elves. Just a thought...
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 4:10 pm

Cassynder cannot have been more than fifty-nine, and probably a few years less. It is important that the historian writes "aged like a Breton", because it indicates that his early decrepitude is generally known to be characteristic of Bretons.

I cannot conclude that Bretons have a long lifespan; on the contrary, they have a short lifespan as Men go, and they are known neither for living long nor being hearty in old age.


Emh. His mum was a Dark Elf, it's to show that by the time she was done, he was already old. While normally, if she was human she'd be dead before he was in his thirties, now she adds another ten-twenty years, and he gets old.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 10:57 am

Divath Fyr is supposedly the longest lived elf on Tamriel, over four thousand years old (Nirn is roughly 6000, by the http://www.imperial-library.info/history/ reckoning). I remember reading the Bretons and Orcs are


What abouit the Tribunal, aren't they almost as old as he?
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 12:03 pm

Divath Fyr is supposedly the longest lived elf on Tamriel, over four thousand years old (Nirn is roughly 6000, by the http://www.imperial-library.info/history/ reckoning). I remember reading the Bretons and Orcs are shorter lived than most races, but I could be wrong.


Fyr is an exception though. Phynaster added a 100 years to the Altmer age and that was significant enough to make him a culture hero. That puts the estimate at 200. Some like Barenziah and Baladas are older. The idea is that Elven lives are more flexible, abstinence of hard manual labor, better healthcare and use of magic seems to lengthen a life span.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 12:34 am

What abouit the Tribunal, aren't they almost as old as he?


They're but they've also tapped the Heart of Lorkhan to increase their lifespan and powers.
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Post » Sat May 28, 2011 1:44 pm

I would much prefer elves to live anyway from 100-150 years


Most do. It's the nobility that can live for hundreds of years, and the wizards especially (they can go well into the thousands).

is mum was a Dark Elf


He would also have been a Dunmer.
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Post » Sun May 29, 2011 3:09 am

Most do. It's the nobility that can live for hundreds of years, and the wizards especially (they can go well into the thousands).



He would also have been a Dunmer.


No he'd be half-dark elf, eg, grey elf. :P
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