Rage Post to Crytek - Not a Troll; Speaking as a Consumer

Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:26 am

Crytek isn't going to fix the game because if we are to believe the sticky post, there some "minor issues"--nowhere do they officially acknowledge flaws in their code, bugs or mistakes. You may think this issue of wording is minor but it is actually a part of their strategy to minimize attention to a product that is incomplete by defining it as something it isn't. This tiny issue of wording is a strong reflection of how Crytek sees and responds to the problem the OP describes--you'll remember the demo prompted the player to press start to play and was ridiculed by players as a means of criticizing the console audience of the game. Crytek's response was to change the word "start button" to "enter" rather than implementing a working PC framework. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.

It is possible that if the game reaches critical mass it may see some more attention a la Bad Company 2 but even that game, despite how mediocre it was, had punkbuster and in general far fewer technical crises. It is highly unlikely Crysis 2 will see more more maps or patches--its likelier to expect some half baked Xbox DLC to migrate to the PC at some point in the summer. After all what incentive do Crytek have to do anything? The game is shipped and consumers are buying a half finished product--there is no long term commitment to server maintenance or support or even patching because in their mind they sell a product while players increasingly expect a service: regular patches and exploit fixes. If you have issues, they go to outsourced illiterates working for EA support--the Crytek studio is probably on holiday or preparing for new projects but certainly not active in a serious way. Expecting a Crysis 2 renaissance is like expecting MW2 to adopt servers and refund players two years after the fact.

As you said, if you set out to make a progression based shooter but making changes in the change equipment screen don't do anything requiring you to leave the lobby after every round to save your stats, its clear the game was rushed and Crytek has compromised its standards and work ethic. Save yourself a headache and uninstall it.

As far as the preorder issue, in the future you just have to be smarter. Don't be fooled by preorder "bonuses," as the entire model for preorder seems like it originates in response to reselling of console games and publishers trying to recover perceived losses. If a guy buys Crysis 2 new for Xbox, he'll input the code, play for a week and return it to gamestop who will sell it used for something under retail price. The used preorder code allows EA to charge 5 or 10 dollars to gain access to that "missing" content. Bottom line is these "bonuses" are just mundane features in the game and the whole thing is a ruse to trick console gamers--I can't think of any instance were buying in early gave you some gamebreaking or meaningful advantage.

There are two other notable FPS games coming out this year--Brink and MW3. MW3 will almost certainly launch like Crysis 2, maybe Brink will as well, but ultimately make sure you do your research and avoid making the same mistake you and I made here.
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:34 am

Agree with OP. All in point. Yes, i complete SP part of the game, but... 4 in 5 time when i have free time for playing Crysis 2 MP i just can't log in...lol

And seriusly. In 2011 sell game on PC what do not support DX11...
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 5:39 pm

Crytek isn't going to fix the game because if we are to believe the sticky post, there some "minor issues"--nowhere do they officially acknowledge flaws in their code, bugs or mistakes. You may think this issue of wording is minor but it is actually a part of their strategy to minimize attention to a product that is incomplete by defining it as something it isn't. This tiny issue of wording is a strong reflection of how Crytek sees and responds to the problem the OP describes--you'll remember the demo prompted the player to press start to play and was ridiculed by players as a means of criticizing the console audience of the game. Crytek's response was to change the word "start button" to "enter" rather than implementing a working PC framework. Talk about missing the forest for the trees.

It is possible that if the game reaches critical mass it may see some more attention a la Bad Company 2 but even that game, despite how mediocre it was, had punkbuster and in general far fewer technical crises. It is highly unlikely Crysis 2 will see more more maps or patches--its likelier to expect some half baked Xbox DLC to migrate to the PC at some point in the summer. After all what incentive do Crytek have to do anything? The game is shipped and consumers are buying a half finished product--there is no long term commitment to server maintenance or support or even patching because in their mind they sell a product while players increasingly expect a service: regular patches and exploit fixes. If you have issues, they go to outsourced illiterates working for EA support--the Crytek studio is probably on holiday or preparing for new projects but certainly not active in a serious way. Expecting a Crysis 2 renaissance is like expecting MW2 to adopt servers and refund players two years after the fact.

As you said, if you set out to make a progression based shooter but making changes in the change equipment screen don't do anything requiring you to leave the lobby after every round to save your stats, its clear the game was rushed and Crytek has compromised its standards and work ethic. Save yourself a headache and uninstall it.

As far as the preorder issue, in the future you just have to be smarter. Don't be fooled by preorder "bonuses," as the entire model for preorder seems like it originates in response to reselling of console games and publishers trying to recover perceived losses. If a guy buys Crysis 2 new for Xbox, he'll input the code, play for a week and return it to gamestop who will sell it used for something under retail price. The used preorder code allows EA to charge 5 or 10 dollars to gain access to that "missing" content. Bottom line is these "bonuses" are just mundane features in the game and the whole thing is a ruse to trick console gamers--I can't think of any instance were buying in early gave you some gamebreaking or meaningful advantage.

There are two other notable FPS games coming out this year--Brink and MW3. MW3 will almost certainly launch like Crysis 2, maybe Brink will as well, but ultimately make sure you do your research and avoid making the same mistake you and I made here.

I fully agree with everything you said here. Especially about the pre-ordering. I already knew (know) all of that. The only reason I decided to do it was because I planned on buying it anyway, and it looked like I was going to be paying the same price either way. So I just decided to get the bonus content since it was available if I just pre-ordered it on Steam. I didn't really get svcked in.

A lot of us will definitely learn from this experience and do more research on brink. However, I trust The Witcher 2's developer, CD Projekt RED, and I plan on buying it anyway, so I think I will go ahead and pre-order that one :) And I'm glad you brought up Brink, as we all may want to be extra-special wary of that launch. It's from a no-so-well-known developer/publisher(well, I haven't heard of them), and it is using a new style of gameplay(the "smart" feature and whatnot). There are likely going to be problems with Multiplayer on that, and problems with how the functions work. I will most likely be the ones sitting back and observing the forums for a couple days on that game; just to see how well the company responds to anything that goes wrong. Who knows, they might be right there, ready to go, because it is their first well-known release and they want to make a good impression. By number 2 they will be like Crytek. Rich and stupid.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 8:35 pm

Agree with OP. All in point. Yes, i complete SP part of the game, but... 4 in 5 time when i have free time for playing Crysis 2 MP i just can't log in...lol

And seriusly. In 2011 sell game on PC what do not support DX11...

The game does support DX11. They just haven't implemented it. They made a large announcement about how they are going to be doing that very soon.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:56 pm

Not thread bashing but you don't expect to sue them. Your case is invalid and it's stupid. Every game that comes out is gonna have problems, they patch it up and we be happy. Enough said.
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 6:55 am

Not thread bashing but you don't expect to sue them. Your case is invalid and it's stupid. Every game that comes out is gonna have problems, they patch it up and we be happy. Enough said.


Agreed I have seen stats boosting and hacking in every game post release for the past 5 years. **** happens attack the hackers not the devs they did'nt create the hacks or distribute them like pcnuttie all we can hope is that Crytek support the game with further patches and at some point correcting the leaderboards.
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:06 am

I'm simply writing this just to vent somewhere relevant to the situation, whether it affects the outcome or not (which it won't). I will also use offensive language to convey these feelings.

At this point, I'm pretty pissed off as a customer. I never owned the original Crysis, nor Warhead. But this does not mean I don't know a TERRIBLY made game when I play one, as FPS games are the only types of games I play... and I do not play consoles; only PC. And by "terrible," I do not mean graphically. I admit that the graphics are gorgeous, even if it's only in DX9 for right now (which I don't mind). By "terrible," I mean the quality of the game overall. It has been almost 3 weeks since the release date. The price was $60 for a new copy on Steam (the running price for new, FUNCTIONAL, games). A lot of us (including myself) bought the game on Steam or from EA's website in time to get the pre-purchase Limited Edition, yet it will not activate on our accounts... STILL. When we do go to play Multiplayer mode, our information does not consistently save and we end up having to play games over, find new servers, restart the game entirely because of "invalid parameter" errors not letting us switch servers, and ultimately waste our time, honestly.

If you're going to level-lock stronger items and abilities, make sure our GOD DAMN information gets SAVED. There is absolutely nothing more that I hate than my progress not being saved and having to do something (or multiple things) over again, when it comes to gaming, as I am a busy college student that also works 20-25 hours a week. So the time I AM able to relax and play video games, I would wish my progress to be recorded.

Also, when you promote "limited edition" bundles that include "limited edition" items that can only be collected by pre-purchasing, I expect to have those God damn items and bonuses when I log in on day 1. Period. I do not wish to troubleshoot my problems for you by spending hours searching the forums and FAQs to see what the **** is going on, just to find out that it isn't possible because you guys didn't quite think everything through before gladly taking my hard-earned money. This economy is a POS, especially here in MICHIGAN, so the money I do spend I tend to spend conservatively. If you see me spending this much on a video game, it's because I thoroughly believe(d) it would be a great and joyful way to pass my down time. Not...this.

In conclusion: FIX YOUR GOD DAMN ****. After 2 and a half weeks past release, this isn't a joke anymore. I, for one, could not give two **** if you are having problems or not with the system. When I pre-pay $60 for a game from a company of your stature (or any company, for that matter...having a higher stature only ups the expectations. You should have already been on your toes for that one), I FULLY expect the game to be functional and playable. Not somewhat-functional and somewhat-playable, where you'll probably lose all the information you just gained that session, or you MAY be able to join a game without a problem that doesn't have to do with your personal internet connection. Until you fix this, I spit on you. And even when(if) you fix this, I still will never pre-purchase another game developed by your company again, no matter how "pretty" it looks. It would have to get some massively great reviews from multiple credible gaming sources, as well as a lot of happy forum-goers, to get me on that bandwagon. Team Fortress 2 is FPS enough to hold me down for now, and I have the Witcher 2 coming up next month. Feel free to give me my money back or make an acceptable multiplayer gameplay experience, seeing as how you wanted to go for that and conveniently charge top dollar for it.

When all is said and done, more is said than done - Should be Crytek's official motto, as they seem to live by it. I calls it as I sees it.

Inb4coolstorybro&fanboys


I'm not ok with that, I apologize but I never had any problem with it crysis 2, I pre order on steam when I got the games and install the code and it works immediately including code LE, so this problem does not affect everyone, he scaffold knowledge for me backup all my work now, any thing save the walk, I is not concerning backup, I'm ok that cons it must be annoying, even when not all scaffold meter on the back of crytek, we have still made a very best fps, just some low res textures that come one can spoil it all, but I'm having a good multiplayer I is not déconection untimely, so everything is better now, thank you crytek
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:04 am

Sorry if someone already said this, but if you are having trouble with your LE code and you are using firefox, try using IE to unlock it. That was my problem, firefox doesnt like the way the page refreshes or refers, one of the two anyway.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:40 pm

Sorry if someone already said this, but if you are having trouble with your LE code and you are using firefox, try using IE to unlock it. That was my problem, firefox doesnt like the way the page refreshes or refers, one of the two anyway.


is false because I is done with firefox 4.0,
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:30 pm

Sorry if someone already said this, but if you are having trouble with your LE code and you are using firefox, try using IE to unlock it. That was my problem, firefox doesnt like the way the page refreshes or refers, one of the two anyway.


is false because I is done with firefox 4.0,


Just like your other comment, this shows that you are very closed-minded, sir. You believe that just because something works fine for you, it automatically works that same exact way for everyone else. The fact is, most everyone did not have a smooth transition into great gameplay, and I know for a fact that you are not having the Multiplayer experience you(all of us) SHOULD be having (even better than you think you're having right now) due to abundance of hackers.

As for IE and Firefox with the LE code, I put the code in both Firefox and Internet Explorer because I am a troubleshooter by nature. Yes, Firefox seemed to work the same exact way as Internet Explorer, so there didn't seem to be a problem. Yet, when I log in to Multiplayer, I have never received the popup notification that says I have been given the LE code bundle items that I was promised. I am not the only one still not able to get this to work.
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:27 am

Not thread bashing but you don't expect to sue them. Your case is invalid and it's stupid. Every game that comes out is gonna have problems, they patch it up and we be happy. Enough said.

Not comment bashing or anything, but can you please direct me to the patches that have actually fixed these things in the past 3 weeks? No you can't, because I got the game in Steam, which updates it automatically with any new patches, as well as tells you what the new patches are on the game's screen, and it says nothing except "WILL have DX11." Do you see my point? They aren't doing what you, yourself, just said they are supposed to do. They are very slow about it, not responsive, and probably will end up failing with the patches anyway.
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:45 am

Agree that losing progress is annoying as hell. It's incredibly disheartening to have played a really good round only to find that all your kills etc counted for nothing.
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:58 am

Completely 100% agree with this topic.

Taking lawsuits aside however...it's completely unacceptable for Crysis 2 to have launched the way it did. The argument that all games nowadays launch with bugs and patches will fix it is invalid.

I mean its one thing for a game to glitch up, but wow, take a few minutes of your time and think about exactly how **** up Crysis 2's post-launch problems were. Just to name a few major ones;

1.Absolutely no anti-cheat; I say absolutely none because for someone to simply edit a file through notepad to hack in multiplayer is ridiculous. It's 2011. How the hell did Crytek oversee this?
2.Pirates able to login with fake serials; seriously Crytek...seriously? This lasted 2 weeks before it was able to get some type of resolution.
3.Nano Catalyst bug; would have been tolerable if it didn't take 2 weeks to fix
4.Cant login to multiplayer; There are people who bought the game on launch which STILL cannot login to MP. How the hell is that acceptable in any way shape or form?
5.Useless LE code; because it's not working anyway
6.Stats constantly resetting; I have had retriever reset, which wasn't too bad. I had my level reset from 12 to 10, which also wasnt to bad. BUT after patch 1.2 and I was level 45, THEN ALL my modules, unlocks, weapons, EVERYTHING reset except my level? Yeah thats total ****!

...and those are just SOME PC issues. I haven't even began to talk about issues on the consoles.

It's one thing to say "it will get fixed by patches eventually", but to say that "its fine all games release buggy nowadays" is just being ludicrous and ignorant. It's consumer which the latter mindset that make companies (like Crytek) think its okay to shaft constumers in the a$$.

FFS Crytek, at least give us a heads up more often on WTF it is you guys are actually doing.

....but when it is all said and done, I have made the grave mistake of purchasing this game. I trusted Crytek and was spit in the face in return. THere goes $60 for something worth $20 tops.

I WILL NEVER MAKE THIS SAME MISTAKE AGAIN...starting with not purchasing anything with the label 'CRYTEK' or 'EA' in it.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 9:59 pm

Have you guys contacted your lawyers yet? How's the lawsuit coming along? Lol

You guys have made me see the light. I think I'll call my $100 per hour lawyer so I can get a $60 refund........ Derp!
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:42 pm

Another one of these threads. Maybe take the liberty in trying to understand WHY things are a bit messed up and appreciate that most of these things have been fixed and that more things are currently being fixed.

It's a different story if all this was Crytek's fault but it's not. It's EA. I explained it too many times on the forums, research it yourself to know how.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:41 pm

I get a kick out of the people posting here DEFENDING Crytek and EA. They get handed this POS game with their money and defend the people who did it to them.

Man, they sure did do a good job of brainwashing some people into thinking it is user error. Gotta give 'em that.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:10 pm

I get a kick out of the people posting here DEFENDING Crytek and EA. They get handed this POS game with their money and defend the people who did it to them.

Man, they sure did do a good job of brainwashing some people into thinking it is user error. Gotta give 'em that.
Ignoring the rest of your post. Where and when have people defended EA? They are the reason the PC market is focused on quantity of sales instead of quantity of happy consumers.
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:22 am

I haven't played that much, since I got exams these days. However, the problems mentioned here are ridiculous and should have been ironed out a long time ago. I haven't experienced any of them, so I can't say much, but I know for a fact that EA/Crytek have been pretty silent. This ain't the transparency we want to see.

While I found gameplay to be very solid, I cannot stand the amount of support they've given us. I guess it's somewhat a widespread practice (e.g. Valve on Half Life 2 Ep 3, Microsoft on Windows Phone 7 updates, 2K Games on Bioshock 2 PC DLCs) but bugs need to be fixed. DX11 is a feature we'd all like to see, but bugfixes are important too. Fix bugs first with a separate patch so you don't have to make us wait for that one patch.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:11 pm

I get a kick out of the people posting here DEFENDING Crytek and EA. They get handed this POS game with their money and defend the people who did it to them.

Man, they sure did do a good job of brainwashing some people into thinking it is user error. Gotta give 'em that.
Ignoring the rest of your post. Where and when have people defended EA? They are the reason the PC market is focused on quantity of sales instead of quantity of happy consumers.


There are multiple people around the forum doing it. Oh, and there's also this (see below) from the guy right above my last post. While reading it, keep in mind that I just went in-game to see if anything has been fixed, and nothing at all has been fixed since last time. I still receive the same errors as the last time I logged in, and I still can hardly play the game.

Another one of these threads. Maybe take the liberty in trying to understand WHY things are a bit messed up and appreciate that most of these things have been fixed and that more things are currently being fixed.


And in response to you, SilentPhenomed, I do not take the liberty of trying to understand why these problems are as they are because, at this point, I simply do not care. All I want is for my game to function. That is it. I do not care about the technicalities of it anymore. If it just happened, sure, why not? It's knowledge. But there is no way I'd understand why all of these problems are occuring, and I already know there are no fixes for them, as I have searched. So why bother?
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 10:31 pm

You guys have to remember that this might not even affect EA much if at all, its still a big success on the consoles, the PC community is impatient (fyi not a console gamer, just a pc gamer like you.), and even if Crysis 2 was a failure to most, it still sold. What they possibly lost on Crysis 2 will no doubt be recovered by the release of Battlefield 3, Portal 2 (although I think people prefer to just buy from Steam instead), Mass Effect 3 (I think), and many other games coming out soon. I wouldn't really be surprised (although I would be saddened) if they didn't make Crysis 3 for the PC and/or any dlc available on the pc due to the impatient people.
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 2:35 am

Ok offtopic here,do you guys think that thiw game works better under WinXP or its the same crap,and would i gain any fps in xp.
Right now im running in win 7.I also had problems with my copy of crysis 2,multiplayer vise offcourse.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 7:18 pm

I don't believe EA are acting in the consumers interests, but i'm not unhappy with the game either.
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Post » Thu Mar 31, 2011 3:13 am

LOL AT lawsuits over a video game. I must be playing a completely different game than you nut jobs. It's fraud!! Clearly you don't know the definition of the word fraud.

Fraud: Wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.

Well, Crytek mislead us, deceived us, avoided us, and outright lied to us (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/108709-Crysis-2-Is-a-PC-Game-First-Console-Game-Second-Claims-Crytek).

And they did it for their financial gain, because if they told us the twisted truth about what they were planning nobody would have bought it.

They irony is that with the CryEngine 3 it's actually HARDER to lower the texture quality and disable console commands etc.
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Post » Wed Mar 30, 2011 6:34 pm

Wasn't aware Codemasters made Crysis 2...
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